Increased anxiety/paranoia due to smoking?

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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    In this day and age... everyone knows the dangers.

    And yep, listen to the addicted smokers, we're the ones who wish we'd never started... don't ya think that makes sense? I started when I was 9... sure I'd heard about the risks... but it was the cool thing to do :rolleyes: IMO there's no other reason for someone to want to start. I can't believe you're even debating this.

    Whether everyone knows the dangers is irrelevant. You started when you were 9 and you're only a couple of years older than me. You knew the dangers as well. Oh but it was 'the cool thing to do', so that's fine. :rolleyes:

    And what do you think I'm debating? I took up smoking because when I was going through extreme anxiety, a cigarette was the only thing that would make my tense shoulders drop and relax. It now seems to be having the opposite effect so I don't like it and I'm giving up. No debate there.

    I've had 2 cigarettes in as many days.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Whether everyone knows the dangers is irrelevant. You started when you were 9 and you're only a couple of years older than me. You knew the dangers as well. Oh but it was 'the cool thing to do', so that's fine. :rolleyes:

    And what do you think I'm debating? I took up smoking because when I was going through extreme anxiety, a cigarette was the only thing that would make my tense shoulders drop and relax. It now seems to be having the opposite effect so I don't like it and I'm giving up. No debate there.

    I've had 2 cigarettes in as many days.
    That's fine... it just makes about as much sense to me as somebody who becomes homeless taking heroin to make it all better.

    and I was 9 almost 20 years ago :eek:
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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    That's fine... it just makes about as much sense to me as somebody who becomes homeless taking heroin to make it all better.

    A vast majority of them do... not ignorant of the dangers, but inspite of them. Most of us who have tried any mind-altering drug are subconsciously - or maybe not so subconsciously - attracted to the idea of oblivion and nothingness; we don't mind 'killing ourselves softly', deep down, even if it takes 60 years to do so.
    and I was 9 almost 20 years ago :eek:

    We knew a lot about the dangers of cigarettes back then. It was the 80s.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    A vast majority of them do... not ignorant of the dangers, but inspite of them. Most of us who have tried any mind-altering drug are subconsciously - or maybe not so subconsciously - attracted to the idea of oblivion and nothingness; we don't mind 'killing ourselves softly', deep down, even if it takes 60 years to do so.



    We knew a lot about the dangers of cigarettes back then. It was the 80s.
    yeh, cos a 9 year old gives a fuck about health warnings :cool:
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    yeh, cos a 9 year old gives a fuck about health warnings :cool:
    :eek:
    9?!?!?!???!?!!??!?
    I can hardly believe that.
    Who lets a 9 yr old smoke?
    Or you were hiding it very well.
    Holy smokes.
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    TrixieCat wrote:
    :eek:
    9?!?!?!???!?!!??!?
    I can hardly believe that.
    Who lets a 9 yr old smoke?
    Or you were hiding it very well.
    Holy smokes.
    My sister! I still give her shit over it. She used to go for a cycle so she could smoke... she'd bring me with her so it wouldn't be obvious... she got me to start so I couldn't tell on her :eek:
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • Steve Dunne
    Steve Dunne Posts: 4,965
    Mark - stop smoking or i'll come over there and beat you silly.

    Helen - 9? Holy Christ! Was this because you were the most sober one in the pub and had to drive everyone home too?
    I love to turn you on
  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    Steve Dunne wrote:
    Mark - stop smoking or i'll come over there and beat you silly.

    Helen - 9? Holy Christ! Was this because you were the most sober one in the pub and had to drive everyone home too?

    haha..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • Flannel Shirt
    Flannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    smoking instantly increases heart rate and raises blood pressure. those of us who have smoked much longer than we have cared to probably dont even notice anymore.

    from wikapedia..
    "Inhalation of tobacco smoke causes several immediate responses within the heart and blood vessels. Within one minute the heart rate begins to rise, increasing by as much as 30 percent during the first 10 minutes of smoking."

    that said, i am quitting today. no PJ shows, no holidays, no reasons not to. one gerb with the morning coffee for the last time....

    wish me luck.
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    TrixieCat wrote:
    :eek:
    9?!?!?!???!?!!??!?
    I can hardly believe that.
    Who lets a 9 yr old smoke?
    Or you were hiding it very well.
    Holy smokes.

