I don't get people who think PJ should play $20 shows just because that's what they did back in the day.
I don't think I heard a single person say they think ticket prices should still be $20. I'm saying, the price has grown exponentially over the past 5 years, from $38 to $62 ($24). The price jump from the 6 years from 1994 to 2000 was $12.
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I don't think I heard a single person say they think ticket prices should still be $20. I'm saying, the price has grown exponentially over the past 5 years, from $38 to $62 ($24). The price jump from the 6 years from 1994 to 2000 was $12.
What should ticket prices be?
Well, whatever people will pay.
If they keep selling out arenas at these prices, that's what they will be.
What I'm saying is, if you're expecting the "fuck Ticketmaster" Pearl Jam in 2008, you're just being naive.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
I don't think I heard a single person say they think ticket prices should still be $20. I'm saying, the price has grown exponentially over the past 5 years, from $38 to $62 ($24). The price jump from the 6 years from 1994 to 2000 was $12.
Just as long as it doesn't turn into the Rolling Stone's $300+ a ticket BS, we'll be OK.
I don't think the band is trying to rake in the money or get rich by touring, the industry has changed. But honestly, $42 for lawn tickets is a little high. Two other shows at the same venue I want to go to, Tom Petty and STP, lawn tickets to both of those shows are under $30. And when the fucking Jonas Brothers are getting $80 PLUS fees, I'm glad Pearl Jam is still my favorite band. I wasn't necessarily complaining when I made the post, I was just thinking about it (and showing that 14 years ago, Ticketmaster fees were a reasonable $1.80!!) and drew a comparison.
Well Newsflash buddy, while Tom Petty is a legendary act he simply cannot afford to make people pay overs for his tickets...he'd be playing to crickets if he did. STP, well they sealed their fate with those last couple of shitty albums they made...they would probably need to give a few tickets away to fill an arena at this point, hence the cheaper tickets!
Pearl Jam, on the other hand, are hands down one of the best live bands around today. No question. Face it, people need to pay if they want to see quality, and Pearl Jam are clearly one of the best!
As I re-read the first post, Mahone was simply pointing out the increase in ticket prices throughout the years.
I'll be honest, I was complaining a little bit, but mostly because I don't have the money like I did in 2003 when I wouldn't have thought twice about paying $62 for Pearl Jam tickets. Five years later and the equivalent of a divorce, buying a brand new car, paying child support, and moving into a more expensive apartment, I knew I could no longer afford seats, so I went straight for the lawn (the only time I've ever done that, back in 1996 I was on the lawn because that's all that was left when I got my tickets.) I would gladly pay whatever to see this band, but I'm afraid eventually the ticket prices are going to exceed my ticket budget and I won't be able to go to more shows. Hopefully someday I'll have the money to see five shows on one tour, and I would gladly pay it if I could afford it these days and see them every show of this tour. I was complaining, but only slightly, and trying to do it without causing this much of a stir. Sorry.
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well because i don't see the band plastered all over tean beat, nor do i see 123048304834032834 screaming teenage girls at shows...
i'm thinking pearl jam has a pretty solid fan base down, and has for years. i'm pretty sure they're just getting theirs. but what about the politics of it all??? they're getting theirs - wouldn't you???
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People expect PJ to undersell themselves ... why exactly? Because of some stance they held in 1994?
that stance was actually held until 1998, when they dropped their grievance. They wanted to keep ticket prices fair and service charges to just a couple bucks. The fight with ticketmaster had more to do with the money ticketmaster was charging for fees, which has grown by leaps and bounds. They lost their ticketmaster fight, but the cost of the ticket is mostly determined by the band. the cost of tickets has jumped a lot in the last 5 years, and thats all I was pointing out, I never said they should go back to 1994 and only charge the 2008 equivalent of 1994's $20. But at the same time, we're their bread and butter. They're albums certainly aren't selling like they used to (they lost a lot of their audience in 1996, a few years before CD burning technology and album downloading were easily available), and the same core group of people are always going to see them, helping them sell out shows, buying the CDs and bootlegs.
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that stance was actually held until 1998, when they dropped their grievance. They wanted to keep ticket prices fair and service charges to just a couple bucks. The fight with ticketmaster had more to do with the money ticketmaster was charging for fees, which has grown by leaps and bounds. They lost their ticketmaster fight, but the cost of the ticket is mostly determined by the band. the cost of tickets has jumped a lot in the last 5 years, and thats all I was pointing out, I never said they should go back to 1994 and only charge the 2008 equivalent of 1994's $20. But at the same time, we're their bread and butter. They're albums certainly aren't selling like they used to (they lost a lot of their audience in 1996, a few years before CD burning technology and album downloading were easily available), and the same core group of people are always going to see them, helping them sell out shows, buying the CDs and bootlegs.
