Ticket Prices through the Years...

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  • hopethatuchoke
    hopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    Corduroyboy wrote:
    Bottom line is if you don't like the ticket prices, then don't pay and don't go. It's fairly simple.


    No it's really not that simple.
  • Corduroyboy
    Corduroyboy Posts: 1,256
    hopethatuchoke wrote:
    No it's really not that simple.


    Explain to me how. It doesn't take an economist to figure this out. If one doesn't like the price of something and feel it's too high, then don't buy it. Explain to me the complexity of that.
  • Smellyman2
    Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    The two biggest factors that cause ticket prices to go up is venue booking and fuel. Both of those have skyrocketed.
  • Mahone
    Mahone Posts: 62
    BUSH-lager wrote:
    I half-heart the people who say "Yeah, it's a big increase, but look at all the money they left on the table in the 90's!!" You mean, when they stood for reasonably priced tickets?
    Think about it.

    Agreed. They had two of the biggest selling albums of the 90's, and thier first album didn't do too bad, either (12 times platinum?). they signed a very rich contract with Epic after their initial success. It's safe to say that for the first half of the '90s they were probably the best selling rock act, toured to mostly sold out crowds for 18 months straight, toured relentlessly until the end of 1995, then kind of dropped off the face of the earth due to their refusal to make a music video or play Ticketmaster venues. I'd say they made out pretty well in the 90's.
    4.6.94 Springfield 4.12.94 Boston III (Orpheum) 10.2.96 Hartford 9.16.98 Mansfield II 8.29.00 Mansfield I 7.11.03 Mansfield III 9.29.04 Boston II 5.24.06 Boston I 6.30.08 Mansfield II
  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Corduroyboy wrote:
    Bottom line is if you don't like the ticket prices, then don't pay and don't go. It's fairly simple.
    Well this sure is a valid point in this debate...

    Look - go find stats to show inflation is 344% from 94 to 2008 and I'll agree with you. Problem is you won't.

    Again, I'm not saying their prices are too high - they are what they are. I'm just saying people who blindly agree with every word Pearl Jam says and every action they do... well thats just sad.

    The music industry is changing and that's fine and well - just please, please don't say its because of gas and food increases because the bottom line is that a jump from $2.50 to $3.50 in gas does not mean PJ needs to go up $12 per ticket ($240,000 per 20K at a show). If they're doing it because they don't want to play as many shows and they need to pay the bills so be it - they've earned that right. Just don't tell me its in-line with the world's increases in price.
  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Corduroyboy wrote:
    Explain to me how. It doesn't take an economist to figure this out. If one doesn't like the price of something and feel it's too high, then don't buy it. Explain to me the complexity of that.
    You are correct there, but that's not really what the thread is about.

    You might as well post in every thread about anything 'if you don't like it then don't XYZ.' It's about as useful as that post was here.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Look, I am not saying the guys don't deserve to be rich. I'm not saying they owe me anything. All I'm asking is that you open your eyes people. If you can't see that the band has made some seriously contradictory decisions over the past years that are solely money driven, then you really are helplessly blinded.

    Pearl Jam is still great, but this isn't 1994 anymore.

    Can you imagine Eddie in 1994 agreeing to make official bootleg's available in download format only? Hell, he bitched about cd's then! But guess what, it's cost effective!

    I think you might be stuck in 1994. Yes, the fought for low ticket prices in 1994. That was 14 years ago.

    Have any of your priorities changed in the past 14 years? Because mine have.

    People who seem to have the biggest problem with ticket prices seem to be the people who associate PJ with the Ticketmaster flap. In 1994.

    When your audience is a bunch of kids, it makes sense to keep your ticket prices low. But I think most bands count on those kids growing up, getting actual jobs and being able to afford a higher priced ticket.

    Look at Petty, Springsteen, the Who, the Stones, et al ... when your audience grows up, your ticket prices do, too.

    I don't get people who think PJ should play $20 shows just because that's what they did back in the day.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Mahone
    Mahone Posts: 62
    Corduroyboy wrote:
    Explain to me how. It doesn't take an economist to figure this out. If one doesn't like the price of something and feel it's too high, then don't buy it. Explain to me the complexity of that.

    I don't like the price of gas, but I have to pay it, right?
    4.6.94 Springfield 4.12.94 Boston III (Orpheum) 10.2.96 Hartford 9.16.98 Mansfield II 8.29.00 Mansfield I 7.11.03 Mansfield III 9.29.04 Boston II 5.24.06 Boston I 6.30.08 Mansfield II
  • Smellyman2
    Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    Mahone wrote:
    I don't like the price of gas, but I have to pay it, right?

    No
  • Corduroyboy
    Corduroyboy Posts: 1,256
    drsluggo wrote:
    You are correct there, but that's not really what the thread is about.

    You might as well post in every thread about anything 'if you don't like it then don't XYZ.' It's about as useful as that post was here.