    Seriously 9?? At that age I barely even knew how to put on a condom properly..wow..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    The Champ wrote:
    Seriously 9?? At that age I barely even knew how to put on a condom properly..wow..
    :D well don't get me wrong, I come from the middle of the country... not really very much to do... but we were still quite innocent for the most part. I probably didn't even know what a condom WAS. But yep, seriously 9!
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    :D well don't get me wrong, I come from the middle of the country... not really very much to do... but we were still quite innocent for the most part. I probably didn't even know what a condom WAS. But yep, seriously 9!
    I know you are gone for the day, but please answer me this tomorrow:
    How old was your sister?
    Shame on her. :p
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    yeh, cos a 9 year old gives a fuck about health warnings :cool:

    My only point is that to say I am ridiculous for taking up smoking, despite yourself having been a smoking 9 year old, is very hypocritical. And you tried to use the excuse that we just didn't have the health information back then. Now you're saying you just 'didn't give a fuck'. Which is it?

    You give a fuck about health warnings now, obviously. Why don't you give up?
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • jamie uk
    jamie uk Posts: 3,812
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    My only point is that to say I am ridiculous for taking up smoking, despite yourself having been a smoking 9 year old, is very hypocritical. And you tried to use the excuse that we just didn't have the health information back then. Now you're saying you just 'didn't give a fuck'. Which is it?

    You give a fuck about health warnings now, obviously. Why don't you give up?

    I think the point Helen is making is that a 9 year old is less likely to consider the dangers or the warnings, not that they actually 'don't give a fuck'. You have to admit it's very unusual for anyone over the age of say 13 or 14 to take up smoking, I'm sure that's the only point anyone is making Mark.
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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    jamie uk wrote:
    I think the point Helen is making is that a 9 year old is less likely to consider the dangers or the warnings, not that they actually 'don't give a fuck'. You have to admit it's very unusual for anyone over the age of say 13 or 14 to take up smoking, I'm sure that's the only point anyone is making Mark.

    I have no idea how old anyone is when they start smoking... I did no research into it before I started. I know no teenage smokers, personally, and certainly no 9 year olds who've smoked.

    I started because it was the only thing that relaxed me during the hardest time of my life so far... nothing to do with it being 'cool' or 'not cool'. Anyone who does anything for that reason is the village idiot.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • jamie uk
    jamie uk Posts: 3,812
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I had no idea how old anyone was when they started smoking... I did no research into it. I know no teenage smokers, personally, and certainly no 9 year olds.

    I started because it was the only thing that relaxed me during the hardest time of my life so far... nothing to do with it being 'cool' or 'not cool'. Anyone who does anything for that reason is the village idiot.


    Sure 9 is very young, most people I know started when they were between 13 and 16. I did no research either :p just from my own memory, we all tried it at comprehensive school, some took to it, some didn't, I mean to me it's not an easy thing to become addicted to because it tastes so bloody awful...I mean you have to work hard at first I'm sure. It's not eating donuts is it? That would be easy to become addicted to :)
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    I think I would seriously die if I saw a 9 yr old smoking. :eek:
    The sight of a pregnant woman smoking is bad enough.
    And yes, a 9 yr old cannot seriously be held responsible for caring about the health warnings that come with smoking, now or then.
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    jamie uk wrote:
    Sure 9 is very young, most people I know started when they were between 13 and 16. I did no research either :p just from my own memory, we all tried it at comprehensive school, some took to it, some didn't, I mean to me it's not an easy thing to become addicted to because it tastes so bloody awful... I mean you have to work hard at first I'm sure. It's not eating donuts is it? That would be easy to become addicted to :)

    I was raised by a Conservative Christian family... I didn't try any mind-altering substances except for the Holy Spirit. :rolleyes:

    And yes, cigarettes are disgusting. I went through a few before deciding that nope, it wasn't just a bad choice of brand.... it was a bad choice of dirty habit. :p
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • jamie uk
    jamie uk Posts: 3,812
    Here you go, I did some research :p
    As I suspected, it says 90% of smokers start in their teens.


    It's Not Easy to Kick Butt : No matter what age people start smoking - and nearly 90% of adult smokers start while they are still teens - they never intend to get hooked. They may start by bumming a cigarette or two from a friend at a party, and then go on to buying an occasional pack. Soon they realize that they can't go without that pack. They've gotten used to reaching for a cigarette first thing in the morning, after meals, or during any stressful time. They are addicted, both physically and psychologically.

    http://www.body-fizzeek.co.uk/Smoking.htm
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  • jamie uk
    jamie uk Posts: 3,812
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I was raised by a Conservative Christian family... I didn't try any mind-altering substances except for the Holy Spirit. :rolleyes:

    And yes, cigarettes are disgusting. I went through a few before deciding that nope, it wasn't just a bad choice of brand.... it was a bad choice of dirty habit. :p



    Well most people develop habits when they're teenagers Mark :o know what I mean? :p
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....

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