Waiters: How much do you tip out?

dunkman · November 2007

Heineken Helen wrote:

but what I mean is... if I buy something, actually here it's the law that the price must be on show... and that's all you're charged. So everything is included. and it makes sense. What's the point in looking at a menu and thinking 'ok so that's 15.95 + 12.5% tax + 15% tip... hmm... let me get my calculator out' rather than... say the total on the bill being 19.30. Which one is easiest? Which one makes more sense? Over here if you run a business, your employees are your responsibility, as are your taxes... everything should be just included. I want to know what my feckin meal costs... just one price... not three different prices... it's STUPID!

23924 posts so far Hells and thats by far your best...

3 high fives and 2 hail marys

Heineken Helen · November 2007

dunkman wrote:

23924 posts so far Hells and thats by far your best...

3 high fives and 2 hail marys

I'll be the judge of what my best post is

well actually no, cos I can't be bothered.

But I will say this: Jesus fucking christ, how fucking hard is it to understand? :eek:

Derrick · November 2007

@ The Europeans:

Tipping is an effective way of weeding out bad wait staff. If a waiter/waitress isn't making 10-15 percent of the bill on tips in a night, they will not be in that line of work much longer. So what you are left with... is the people that provide good enough service to bring in good tips.

I typically leave 15% of the pretax total or 10% of the post-tax total. The 10% one is easier to figure out if I've had a few drinks. If the service is bad, I will leave a couple dollars...maybe. But to be perfectly honest, I can't remember the last time I've had such bad service that I've considered not tipping.

Also where I live, if there is ever a mistake in the experience, the manager will come out and make sure the bill is adjusted accordingly. The other night we went out with friends to East Side Mario's and the kids' meals didn't come out until well after the adult meals. A manager came by when the meals were out and apologized. She indicated there would be no charge for the kids' meals. As such, I didn't mind tipping still.

Most places here split the tips with the kitchen staff and hosting staff, so they are managed by managers...I know for a fact if someone is consistently getting bad tips, they aren't kept around much, or are often sent home early.

dunkman · November 2007

Heineken Helen wrote:

I'll be the judge of what my best post is well actually no, cos I can't be bothered.

But I will say this: Jesus fucking christ, how fucking hard is it to understand? :eek:

and i'll be the judge of what i think your best post is... so shut up

p.s. i'll tip you 5% to shut up

Heineken Helen · November 2007

Derrick wrote:

@ The Europeans:

Tipping is an effective way of weeding out bad wait staff. If a waiter/waitress isn't making 10-15 percent of the bill on tips in a night, they will not be in that line of work much longer. So what you are left with... is the people that provide good enough service to bring in good tips.

I typically leave 15% of the pretax total or 10% of the post-tax total. The 10% one is easier to figure out if I've had a few drinks. If the service is bad, I will leave a couple dollars...maybe. But to be perfectly honest, I can't remember the last time I've had such bad service that I've considered not tipping.

Also where I live, if there is ever a mistake in the experience, the manager will come out and make sure the bill is adjusted accordingly. The other night we went out with friends to East Side Mario's and the kids' meals didn't come out until well after the adult meals. A manager came by when the meals were out and apologized. She indicated there would be no charge for the kids' meals. As such, I didn't mind tipping still.

Most places here split the tips with the kitchen staff and hosting staff, so they are managed by managers...I know for a fact if someone is consistently getting bad tips, they aren't kept around much, or are often sent home early.

we have the same things here... if someone has a complaint they will more than likely take something off the bill... and normally resolve it in such a way that the person's quite happy leaving the place. I used to love getting complaints cos customer care is one of my strong points (i.e. I'm a good bullshitter) and I KNEW I'd get a tip out of it.

Over here we PAY the kitchen and hosting staff. Over here, if someone isn't doing their job they're got rid of. Everything's pretty much the same except the bill is all one figure... I dunno what you're all so afraid of

. Only difference is that here... the government regulates your wages to make sure nobody's being ripped off... over there, if you have a quiet night (hardly your fault) you don't get paid

doesn't make sense.

Heineken Helen · November 2007

dunkman wrote:

and i'll be the judge of what i think your best post is... so shut up

p.s. i'll tip you 5% to shut up

make it 17.85% + tax and it's a deal :cool:

mookie9999 · November 2007

Heineken Helen wrote:

And to mookie who said that it will all be included in the cost of our food, well it is and we still think it's a better system... and it's still not much more expensive than over there (if any when you take cost of living into account). It's not rocket science.

