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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Rygar wrote:
    I guess Trulli was on the the dry tires also, and their lap times were almost the same (20 seconds slower than everyone else).
    So I hear ;)
    odd though how he only fucked up enough for Hamilton to pass :D I'm guessing there was more behind it but they'll never admit it. Made for great viewing though :D
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    odd though how he only fucked up enough for Hamilton to pass :D I'm guessing there was more behind it but they'll never admit it. Made for great viewing though :D
    I'd say. Lots of people passed Glock at that turn. Hambone passed him on the last turn and finished 5.4 seconds ahead. I was on my feet cheering Vettel on the last two laps ;)
    I feel bad for Massa's family and team for celebrating too soon. He's a classy guy.
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Rygar wrote:
    I'd say. Lots of people passed Glock at that turn. Hambone passed him on the last turn and finished 5.4 seconds ahead. I was on my feet cheering Vettel on the last two laps ;)
    I feel bad for Massa's family and team for celebrating too soon. He's a classy guy.
    He was certainly dignified and I felt very sorry for them celebrating... musta been horrible. If Glock had changed his tyres successfully it would have been very different though. But I guess a lot of F1 is down to fate and luck so we can't really argue that. But, as Eddie Jordan said, there's no way Schumacher woulda let Vettel past him with 2 laps left.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    He was certainly dignified and I felt very sorry for them celebrating... musta been horrible. If Glock had changed his tyres successfully it would have been very different though. But I guess a lot of F1 is down to fate and luck so we can't really argue that. But, as Eddie Jordan said, there's no way Schumacher woulda let Vettel past him with 2 laps left.
    If Glock had changed his tires he never would have been ahead of Hamhead.
  • chime
    chime Posts: 7,839
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    He was certainly dignified and I felt very sorry for them celebrating... musta been horrible. If Glock had changed his tyres successfully it would have been very different though. But I guess a lot of F1 is down to fate and luck so we can't really argue that. But, as Eddie Jordan said, there's no way Schumacher woulda let Vettel past him with 2 laps left.

    According to the McLaren team they told Hamilton not to risk anything fighting Vettel as Vettel was faster but that he should be able to overtake Glock.
    So are we strangers now? Like rock and roll and the radio?
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Rygar wrote:
    If Glock had changed his tires he never would have been ahead of Hamhead.
    It woulda been close but considering hamilton's tyres weren't doing much for him, he COULD have been!
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Chime wrote:
    According to the McLaren team they told Hamilton not to risk anything fighting Vettel as Vettel was faster but that he should be able to overtake Glock.
    I just read that! Very risky though... and if it's true, must have required a lot of patience and been very frustrating for Hamilton with half a mile to go :eek:
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    It woulda been close but considering hamilton's tyres weren't doing much for him, he COULD have been!
    Nah, I think if Glock hadda pitted Hambone would have passed him quite comfortably while he was in the pits.
    4 months, huh?
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    Rygar wrote:
    The Hoff of motorsports?

    exactly!! i've been to his museum/cafe thingy and got to sit in his racing cars :cool:
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    dunkman wrote:
    exactly!! i've been to his museum/cafe thingy and got to sit in his racing cars :cool:
    neat
    I wonder if he's retiring from racing or just going on to rally or something...
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    Rygar wrote:
    neat
    I wonder if he's retiring from racing or just going on to rally or something...

    maybe he'll try LeMans or something... dont think he'll do rally though
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    dunkman wrote:
    maybe he'll try LeMans or something... dont think he'll do rally though
    True, there's no one to run off the road besides yourself in rally :p
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,107
    great race
    exciting way to end the season
    although something rubs me the wrong way about giving the championship to a driver that plays it safe to score points rather than win the race-Massa probably was the best driver this year-as much as I hate to admit it.

    what a final lap though!

    great season all the way around-cant wait for next year and fingers crossed for montreal
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Get_Right wrote:
    great race
    exciting way to end the season
    although something rubs me the wrong way about giving the championship to a driver that plays it safe to score points rather than win the race-Massa probably was the best driver this year-as much as I hate to admit it.

    what a final lap though!

    great season all the way around-cant wait for next year and fingers crossed for montreal
    I read an article about that today, the author argued that F1 should be based on wins, not consistency, as Massa has 6 wins to Hamilton's 5.
    There were 5 drivers would could have competed for the title though, had they been more consistent driving or had a more consistent car throughout the year.
    Can't wait for next year.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Confirmed: Montreal GP lost for 2009.
    Good on 'em for not letting Ecclestone rape them.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Rygar wrote:
    Confirmed: Montreal GP lost for 2009.
    Good on 'em for not letting Ecclestone rape them.

