Lost: Season 4 (no spoilers)

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    ... or how a picnic table provided protection against the bullets.
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    Riverrunner wrote:

    I'm so glad that Sawyer is turning out to be the hero. He went to save Claire. He was worried about Hugo. What a guy! I'm just trying to figure out how he and Claire got stuck on the island (assuming they are not dead). We now know that Henry did not get off the island with the Oceanic Six because Sayid asked him how he got off the island.

    I agree that Ben is not one of the Oceanic 6, but I do not believe he got off the island on a sailboat like he claims. If there's one thing we know about Ben, it's too not take him at his word.

    Just a random theory - but you now how Claire fell for Charlie because he was her protector. Maybe Claire falls for Sawyer down the line which is part of the reason why Kate never wants to go back to the island - that and because she took Aaron. ;)
    - Busted down the pretext
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    harrymanback wrote:
    ... or how a picnic table provided protection against the bullets.
    lol...yeah, i was wondering about that one...
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    Solat13 wrote:
    I agree that Ben is not one of the Oceanic 6, but I do not believe he got off the island on a sailboat like he claims. If there's one thing we know about Ben, it's too not take him at his word.

    Just a random theory - but you now how Claire fell for Charlie because he was her protector. Maybe Claire falls for Sawyer down the line which is part of the reason why Kate never wants to go back to the island - that and because she took Aaron. ;)

    Yeah, I agree that Ben probably has/had another way on/off the island that he doesn't want anyone to know about. He must be the only one who can actually find the island and come and go as he pleases - he and Richard that is.

    I can see Claire falling for Sawyer, but not Sawyer falling for Claire. He seems to like the strong willed, feisty ones. But then again, if you are the only two left on an island....
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    Riverrunner wrote:

    I can see Claire falling for Sawyer, but not Sawyer falling for Claire. He seems to like the strong willed, feisty ones. But then again, if you are the only two left on an island....

    Yep, I mean with everyone else off the island for at least a year or maybe longer - you gotta find a way to pass the time. And there can't be that many books on the island for Sawyer to read. ;)
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
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    Solat13 wrote:
    Just a random theory - but you now how Claire fell for Charlie because he was her protector. Maybe Claire falls for Sawyer down the line which is part of the reason why Kate never wants to go back to the island - that and because she took Aaron. ;)
    does that mean hurley's going to fall for sawyer, too? ;)

    claire fell for charlie because he was awesome!
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    Last night's episode was awesome!!!

    Someone finally called one of Ben's bluffs........
    My lips are shaking.......
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    nfanel wrote:
    does that mean hurley's going to fall for sawyer, too? ;)

    claire fell for charlie because he was awesome!

    Hurley needs to find someone to share his guy love with now that Charlie is gone. (Sorry - that was a little Scrubs humor - please ignore if you don't watch Scrubs. ;) )

    But yeah, I miss Charlie too. I'm really going to miss Alex though. I'm sad we didn't get to see more of the Rousseau and Alex reunion that we had been waiting a couple seasons for.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
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    macci wrote:
    Last night's episode was awesome!!!

    Someone finally called one of Ben's bluffs........
    I agree...generally, I love Ben's character, and it was awesome to see someone finally call him without giving him any wiggle room to talk his way out of it. I also love how he manages to manipulate Sayid into murdering Ishamel (or whatever his name was, I'm spacing) anyone think that he was just a foil placed by Ben to gain Sayid's employment? Things like grainy black and white traffic pictures are easy things to counterfeit :p
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    I think Poncier is right. I think Ben did kill Nadia. JERK! :mad:

    And, I thought it was really eff'd up that Alex was shot. That pissed me off.

    Also, smoke monster?? SCARY AS HELL!! I hid behind a pillow.

    I *hate* that Ben is going to go after Penny. And, what about Des? Is he going to end up dying from the weird time travel aneurism??