    You're absolutely right. As I re-read the first post, Mahone was simply pointing out the increase in ticket prices throughout the years. No doubt it becomes an issue to see the prices of everything we buy go throug the roof, especially Pearl Jam tickets.
  • vedder_soup
    vedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    we have been through this whole ticket thing a million time here!!!
    stop making threads about it!

    get to shows outside the US and you will see how cheap your ticket prices are!
    2003 - Sydney x3,
    2006 - Reading Festival,
    2007 - Katowice, London, Nijmegen, Rock Werchter,
    2008 - MSG x2, Hartford, Mansfield x2, Beacon Theater,
    2009 - Melbourne, Sydney,
    2010 - I watched it go to fire!
    2011 - EV Brisbane x3, Newcastle, Sydney x3,
    2012 - Manchester x 2, Amsterdam x2, Prague, Berlin x2, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen,
    2014 - Sydney, EV Sydney x3

    I wave to all my Friends... Yeah!
  • Mahone
    Mahone Posts: 62
    slightofjeff wrote:
    I don't get people who think PJ should play $20 shows just because that's what they did back in the day.

    I don't think I heard a single person say they think ticket prices should still be $20. I'm saying, the price has grown exponentially over the past 5 years, from $38 to $62 ($24). The price jump from the 6 years from 1994 to 2000 was $12.
    4.6.94 Springfield 4.12.94 Boston III (Orpheum) 10.2.96 Hartford 9.16.98 Mansfield II 8.29.00 Mansfield I 7.11.03 Mansfield III 9.29.04 Boston II 5.24.06 Boston I 6.30.08 Mansfield II
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Mahone wrote:
    I don't think I heard a single person say they think ticket prices should still be $20. I'm saying, the price has grown exponentially over the past 5 years, from $38 to $62 ($24). The price jump from the 6 years from 1994 to 2000 was $12.

    What should ticket prices be?

    Well, whatever people will pay.

    If they keep selling out arenas at these prices, that's what they will be.

    What I'm saying is, if you're expecting the "fuck Ticketmaster" Pearl Jam in 2008, you're just being naive.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Corduroyboy
    Corduroyboy Posts: 1,256
    Mahone wrote:
    I don't think I heard a single person say they think ticket prices should still be $20. I'm saying, the price has grown exponentially over the past 5 years, from $38 to $62 ($24). The price jump from the 6 years from 1994 to 2000 was $12.


    Just as long as it doesn't turn into the Rolling Stone's $300+ a ticket BS, we'll be OK.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Corduroyboy wrote:
    Just as long as it doesn't turn into the Rolling Stone's $300+ a ticket BS, we'll be OK.

    If PJ are still playing at age 70, I'm sure we'll be in that ballpark.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • walkthamile
    walkthamile Posts: 349
    Mahone wrote:
    I don't think the band is trying to rake in the money or get rich by touring, the industry has changed. But honestly, $42 for lawn tickets is a little high. Two other shows at the same venue I want to go to, Tom Petty and STP, lawn tickets to both of those shows are under $30. And when the fucking Jonas Brothers are getting $80 PLUS fees, I'm glad Pearl Jam is still my favorite band. I wasn't necessarily complaining when I made the post, I was just thinking about it (and showing that 14 years ago, Ticketmaster fees were a reasonable $1.80!!) and drew a comparison.

    Well Newsflash buddy, while Tom Petty is a legendary act he simply cannot afford to make people pay overs for his tickets...he'd be playing to crickets if he did. STP, well they sealed their fate with those last couple of shitty albums they made...they would probably need to give a few tickets away to fill an arena at this point, hence the cheaper tickets!

    Pearl Jam, on the other hand, are hands down one of the best live bands around today. No question. Face it, people need to pay if they want to see quality, and Pearl Jam are clearly one of the best!
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  • hopethatuchoke
    hopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    slightofjeff wrote:
    I don't get people who think PJ should play $20 shows just because that's what they did back in the day.


    I haven't seen a single person asking for $20 tickets.
  • Mahone
    Mahone Posts: 62
    Corduroyboy wrote:
    As I re-read the first post, Mahone was simply pointing out the increase in ticket prices throughout the years.

    I'll be honest, I was complaining a little bit, but mostly because I don't have the money like I did in 2003 when I wouldn't have thought twice about paying $62 for Pearl Jam tickets. Five years later and the equivalent of a divorce, buying a brand new car, paying child support, and moving into a more expensive apartment, I knew I could no longer afford seats, so I went straight for the lawn (the only time I've ever done that, back in 1996 I was on the lawn because that's all that was left when I got my tickets.) I would gladly pay whatever to see this band, but I'm afraid eventually the ticket prices are going to exceed my ticket budget and I won't be able to go to more shows. Hopefully someday I'll have the money to see five shows on one tour, and I would gladly pay it if I could afford it these days and see them every show of this tour. I was complaining, but only slightly, and trying to do it without causing this much of a stir. Sorry.
    4.6.94 Springfield 4.12.94 Boston III (Orpheum) 10.2.96 Hartford 9.16.98 Mansfield II 8.29.00 Mansfield I 7.11.03 Mansfield III 9.29.04 Boston II 5.24.06 Boston I 6.30.08 Mansfield II
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    hopethatuchoke wrote:
    I haven't seen a single person asking for $20 tickets.

    That's been established.

    The number isn't important.

    People expect PJ to undersell themselves ... why exactly? Because of some stance they held in 1994?
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • hiding103006
    hiding103006 Posts: 452
    well because i don't see the band plastered all over tean beat, nor do i see 123048304834032834 screaming teenage girls at shows...

    i'm thinking pearl jam has a pretty solid fan base down, and has for years. i'm pretty sure they're just getting theirs. but what about the politics of it all??? they're getting theirs - wouldn't you???
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