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NY PJ1 · June 2008

Bathgate66 wrote:

think theres already one or twon of them

( from The Jed Ortmeyer lovers)

my brother has 1 since he took over

Phantom Pain · June 2008

singularity wrote:

if he does not sign avery, rangers fans will be putting a price on sather's head.

He'll look good in Orange and Black

rival. · June 2008

Bathgate66 wrote:

think theres already one or twon of them

( from The Jed Ortmeyer lovers)

yeah, jed is one, and i'd have to say nylander is the other.

Bathgate66 · June 2008

John Tortorella will not be replacing Tom Renney as head coach of the Rangers after being dismissed as Lightning coach, says John Tortorella, according to John Dellapina reporting in Blueshirts Blog. The rampant rumor that he would step in with Renney moving up to Assistant GM is not true, according to the Stanley Cup winner (pictured left) who coached his first games in New York in 1999 as a late season replacement for John Muckler in the last days of the Neil Smith regime.

In addition to all that Tortorella said to Dellapina, and all that Dellapina added from his own point of view, it is worth adding that Glen Sather has never been known to favor someone outside of his inner circle over someone within it. Indeed, with Tortorella as his sitting head coach when he took over in New York, Sather brought in one of his old buddies, Ron Low, to coach. As the story goes, he couldn't even pronounce Tortorella's name, confusing him with a popular pasta dish. On top of that, Renney certainly has done nothing to warrant replacement at this time, especially since he is working so well with young players he helped draft and develop.

So how different would the playoffs that ended last night have been had the referee in Game 2 of the Ranger-Penguin series been in as good of a position as the referee was last night on the Red Wings' Cup-winning goal? In an identical situation, Martin Straka's apparent equalizer late in that game was whistled dead by a referee who was way off in the corner and couldn't see that the puck was still in play. Still, the referees amazingly gave Pittsburgh one last gasp, calling the most ticky tacky of hooks after allowing everything short of murder in the third period, and then failing to call Ryan Malone for swatting a stick away from a defender in the sequence that led directly to a goal. Hooray for the NHL that the Wings persevered.

igotid88 · June 2008

Bathgate66 wrote:

John Tortorella will not be replacing Tom Renney as head coach of the Rangers after being dismissed as Lightning coach, says John Tortorella, according to John Dellapina reporting in Blueshirts Blog. The rampant rumor that he would step in with Renney moving up to Assistant GM is not true, according to the Stanley Cup winner (pictured left) who coached his first games in New York in 1999 as a late season replacement for John Muckler in the last days of the Neil Smith regime.

In addition to all that Tortorella said to Dellapina, and all that Dellapina added from his own point of view, it is worth adding that Glen Sather has never been known to favor someone outside of his inner circle over someone within it. Indeed, with Tortorella as his sitting head coach when he took over in New York, Sather brought in one of his old buddies, Ron Low, to coach. As the story goes, he couldn't even pronounce Tortorella's name, confusing him with a popular pasta dish. On top of that, Renney certainly has done nothing to warrant replacement at this time, especially since he is working so well with young players he helped draft and develop.

So how different would the playoffs that ended last night have been had the referee in Game 2 of the Ranger-Penguin series been in as good of a position as the referee was last night on the Red Wings' Cup-winning goal? In an identical situation, Martin Straka's apparent equalizer late in that game was whistled dead by a referee who was way off in the corner and couldn't see that the puck was still in play. Still, the referees amazingly gave Pittsburgh one last gasp, calling the most ticky tacky of hooks after allowing everything short of murder in the third period, and then failing to call Ryan Malone for swatting a stick away from a defender in the sequence that led directly to a goal. Hooray for the NHL that the Wings persevered.

It seemed like they were giving Pittsburgh every chance to win.

Bathgate66 · June 2008

Dellapina

Jaromir Jagr waiting to see if he's still wanted by Rangers
By JOHN DELLAPINA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Friday, June 6

Jaromir Jagr is waiting for some love from the Rangers or he might stay in Russia.

Jaromir Jage felt the love from Rangers fans during the playoffs. He has been feeling it from Russia for months, what with Anatoli Bardin, the GM of the Omsk-Avangard team, having courted him heavily.

But what Jagr appears to be waiting for is some sort of comparable affection from Rangers GM Glen Sather. Jagr told the Daily News again Thursday that his first choice is to return to the Rangers for next season but he is not sure whether the feeling is mutual.

"Do I have an offer from Russia? Probably," Jagr said, refusing to discuss details of what Bardin promised him when he flew to New York to meet with him and with Sather on March 30.

But when asked whether it was now a case of seeing whether the Rangers would match the offer or come close, Jagr replied: "No, it's not that at all. I just want to know if I feel any interest from New York. That's what I want to know first.

"I told (the Omsk representatives) I didn't want to talk to anybody before I talked to the Rangers. They know that."

Jagr, 36, just returned to New York from a vacation in Mexico. He hasn't spoken with Sather since May 7, when the Rangers broke for the summer. And he hasn't been in touch with his agents, Pat Brisson and J.P. Barry.