    Ecclestone slammed as Canada GP rescue fails

    ''We cannot meet Mister Ecclestone's unworkable demands''

    Organisers of the axed Canadian Grand Prix have slammed F1 CEO Bernie Ecclestone as 'unreasonable' and 'unrealistic', after their efforts to rescue the race for 2009 failed.

    In a statement and with a press conference on Sunday, they confirmed that Ecclestone turned down a package to reinstate the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve on next year's calendar.

    "The unreasonable demands of Formula One exceeded the taxpayer's ability to pay," Montreal Mayor Gerald Tremblay commented.

    Quebec government minister Raymond Bachand added: "We cannot meet Mister Ecclestone's unworkable demands.

    "Unless he eases his requirements and adopts a different approach, there will be no Grand Prix in Montreal in 2009."

    Bachand also said Ecclestone's multi-million dollar demands were 'unrealistic'.

    In the information released publicly on Sunday, the organisers revealed the precise monetary demands contained in Ecclestone's final contract offer, including the need for a government or bank guarantee of $175m over five years.



    "Ultimately, no private promoter expressed interest in taking on such a great risk, considering the limited revenue generated by the event," the Canadian officials said.

    When faced with a counter-offer, Ecclestone 'refused to budge', they added.

    "Faced with this intransigence, he was presented with an enhanced proposal for the 2009 edition, but Mister Ecclestone would not alter his position," the statement explained.

    In the accompanying press conference, the officials were no less scathing of the 78-year-old billionaire, but the door to a return in 2010 was left open.

    "After 2009, there may be another round of negotiations," Bachand said.

    ah well, what can we do.

    go to brazil for inter next year :D hmmm maybe spain,
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Bernie Ecclestone is confident his plan to replace the current points system with Olympic Games-style 'medals' will be introduced in time for the 2009 season opener.

    The F1 Chief Executive revealed recently he wants the drivers on the podium to be presented gold, silver and bronze medals, rather than awarded ten, eight and six points respectively.

    The change, he argues, will rid the sport of the situation of the 2008 series finale in Brazil, where Lewis Hamilton was able to finish just fifth and still be crowned world champion.

    If Ecclestone's new system had been in place, the McLaren driver and Felipe Massa would have been tied on five gold medals apiece, setting up a dash to be first to the chequered flag and the title.

    It is believed that points will still be awarded to the teams for the constructors' championship on the basis of the current system.

    Drivers finishing races 'out of the medals', meanwhile, will not score points, but their finishing positions over the season will determine their championship ranking.

    Ecclestone, 78, told The Times: "The FIA and all the teams are behind it and it will be done."

    He insists that the system will ensure that the emphasis of the front-running drivers' approach to races will be on winning, rather than scoring good points.

    "The whole point will be, when they get to Melbourne for the first race, the guys will want to leave there with a gold medal. They (will not) want to leave with ten, eight or six points," Ecclestone said.

    The matter has been discussed by FIA President Max Mosley, but the details are yet to be worked out.

    Ecclestone's system will require ratification by the World Motor Sport Council at its December meeting.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    I am not sure how I feel about the point system. Should be interesting.
    I actually don't mind the new look of the cars.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Ecclestone confident his new medal system will be approved next month.

    Nicole Rosberg says she isn't sure about racing if next year at Williams is as big a bust as 2008.
  • Austicman
    Austicman Posts: 1,328
    Mark Webber has had himself a nasty accident at a charity push bike event. He got hit by a car while riding. The only injury I've heard about is a broken leg. But reports have him as seriously injuried. I'd guessing he'll be racing the clock to be fit for the season opener. I don't like his chances of holding onto his ride if he's out indefinately.
    I can't go the library anymore, everyone STINKS!!

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