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Ticket Prices through the Years...
4.6.94 - $18.00
4.12.94 - $18.20 ($1.80 service charge)
10.2.96 - ?? (can't find my stub at the moment...)
9.16.98 - $23 ($4.75 service charge, $3.50 venue charge)
8.29.00 - $30 ($7.15 service charge)
7.11.03 - $38 ($6.70/$6.50)
9.29.04 - $45 ($9.60)
5.24.06 - $51 ($10.10)
6.27.08 - $62 ($9.40/$6.00)
7.11.03 - I sat in the open air/reserve seats, I think they were a little cheaper than the covered pavilion, not much, though.
5.24.06 - sat behind the stage, at a discounted price.
4.12.94 - $18.20 ($1.80 service charge)
10.2.96 - ?? (can't find my stub at the moment...)
9.16.98 - $23 ($4.75 service charge, $3.50 venue charge)
8.29.00 - $30 ($7.15 service charge)
7.11.03 - $38 ($6.70/$6.50)
9.29.04 - $45 ($9.60)
5.24.06 - $51 ($10.10)
6.27.08 - $62 ($9.40/$6.00)
7.11.03 - I sat in the open air/reserve seats, I think they were a little cheaper than the covered pavilion, not much, though.
5.24.06 - sat behind the stage, at a discounted price.
4.6.94 Springfield 4.12.94 Boston III (Orpheum) 10.2.96 Hartford 9.16.98 Mansfield II 8.29.00 Mansfield I 7.11.03 Mansfield III 9.29.04 Boston II 5.24.06 Boston I 6.30.08 Mansfield II
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oh I get it. the prices have gone up each time. interesting
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
You could do the same comparision with anything... Gas, Food, College, Housing, and so on... did you expect to pay $18 for this tour?
2003-6/1, 10/25
2005-8/29, 9/4
2006-7/2, 7/22, 7/23
2008-4/15(EV solo)
2009-9/21, 9/22, 9/28
2011-9/3, 9/4
2012-9/30
2013-7/19, 11/30
hahahahaha this made me laugh so hard
actually, smaller venues would probably make ticket prices go up ... higher demand.
for the least they could possibly do
If college went up 344% over 14 years (or food)... just think...
That $2.50 gallon of milk would be... $8.60
The $10,000 for college would be... $34,444
Homes and gas do work... no arguing there. But anyone who says that justifies the ticket prices is a little too defensive.
That being said - it is in line with most acts and for the length of show they put on I'm not going to complain...
what you've also got to factor in is that A) PJ left a shitload of money on the table playing those $18 shows back in the day; and
All those CDs you and your buddies rip off the Internet for free? You pay for them at the box office.
for the least they could possibly do
Second - most people would (should) acknowledge that the early day PJ shows were dirt cheap. Even in 94/95 when I started seeing them I could not believe they were ~ $20 when comparable bands like REM, Dave Matthews, etc were $50-$70 easy.
Third... a good number of people here buy all the CDs. Pearl Jam makes a TON off people on this board especially outside of touring. I can't even tell you how much I've spent on:
CDs
Vinyl
Posters
Shirts
Books
Stickers
Postcards
etc
etc
My whole point was that the people on here who lie and say the world has increased in price by the same rate are about as honest as saying you were never in church all of those times when a pastor repeatedly said awful things...
I'm glad someone knows what's going on!!
I half-heart the people who say "Yeah, it's a big increase, but look at all the money they left on the table in the 90's!!" You mean, when they stood for reasonably priced tickets? When they didn't play music to be rich? When they did every single thing with the fans best interest in mind, cuz, ya know, that's why they're here in the first place? When, ummm, you fell in love with this band for the same reasons?
Look, I am not saying the guys don't deserve to be rich. I'm not saying they owe me anything. All I'm asking is that you open your eyes people. If you can't see that the band has made some seriously contradictory decisions over the past years that are solely money driven, then you really are helplessly blinded.
Pearl Jam is still great, but this isn't 1994 anymore.
Can you imagine Eddie in 1994 agreeing to make official bootleg's available in download format only? Hell, he bitched about cd's then! But guess what, it's cost effective!
Can you imagine Pearl Jam playing in Donald Trump's casino's on the Vitalogy tour? Hmmmm, the 2005 PJ sure did... I can't imagine why???
There are countless other examples, but I gotta get to bed. This isn't even my thread, but I've had a few drinks and am tired of all the satan's dick sucking that goes on around here.
They're still a better bargain than most bands, and they're still the best band still making music. Bottom line. But let's not act like they haven't been knocked off their moral pedestal just a little bit. Let's be fair.