No offense, but you can't compare you tiny ass country with America and say "it's still not much more expensive..." It never will be a direct comparison. Plus, depending on where you are dining, and taking account of the exchange rate, and how damn weak our fecking dollar is right now, there is NO WAY that prices are close. So factor everything in, and you will see, for the most part, you are getting a bargain for eating out in the States. The only trouble is having to figure out the tip, which apparently is a tough mathematical equation for some. When I'm in other countries I do what is customary (regardless if I agree or don't), why is that such a frustrating concept for you folks?

Heineken Helen · November 2007

mookie9999 wrote:

No offense, but you can't compare you tiny ass country with America and say "it's still not much more expensive..." It never will be a direct comparison. Plus, depending on where you are dining, and taking account of the exchange rate, and how damn weak our fecking dollar is right now, there is NO WAY that prices are close. So factor everything in, and you will see, for the most part, you are getting a bargain for eating out in the States. The only trouble is having to figure out the tip, which apparently is a tough mathematical equation for some. When I'm in other countries I do what is customary (regardless if I agree or don't), why is that such a frustrating concept for you folks?

what part of my posts are you actually READING??? Yep, the two are comparable... NYC I find actually more expensive than Dublin, Chicago I found to be pretty much on a par with where I come from, Delaware was much cheaper than both. I've been over there so yeh, I believe I CAN compare... you're getting pretty annoyed about this. It is MY opinion that our way works better... and it does... you get one price for the entire meal. And I'm making those comparisons BEFORE tips

and I've been to a lot of places in Europe too... so I believe I'm qualified to compare as are most others here. And yeh, Prices ARE that close! And considering Ireland has a relatively high cost of living... for the two to STILL be comparable says a lot

mookie9999 · November 2007

Heineken Helen wrote:

what part of my posts are you actually READING??? Yep, the two are comparable... NYC I find actually more expensive than Dublin, Chicago I found to be pretty much on a par with where I come from, Delaware was much cheaper than both. I've been over there so yeh, I believe I CAN compare... you're getting pretty annoyed about this. It is MY opinion that our way works better... and it does... you get one price for the entire meal. And I'm making those comparisons BEFORE tips and I've been to a lot of places in Europe too... so I believe I'm qualified to compare as are most others here. And yeh, Prices ARE that close

For the record I don't have time to get annoyed by things of this nature when I have bigger fish to fry, such as what am I eating for lunch . By the way, I think your way is better, but as I stated in my post (I guess selective reading is prevalent in Ireland as well) you should follow the customs of wherever you are. Now, I remember reading that you do tip, but those who say they will not tip here in the States shouldn't eat out when visiting. If you do, you are ruining it for the tourists who do tip because having worked at a restaurant in NYC I know that servers will be prejudiced and will dread serving you.

evenkat · November 2007

Heineken Helen wrote:

but what I mean is... if I buy something, actually here it's the law that the price must be on show... and that's all you're charged. So everything is included. and it makes sense. What's the point in looking at a menu and thinking 'ok so that's 15.95 + 12.5% tax + 15% tip... hmm... let me get my calculator out' rather than... say the total on the bill being 19.30. Which one is easiest? Which one makes more sense? Over here if you run a business, your employees are your responsibility, as are your taxes... everything should be just included. I want to know what my feckin meal costs... just one price... not three different prices... it's STUPID!

So what you're saying is we're smarter than you

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Of course it's easier not needing to fugure out everything in our heads but we're pretty much used to it.

Lol but there IS tipping in Ireland!

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g186591-s606/Ireland:Tipping.And.Etiquette.html

Inside Ireland: Tipping & Etiquette

Tipping

Tipping is expected in Ireland in most services. In restaurants, gratuity is usually included for larger parties but not for smaller. Dependent on the style and calibre of restaurant, tipping of at least 10% upwards is expected.

Hotel porters are usually tipped €1 a bag. Taxi's are usually rounded up to the next € or €. While barman do not expect tips, lounge staff (floor serving staff) do and €1 or €2 for a large round is considered acceptable.