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    Oh and as I stated to a couple friends about last night's episode:

    I *REFUSE* to see Ben as anything other than a complete machiavellian character. He's horrible.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

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    AmentsChick wrote:
    I *REFUSE* to see Ben as anything other than a complete machiavellian character. He's horrible.
    yes he is, and that's why he's so compelling. ESPECIALLY after last night's episode.
    deep, deep blue of the morning
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    AmentsChick wrote:
    Oh and as I stated to a couple friends about last night's episode:

    I *REFUSE* to see Ben as anything other than a complete machiavellian character. He's horrible.
    i am undecided about him. just when i started to pity him over alex, he had that manipulative smirk when he was walking away from sayid and threatened to go after penny. :mad:

    you hid from the smoke monster? you are adorable. :D

    and by the way... i didn't get that ending with charlie and benry. so penny is currently hiding? why? and is she hiding WITH desmond? that'd be nice to know. i hope he doesn't die b/c of the time travel. hopefully his 'constant' will help prevent that.
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    nfanel wrote:
    i am undecided about him. just when i started to pity him over alex, he had that manipulative smirk when he was walking away from sayid and threatened to go after penny. :mad:

    you hid from the smoke monster? you are adorable. :D

    and by the way... i didn't get that ending with charlie and benry. so penny is currently hiding? why? and is she hiding WITH desmond? that'd be nice to know. i hope he doesn't die b/c of the time travel. hopefully his 'constant' will help prevent that.

    Yeah, I wondered about that too! And, remember back at the end of Season 1 (I think it was?) when the dudes in Antartica (?) called Penny to report that they found Desmond?? Does that still play a role? Who were they?


    And, yes I did hide from the smoke monster. I hate that freaking thing. It's like a scary, smokey giant worm.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

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    Lukin66 wrote:
    yes he is, and that's why he's so compelling. ESPECIALLY after last night's episode.

    Are viewers supposed to start feeling sympathy for him??? Or at least understand him??

    Also, I hate to say it but it was dumb that Sawyer avoided getting shot...apparently those attackers are ex-military and were damn good shots, as was proven with the red coats.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

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    nfanel wrote:
    i am undecided about him. just when i started to pity him over alex, he had that manipulative smirk when he was walking away from sayid and threatened to go after penny. :mad:
    He's proven over and over again that he's evil, manipulative, and just downright dirty (and not in a good way). His own daughter warned people about him.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

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    AmentsChick wrote:
    Oh and as I stated to a couple friends about last night's episode:

    I *REFUSE* to see Ben as anything other than a complete machiavellian character. He's horrible.

    I still don't think of Ben as the total bad guy. He's just the guy who was in total control of the situation until they shot Alex. I think that may have been one of if not the first real emotional moments for Ben and not just something that was part of a bigger plan. I just want to know what the heck turned him from a quiet kid into the mind controlling person he is now.

    Btw, I just imdb'd him. Did you know Michael Emerson is 53? I never would have guessed that.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
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    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
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    (Sorry for the multiple posts, I am just now catching up on the thread.)
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

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    Solat13 wrote:
    I still don't think of Ben as the total bad guy. He's just the guy who was in total control of the situation until they shot Alex. I think that may have been one of if not the first real emotional moments for Ben and not just something that was part of a bigger plan. I just want to know what the heck turned him from a quiet kid into the mind controlling person he is now.

    Btw, I just imdb'd him. Did you know Michael Emerson is 53? I never would have guessed that.

    TPTB have stated that he is a "total bad guy". LOL! YOU'RE the one who told me that! LOL!
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

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    Poncier wrote:
    Pretty good episode.
    So...did Benry actually kill Nadia and convince Sayid that the Widmore henchman did it so Sayid would help him get to Widmore?

    Why did Benry have to chech and be sure it was 2005 at the hotel in Tunisia?(another time travel issue related to the island)

    Is Desmond gonna end up killing Benry to save Penny?

    I do think Ben killed Nadia. Here's what I think is going to happen.
    Ben, now completely trusting of and reliant on Sayid will enlist his help in trying to kill Penelope. Once Sayid relates Nadia's death to Charles Whitmore, he will likely agree to it, given the mental state he's in.

    But I think he will come to his senses and realize that he is about to do to Desmond (who he's now bonding with on the ship) the exact thing that was done to him. He will remember his loathing and mistrust for Ben, figure out that he's been used this whole time, and off Benjamin Linus instead.

    And the funeral that only Jack went to will be that of Benjamin Linus; slayed by Sayid. Booyah!



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