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xavier mcdaniel
xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,464
edited December 2007 in All Encompassing Trip
the press conference is slated for 4:30 tommorow, should be interesting to see what selig says on this.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,050
    how many yankees & red sox players to be on that list ?? i say at least 1 from each team ..
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  • eddievedder1977
    eddievedder1977 Posts: 549
    josevolution wrote:
    how many yankees & red sox players to be on that list ?? i say at least 1 from each team ..

    With 60-80 guys being named (former and current players), I'd say there is a great chance that every team will be represented on the Mitchell Report.
  • Jwmcc
    Jwmcc Posts: 451
    I heard one of the problems is that the report only goes back to around 2003, so we'll never know the real genesis of the "steroid era" which started in the 90's. But I could be wrong.

    Also interested is the amount of actual proof they have on these 60-80 names, or if it's just speculation or guilt by association. I sense that there will be at least a few lawsuits against MLB and this commission by the union/players.
    Jw
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    josevolution wrote:
    how many yankees & red sox players to be on that list ?? i say at least 1 from each team ..

    Well Giambi will definitely be named in the report. So there is at least one for the Yankees.
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  • Ms. Haiku
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    I read that the proof is receipt of payment, and phone records or something along those lines. I just hope B-Rob's not on it. Speculation is that he will be . . . alas . . .
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  • sennin
    sennin Posts: 2,146
    Think Clemens is on it?
  • PJSerf
    PJSerf Posts: 637
    I don't think this report is going to cause any great change or get any individual in trouble. The union ensure that. Selig is just trying to save some face.
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  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,464
    Jwmcc wrote:
    I heard one of the problems is that the report only goes back to around 2003, so we'll never know the real genesis of the "steroid era" which started in the 90's. But I could be wrong.

    Also interested is the amount of actual proof they have on these 60-80 names, or if it's just speculation or guilt by association. I sense that there will be at least a few lawsuits against MLB and this commission by the union/players.
    Jw


    good point, especially if their proof is that guy whose name escapes me now, but the one who worked in the mets clubhouse. for all we know, he could be naming names just for the sake of saving himself from further prosecution.
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  • Solat13
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    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    good point, especially if their proof is that guy whose name escapes me now, but the one who worked in the mets clubhouse. for all we know, he could be naming names just for the sake of saving himself from further prosecution.

    Good point, but we already have had one former player, David Segui, admit he bought steroids from Kirk Radomski, the Mets clubhouse guy. So maybe his accusations aren't baseless.
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  • chromiam
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    The Dude will be on there...
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  • blackredyellow
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    Is it just going to be players that were involved?

    I heard a quick bit this morning on Mike & Mike on ESPN radio and what they said made sense to me - Is the report going to cover any ownership or league knowledge about it? We all know that some players used steroids or whatever, but did the league have first hand knowledge about it and turned a blind eye?
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  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,464
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/12/sports/baseball/12mitchell.html?ref=sports
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  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    I watched Costas Now the other night where he interviewed David ortiz. They showed when he was with the twins. After seeing that, I now suspect him big time, though with a Red Sox exec writing the report, who knows....

    We've all seen the after, here's the Before:

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  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    I just had a good laugh listening to WFAN. Caller asks if Mike Piazza will be on the list. The caller said he thinks Piazza is "as clean as the morning snow" and the host, a Met radio guy, said he "has it on good authority that Piazza is not on the list"

    Hah! Since they started testing, Piazza has coincidentally fallen steeply. Remember when he was one of the top hitters in the game?

    2003 .286 11 HR's 34 Rbi
    2004 .265 20 HR's 54 RBI
    2005 .251 19 62
    2006 .283 22 68
    2007 .275 8 44

    That and the guy had a muscle tear off the bone simply by stepping back away from a pitch. yeah, that happens to people all the time....
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    something just occured to me. reports have stated that Bud Selig has had a copy of the report as of no later than Wednesday. So Selig's presser at 4:30 will sem to most as an earnest, immediate response to the Report. Yet Mitchell made sure to take care of his pal Bud, and hook him up with an early, giving him time to prepare for his press grilling. Now, has Mitchell also been taking care of his other conflict of interest, the Red Sox?
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,464
    it would make sense that each team would have copy of the list so they can immediately respond. of course that would be the sensible thing to do, but who knows if they have it.
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  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    it would make sense that each team would have copy of the list so they can immediately respond. of course that would be the sensible thing to do, but who knows if they have it.

    it's been reported that only Bud has a copy. Don't you think if 30 teams had a copy we would already be hearing names?
  • harrymanback
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    First prominant name leaked on espn radio ... Roger Clemens ... no big surprise there.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,008
    harrymanback wrote:
    First prominant name leaked on espn radio ... Roger Clemens ... no big surprise there.
    Along with workout buddy Andy Pettitte.
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  • intodeep
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    Poncier wrote:
    Along with workout buddy Andy Pettitte.
    Perhaps this is why pettite stepped up and signed now while he still could? Maybe if he waited till after the report the yanks might shy away?

    all speculation on my part
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