And tipping in Scotland Dunky:

http://www.seeglasgow.com/seeglasgow/travellers-tips

Tipping

There are no hard and fast rules for tipping in Scotland. If you are happy with the service, a 10-15% tip is customary, particularly in a restaurant or café with table service. Tipping in bars is not expected. For taxi fares it is usual to round up to the nearest pound (£).

http://www.cozzee-nessie-bed.co.uk/expect.html

Tips and tipping

This is a custom many people have problems with but there is no reason for it to cause any concern. First, if you don't want to tip don't - it's as simple as that. If you do want to tip follow these guidelines...Never ever tip when you have received in your view bad service. You should expect good service so I would not tip for good service. However I would thank the person concerned for carrying out their duties. If you have received outstanding service then tip and thank the person concerned. A tip is usually worked out at 10% of the total bill. If possible tip in cash, this will ensure the person that has given you outstanding service will definitely keep the tip. Some less scrupulous proprietors will keep the tip if paid with the credit card - and the credit card company also gets a cut. Who to tip? Once again this is only if you have received outstanding service. Any person offering you a service in an hotel. Waiters, bell boys etc. However don't forget the people you don't see, house maids etc. Taxis, hairdressers, coach drivers of tour busses not scheduled busses. People working behind a bar are usually offered a drink and not tipped. The person concerned will usually ask if you mind if they drink it later and take a nominal amount.

MattCameronKicksButt · November 2007

[quote="evenkatTips and tipping

This is a custom many people have problems with but there is no reason for it to cause any concern. First, if you don't want to tip don't - it's as simple as that. If you do want to tip follow these guidelines...Never ever tip when you have received in your view bad service. You should expect good service so I would not tip for good service. However I would thank the person concerned for carrying out their duties. [/quote"]

Thank You. This is what I believe in.

(Sorry about the quote).

dunkman · November 2007

evenkat wrote:

And tipping in Scotland Dunky:

http://www.seeglasgow.com/seeglasgow/travellers-tips

Tipping

There are no hard and fast rules for tipping in Scotland. If you are happy with the service, a 10-15% tip is customary, particularly in a restaurant or café with table service. Tipping in bars is not expected. For taxi fares it is usual to round up to the nearest pound (£).

an Englishman wrote that as a joke.

its only customary... whereas in US & CAN its almost obligatory... i've even read on here that people still tip a dollar or two if the service is lousy...

if the service is lousy in Scotland we complain to the manager who usually gives us a free drink or some other concession... but certainly no tip would be left for shitty service.

Heineken Helen · November 2007

mookie9999 wrote:

For the record I don't have time to get annoyed by things of this nature when I have bigger fish to fry, such as what am I eating for lunch . By the way, I think your way is better, but as I stated in my post (I guess selective reading is prevalent in Ireland as well) you should follow the customs of wherever you are. Now, I remember reading that you do tip, but those who say they will not tip here in the States shouldn't eat out when visiting. If you do, you are ruining it for the tourists who do tip because having worked at a restaurant in NYC I know that servers will be prejudiced and will dread serving you.

yep I tip and I follow the customs of whatever country I'm in... doesn't mean I have to like it

If I were in certain countries I'd have to walk 10 steps behind any male friends I'd have with me... that's why I don't go to those countries... tipping I can put up with but I'm just debating the logic in COMPULSORY tipping! If I get good to excellent service I've absolutely no problem being pretty generous. Anything less than good though... well that's a different story and I don't think anyone should HAVE to tip in such circumstances.

Heineken Helen · November 2007

evenkat wrote:

Tipping

Tipping is expected in Ireland in most services. In restaurants, gratuity is usually included for larger parties but not for smaller. Dependent on the style and calibre of restaurant, tipping of at least 10% upwards is expected.

Hotel porters are usually tipped €1 a bag. Taxi's are usually rounded up to the next € or €. While barman do not expect tips, lounge staff (floor serving staff) do and €1 or €2 for a large round is considered acceptable.

Nah, we've sorted this one out before. It's certainly not expected... far from it. And I never do it in percentage... just leave anything from 2 to 10 euro (the latter for super exceptional service). I never tip hotel porters... mainly cos I never use them so I'm not sure about that... depends on whether you're used to tipping or not I suppose. Taxi's... now this one is WRONG... I wouldn't round it up to the nearest euro but to the nearest 5euro. If my trip is 26.50 I'd give him 30 and tell him to keep it... but often taxi drivers round the fare DOWN... if it was 26.50, he'd often say 'but just leave it at 25'. Lounge staff... that one's just about right... but irrespective of the size of the round... even if it's just 2 drinks you generally tell them to keep the change whether it's a euro or two.

Waiters: How much do you tip out?

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