That's all well and good.
But I'm still missing the argument as to why PJ should sell themselves below market value ...
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
But I'm still missing the argument as to why PJ should sell themselves below market value ...
I never had an argument, I was pointing something out, mostly for pointless reasons.
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Do any of you think that maybe the prices are so high only because this is such a small tour? So they raised the prices to equal it out sorta? Maybe there next big tour the prices will be like $50-60
Do any of you think that maybe the prices are so high only because this is such a small tour? So they raised the prices to equal it out sorta? Maybe there next big tour the prices will be like $50-60
Nah. Prices will never go down. They never do.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
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stop making threads about it!
get to shows outside the US and you will see how cheap your ticket prices are!
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I don't think I heard a single person say they think ticket prices should still be $20. I'm saying, the price has grown exponentially over the past 5 years, from $38 to $62 ($24). The price jump from the 6 years from 1994 to 2000 was $12.
What should ticket prices be?
Well, whatever people will pay.
If they keep selling out arenas at these prices, that's what they will be.
What I'm saying is, if you're expecting the "fuck Ticketmaster" Pearl Jam in 2008, you're just being naive.
for the least they could possibly do
Just as long as it doesn't turn into the Rolling Stone's $300+ a ticket BS, we'll be OK.
If PJ are still playing at age 70, I'm sure we'll be in that ballpark.
for the least they could possibly do
Well Newsflash buddy, while Tom Petty is a legendary act he simply cannot afford to make people pay overs for his tickets...he'd be playing to crickets if he did. STP, well they sealed their fate with those last couple of shitty albums they made...they would probably need to give a few tickets away to fill an arena at this point, hence the cheaper tickets!
Pearl Jam, on the other hand, are hands down one of the best live bands around today. No question. Face it, people need to pay if they want to see quality, and Pearl Jam are clearly one of the best!
I haven't seen a single person asking for $20 tickets.
I'll be honest, I was complaining a little bit, but mostly because I don't have the money like I did in 2003 when I wouldn't have thought twice about paying $62 for Pearl Jam tickets. Five years later and the equivalent of a divorce, buying a brand new car, paying child support, and moving into a more expensive apartment, I knew I could no longer afford seats, so I went straight for the lawn (the only time I've ever done that, back in 1996 I was on the lawn because that's all that was left when I got my tickets.) I would gladly pay whatever to see this band, but I'm afraid eventually the ticket prices are going to exceed my ticket budget and I won't be able to go to more shows. Hopefully someday I'll have the money to see five shows on one tour, and I would gladly pay it if I could afford it these days and see them every show of this tour. I was complaining, but only slightly, and trying to do it without causing this much of a stir. Sorry.
That's been established.
The number isn't important.
People expect PJ to undersell themselves ... why exactly? Because of some stance they held in 1994?
for the least they could possibly do
i'm thinking pearl jam has a pretty solid fan base down, and has for years. i'm pretty sure they're just getting theirs. but what about the politics of it all??? they're getting theirs - wouldn't you???
So, you paid $0.75 a gallon for gas in 1992? No? That's what I thought.
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that stance was actually held until 1998, when they dropped their grievance. They wanted to keep ticket prices fair and service charges to just a couple bucks. The fight with ticketmaster had more to do with the money ticketmaster was charging for fees, which has grown by leaps and bounds. They lost their ticketmaster fight, but the cost of the ticket is mostly determined by the band. the cost of tickets has jumped a lot in the last 5 years, and thats all I was pointing out, I never said they should go back to 1994 and only charge the 2008 equivalent of 1994's $20. But at the same time, we're their bread and butter. They're albums certainly aren't selling like they used to (they lost a lot of their audience in 1996, a few years before CD burning technology and album downloading were easily available), and the same core group of people are always going to see them, helping them sell out shows, buying the CDs and bootlegs.
That's all well and good.
But I'm still missing the argument as to why PJ should sell themselves below market value ...
for the least they could possibly do
I never had an argument, I was pointing something out, mostly for pointless reasons.
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Nah. Prices will never go down. They never do.
for the least they could possibly do
I hardly think a $50 ticket price would be underselling themselves