"I didn't talk to them in a while - probably they were concerned with (Sidney) Crosby during the playoffs," Jagr said, referring to another of his agents' high-profile clients. "Probably, they're going to talk to Glen right away now."

Still, rumors have been flying about where Jagr will play next season - his contract expires June 30 - and how much Omsk-Avangard offered him. Bardin maintains that reports of a Russian Super League salary cap-busting offer in excess of $12 million per season were greatly exaggerated.

Jagr, however, insists that money is not the issue. He mentioned how much his girlfriend, Czech-born model Inna Puhajkova, loves New York.

"She doesn't say anything," Jagr cracked. But then he conceded: "Probably, she wants to stay here."

Bathgate66 · June 2008

todays Sunday NY Post

June 8, 2008 -- ALL RIGHT. Let's get this offseason started. The Red Wings won the Stanley Cup because of their skilled forwards; because of their structure; because Chris Osgood - the most successful IslandersNew York Islanders goaltender of the Charles Wang Era - redefined his career; and perhaps most importantly . . . all together now . . . because of the way their defense moved the puck without sacrificing anything on the other end.

So, tell me: How can the RangersNew York Rangers spend the $4.5-5M it will surely take to land Pittsburgh's heavy-hitting impending free agent defenseman Brooks Orpik following his breakout tournament, when it likely will cost around the same $5M per to re-sign Michal RozsivalMichal Rozsival ?

Yes, Rozsival had a disappointing season. But factor in mitigating circumstances - not excuses - that featured a wonky knee, an insecure response to playing out his contract and collateral concern over partner and friend Marek Malik's downward spiral out of the lineup. Now weigh those against the upside Rozsival displayed the previous two seasons, and most notably in the 2007 playoffs. Is Glen Sather not wiser to pony up for No. 3 rather than get into a bidding war for Orpik . . . if he even hits the market, that is?

The Rangers, we're told, are among a select number of teams interested in former Penguins defenseman Josef Melichar, who played this season in the Swedish Elite League. A physical-oriented defenseman who will turn 30 in January, Melichar probably can be signed for approximately $1M.

So, are the Blueshirts better off with a combined $6M investment in Rozsival and projected third-pair defenseman Melichar, or with a combined $6.5-7M investment in Orpik and, say, impending Montreal free agent Mark Streit, who would play on the third pair and on the vacated power-play point?

Up front, are the Rangers more likely to win the Stanley Cup within the next couple of years if they re-sign Jaromir Jagr for a base of approximately $5M, or if they instead the cut the cord and invest the $7M per for which Marian Hossa, who in his own breakout postseason, was Pittsburgh's most consistently dangerous forward?

Are the Rangers more formidable with Hossa on the first unit playing with Scott Gomez and Chris Drury, and Brandon Dubinsky lined up as second and third pivots? Or are they better with Dubinsky playing with Jagr while Gomez seeks a compatible second-line winger and Drury is again dispatched to the third line? There is no guarantee Hossa will sign with the Blueshirts if he gets to July 1, but we have heard nothing to suggest he would not.

The cap is going to be approximately $56M. If Christian Backman's $2.3M is subtracted from the 2008-09 roster via waivers or a trade, the Rangers should have the space to absorb a fourth $7M commitment.

After plugging in Hossa at $7M, Rozsival at $5M and Melichar at $1M, then subtracting Backman, we have the Rangers at approximately $44.4M, without a back-up goaltender; sixth and seventh defensemen; and without Sean Avery, Brendan Shanahan and Martin Straka.

The puck is in Sather's end of the ice. And the clock is ticking.

*

The NHL's two most glittering U.S.-based teams meet in the Cup final and the ratings skyrocket. Who would have guessed? Not Tiger Woods. Asked on Monday who would win the Cup, Woods said, "I don't really care. I don't think anyone watches hockey anymore, do they?"

We have been told not to be surprised if such a Group II offer sheet is extended to Nigel Dawes, who is owed a $545,000 qualifier from the Rangers.

Why are we getting this feeling that the longer the Rangers take to send out their season-ticket invoices, the more painful they're going to be to open?

Finally, if the NHL has a sense of humor, won't Gary Bettman invite Woods to drop the puck at the Red Wings' banner-raising home opener next season? And wouldn't Woods be wise to accept the invitation?

larry.brooks@nypost.com

Bathgate66 · June 2008

Blueshirt Bulletin Poll

Which Of The Follwowing Trades ( in chronological order ) is the worst The NY Rangers have made in the last 30 + years ?

