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Julien wrote:what does "Rye" mean ?
litteraly, "attrape coeurs" means "hearts catcher"
Yeah, I know...I don't know what Rye actually means. I didn't realise that it was the same book until I started reading it. I have the same book in English, which I didn't finish but I recognised the begining of it and on one or two occasions I have referred back to the English edition to check translation.0 -
Cuntified C wrote:Yeah, I know...I don't know what Rye actually means. I didn't realise that it was the same book until I started reading it. I have the same book in English, which I didn't finish but I recognised the begining of it and on one or two occasions I have referred back to the English edition to check translation.2006: Antwerp, Paris
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Catcher In The Rye: how overrated is that book? I totally missed how it was supposed to relate to my life and didn't get the whole "universality of experience" rigamarole that spoken in favour of its classic status. The little snot wasn't a part of any plot either, so when it was over I felt like someone had pulled a fast one on me. "That's it, that's all this bollocks has led up to?"
yeah, and L'Estranger, another lauded novel, was a pretty tedious read.0 -
elmer wrote:Catcher In The Rye: how overrated is that book? I totally missed how it was supposed to relate to my life and didn't get the whole "universality of experience" rigamarole that spoken in favour of its classic status. The little snot wasn't a part of any plot either, so when it was over I felt like someone had pulled a fast one on me. "That's it, that's all this bollocks has led up to?"
yeah, and L'Estranger, another lauded novel, was a pretty tedious read.
I was watching that movie "Chapter 27" about Mark David Chapman, the guy who shot John Lennon. As many of you probably know, he had that book with him when he shot him. Another reason not to like it! By the way, the movie is horrible!"We're fixed good, lamp-wise."0 -
The Story of Edgar Sawtelle. So far it's really good. It was a gift I don't think i would have thought of buying it.Dig a ditch deep enough
To keep you clear of the sun
You've been burned more than once
You don't think much of trust0 -
elmer wrote:Catcher In The Rye: how overrated is that book? I totally missed how it was supposed to relate to my life and didn't get the whole "universality of experience" rigamarole that spoken in favour of its classic status. The little snot wasn't a part of any plot either, so when it was over I felt like someone had pulled a fast one on me. "That's it, that's all this bollocks has led up to?"
yeah, and L'Estranger, another lauded novel, was a pretty tedious read.
L’Étranger is great."I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"0 -
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Jeremy1012 wrote:L’Étranger is great.
But why d'you think it's great, as a story? didn't he just use this novel to convey his ideas through a protagonist that's dull and emotionless? that's as far as my remembrance goes on this........I've got The Plague lurking about somewhere which I'm meaning to read. I prefer Houellebecq for entertainment and black wit, without knowing really what he's getting at.0 -
elmer wrote:I shouldn't of mentioned this in the same block as COTR.
But why d'you think it's great, as a story? didn't he just use this novel to convey his ideas through a protagonist that's dull and emotionless? that's as far as my remembrance goes on this........I've got The Plague lurking about somewhere which I'm meaning to read. I prefer Houellebecq for entertainment and black wit, without knowing really what he's getting at.
I dunno, I guess I just related more to him than Caulfield"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"0 -
"Toll the Hounds"When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.0
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"Plan of Attack" by Bob Woodward.
I'm going to read all four books in the series."Almost all those politicians took money from Enron, and there they are holding hearings. That's like O.J. Simpson getting in the Rae Carruth jury pool." -- Charles Barkley0 -
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Jeremy1012 wrote:It's not great as a story particularly, it's a wonderfully succinct way of presenting his philosophy via a novel though. Naturally Meursault is a dull and emotionless character, he is an indifferent object in an absurd and indifferent world.
I dunno, I guess I just related more to him than Caulfield
i disagree. i am a big fan of l'estanger. i can relate to meursault. i found it interesting that the man was condemned more for his behaviour in regards to him mourning his mother than the crime he committed. tis as if we must conduct ourselves in the manner that society has deemed 'normal' and therefore appropriate and acceptable and not how we choose as individuals. for me it is more an indictment on society than on the individual.hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
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catefrances wrote:i disagree. i am a big fan of l'estanger. i can relate to meursault. i found it interesting that the man was condemned more for his behaviour in regards to him mourning his mother than the crime he committed. tis as if we must conduct ourselves in the manner that society has deemed 'normal' and therefore appropriate and acceptable and not how we choose as individuals. for me it is more an indictment on society than on the individual."I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"0
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Jeremy1012 wrote:How is that disagreeing with me?
as if i care.
but seriously....
i was disagreeing with your summation of it not being that great a story. per se.hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
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catefrances wrote:as if i care.
but seriously....
i was disagreeing with your summation of it not being that great a story. per se."I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"0 -
Woolworths Xmas Gift Guide.oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.0
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Jeremy1012 wrote:I just mean that the plot and narrative is not exactly Dostoevsky but it's not supposed to be. It's a vehicle for Camus' philosophy rather than an end in itself.
then why the fuck were you going on about it not being that great a story when by your own admission its not suppose to be dostoyevsky?
if its a vehicle for camus' philosophy, isnt that an end in itself?hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
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catefrances wrote:then why the fuck were you going on about it not being that great a story when by your own admission its not suppose to be dostoyevsky?
if its a vehicle for camus' philosophy, isnt that an end in itself?
Calm yourself down."I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"0
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