Think about it.
cant complain about a band that dumps 100grand off to charity a year ago. and that gives to charity with almost every ticket purchase.
Inflation made ticket prices jump $7.00 from 2003 to 2004? From $45 to $51 in just over a year (and mind you, I had better seats in 2004 than I did in 2006)? The same seat that I paid $23 ten years ago in the same venue costs $62 today. From the band that once fought ticketmaster to keep ticket prices reasonable. In 1993, I bought Nirvana's In Utero for $14.00 from Bradlees, and it was $17 at The Wall (now known as FYE) - In 2007, I bought Eddie Vedder's CD for $12. Inflation doesn't make everything cost more.
I don't think the band is trying to rake in the money or get rich by touring, the industry has changed. But honestly, $42 for lawn tickets is a little high. Two other shows at the same venue I want to go to, Tom Petty and STP, lawn tickets to both of those shows are under $30. And when the fucking Jonas Brothers are getting $80 PLUS fees, I'm glad Pearl Jam is still my favorite band. I wasn't necessarily complaining when I made the post, I was just thinking about it (and showing that 14 years ago, Ticketmaster fees were a reasonable $1.80!!) and drew a comparison.
No, I don't think they've totally lost their way at all. They're not a radically different band, with different causes or anything. And yes, they continue to by all accounts, remain extremely generous to worthy causes.
But the fan has to pay for it more. Like, you know, a normal fan of a rock band. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a big act that didn't do a TON for charity. Difference is, we were spoiled for years by PJ who chose to not make a killing off their fans.
Lately, that has clearly changed. The increases in prices and practices (see my examples above) are grossly out of character. So now they are making the fans pony up.
Again, I can't stress enough how fine I am with this. They put out a tremendous product. I have never felt shortchanged by this band, ever. But a lot of people here need to stop making excuses and acting like they still have the same philosophy that they did when we all first became fans.
They've changed. People need to deal with it. It's not all inflation and fuel costs. And it's not because they have family's and kids to feed either, another laughable explanation I've read.
I just don't know why people need to cling on so hardly to the way things were. This isn't that bad. Take the blinders off is all I'm sayin'.
No it's really not that simple.
Explain to me how. It doesn't take an economist to figure this out. If one doesn't like the price of something and feel it's too high, then don't buy it. Explain to me the complexity of that.
Agreed. They had two of the biggest selling albums of the 90's, and thier first album didn't do too bad, either (12 times platinum?). they signed a very rich contract with Epic after their initial success. It's safe to say that for the first half of the '90s they were probably the best selling rock act, toured to mostly sold out crowds for 18 months straight, toured relentlessly until the end of 1995, then kind of dropped off the face of the earth due to their refusal to make a music video or play Ticketmaster venues. I'd say they made out pretty well in the 90's.
Look - go find stats to show inflation is 344% from 94 to 2008 and I'll agree with you. Problem is you won't.
Again, I'm not saying their prices are too high - they are what they are. I'm just saying people who blindly agree with every word Pearl Jam says and every action they do... well thats just sad.
The music industry is changing and that's fine and well - just please, please don't say its because of gas and food increases because the bottom line is that a jump from $2.50 to $3.50 in gas does not mean PJ needs to go up $12 per ticket ($240,000 per 20K at a show). If they're doing it because they don't want to play as many shows and they need to pay the bills so be it - they've earned that right. Just don't tell me its in-line with the world's increases in price.
You might as well post in every thread about anything 'if you don't like it then don't XYZ.' It's about as useful as that post was here.
I think you might be stuck in 1994. Yes, the fought for low ticket prices in 1994. That was 14 years ago.
Have any of your priorities changed in the past 14 years? Because mine have.
People who seem to have the biggest problem with ticket prices seem to be the people who associate PJ with the Ticketmaster flap. In 1994.
When your audience is a bunch of kids, it makes sense to keep your ticket prices low. But I think most bands count on those kids growing up, getting actual jobs and being able to afford a higher priced ticket.
Look at Petty, Springsteen, the Who, the Stones, et al ... when your audience grows up, your ticket prices do, too.
I don't get people who think PJ should play $20 shows just because that's what they did back in the day.
for the least they could possibly do
I don't like the price of gas, but I have to pay it, right?
No
You're absolutely right. As I re-read the first post, Mahone was simply pointing out the increase in ticket prices throughout the years. No doubt it becomes an issue to see the prices of everything we buy go throug the roof, especially Pearl Jam tickets.