_____ Ratelle, Park, Middleton and Zannussi for Espo , Vadnais, & Hodge

_____ Ridley & Miller for Carpenter , Carpenter & Laidlaw for Dionne

_____ Zubov & Nedved for Robitaille & Samuelsson

_____ Norstrom, Laperierre , Ferrarro, et al , for Kurri , McSorley & Churla

_____ Sundstrom, Cloutier, the 2000#1 , for the 1999 # 1 used to draft Brendl

_____ Svarad and the 1999 #11 overall for Hlavac and tyhe 1999 # 9 overall

_____ Johnson , Brendl and Hlavac for Lindros

_____ Other

on a sidenote i wanted to ask the regulars here who was attending what show(s).? Pre- parties ? After show parties ? ( BB Kings anyone ? )
I may have a few extra 10C as well as non 10C tickets to attend some of these shows- so if you feel you may be interested post here or contact me via PM service.
Also - my email is Bathgate66@aol.com .
my mem # is 205xxx .
I have 1 ticket to :

Camden 1 & 2
( with hotel )

MSG 1 & 2

Mansfield 1 & 2
( with hotel )

xavier mcdaniel · June 2008

I'd vote for the Zubov one. As good a player as Park was, they did make that run to the cup finals in 1979 with Esposito. Of course Esposito was running the show when the Rangers became a disaster in 1989. But of course if he doesn't get fired or suceeds to a degree to keep his job, maybe the Rangers never hire Neil Smith.

Hawkshore · June 2008

Bathgate66 wrote:

Blueshirt Bulletin Poll

Which Of The Follwowing Trades ( in chronological order ) is the worst The NY Rangers have made in the last 30 + years ?

_____ Ratelle, Park, Middleton and Zannussi for Espo , Vadnais, & Hodge

_____ Ridley & Miller for Carpenter , Carpenter & Laidlaw for Dionne

_____ Zubov & Nedved for Robitaille & Samuelsson

_____ Norstrom, Laperierre , Ferrarro, et al , for Kurri , McSorley & Churla

_____ Sundstrom, Cloutier, the 2000#1 , for the 1999 # 1 used to draft Brendl

_____ Svarad and the 1999 #11 overall for Hlavac and tyhe 1999 # 9 overall

_____ Johnson , Brendl and Hlavac for Lindros

_____ Other

on a sidenote i wanted to ask the regulars here who was attending what show(s).? Pre- parties ? After show parties ? ( BB Kings anyone ? )
I may have a few extra 10C as well as non 10C tickets to attend some of these shows- so if you feel you may be interested post here or contact me via PM service.
Also - my email is Bathgate66@aol.com .
my mem # is 205xxx .
I have 1 ticket to :

Camden 1 & 2
( with hotel )

MSG 1 & 2

Mansfield 1 & 2
( with hotel )

What about Doug Weight to the Oil for Esa Tikanen?

Didn't Weight play 8 season for the Oil and captain the team?

rival. · June 2008

zubov.

not that luc and ulf did us wrong during their stay in NY, but we let one of the premier defensemen in the league go. you wonder if he was still on the roster between the dark years of 97-04, we probably would have been able to earn a playoff spot in a few of those seasons.

Bathgate66 · June 2008

Hawkshore wrote:

What about Doug Weight to the Oil for Esa Tikanen? Didn't Weight play 8 season for the Oil and captain the team?

cant knock esa tikkenen too much ,

that guy skating around kissing the capitals was priceless ,

and they say in the lockerroom it sounded as if he created his very own laguage.

Bathgate66 · June 2008

o h yeah and the bad trades come up as Norstrom announces his retirement today.

talk about hype !

Hawkshore · June 2008

Bathgate66 wrote:

cant knock esa tikkenen too much ,

that guy skating around kissing the capitals was priceless ,

and they say in the lockerroom it sounded as if he created his very own laguage.

Esa really set the standard for today’s agitators! ......you can see a lot of his influence on his country men Ruttu and his style of play!

Andy I just meant from the standpoint that Weight had over 500 points as a member of the Oil and I think Esa only played 1 maybe two seasons as a Ranger!

PatrickBateman · June 2008

Bathgate66 wrote:

cant knock esa tikkenen too much ,

that guy skating around kissing the capitals was priceless ,

and they say in the lockerroom it sounded as if he created his very own laguage.

I loved Tikkanen.....I believe they called it "Tikkanese"

Even though Cloutier didn't become a premier goalie, I didn't like to see him leave. I watched him in Hartford and still have a signed jersey...he is a cool guy.

NY PJ1 · June 2008

Hawkshore wrote:

What about Doug Weight to the Oil for Esa Tikanen? Didn't Weight play 8 season for the Oil and captain the team?

if i remember correctly esa was in the crease on mattaeu's goal

PatrickBateman · June 2008

NY PJ1 wrote:

if i remember correctly esa was in the crease on mattaeu's goal

Fetisov for the Devils plays it across-ice into the far corner............

rival. · June 2008

PatrickBateman wrote:

Fetisov for the Devils plays it across-ice into the far corner............

matteau swoops in to intercept...

Hawkshore · June 2008

Ok Ok Ok!!! I guess I should already realize as a Canucks fan posting in here the topic is always going to go back to 94! :mad:

rival. · June 2008

Hawkshore wrote:

Ok Ok Ok!!! I guess I should already realize as a Canucks fan posting in here the topic is always going to go back to 94! :mad:

especially with june 14th right around the corner

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