Lost: Season 4 (no spoilers)

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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Also, I hate to say it but it was dumb that Sawyer avoided getting shot...apparently those attackers are ex-military and were damn good shots, as was proven with the red coats.

    I totally agree with you on that one. I know they are trying to make Sawyer heroic, but that was a little over the top him living while returning fire and three red shirts being shot in what - like ten seconds.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Lukin66
    Lukin66 Posts: 3,063
    and him warning people not to come out of their houses and them following each other like lemmings, lol
    deep, deep blue of the morning
    gets to me every time
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    GoingToLukins wrote:
    I do think Ben killed Nadia. Here's what I think is going to happen.
    Ben, now completely trusting of and reliant on Sayid will enlist his help in trying to kill Penelope. Once Sayid relates Nadia's death to Charles Whitmore, he will likely agree to it, given the mental state he's in.

    But I think he will come to his senses and realize that he is about to do to Desmond (who he's now bonding with on the ship) the exact thing that was done to him. He will remember his loathing and mistrust for Ben, figure out that he's been used this whole time, and off Benjamin Linus instead.

    And the funeral that only Jack went to will be that of Benjamin Linus; slayed by Sayid. Booyah!

    I hope you're right. I just can't even imagine Sayid killing Des's girl.


    Oh also, nfanel and I were talking about the similarity between Sayid's grief/anger and Aniken Skywalker.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Poncier wrote:
    It certainly appears Benry controls it...or he put in a call to Jacob on the batphone and Jake released it.
    I sat here for a minute going, "Who the hell is Jake?" LOL! DOH!!! LOL!
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • GoingToLukins
    GoingToLukins Posts: 232
    Sayid will not kill Penelope. It will only make him realize he must kill Ben.

    BTW, the look on Ben's face when Alex was killed? Priceless. I am going to make it my wallpaper



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  • Lukin66
    Lukin66 Posts: 3,063
    pjsteelerfan wrote:
    It was interesting to see that the smoke monster can be controlled, sort of, by whoever unleashes it. Or by Ben maybe.
    I was wondering about this....it seems that Ben controls the smoke monster. He seemed utterly unperturbed as he walked straight towards it to say goodbye to Alex. Even when the soldier was running toward him, he showed no concern when it reached out and grabbed him. This leads me to wonder if he initiated the smoke monster attacks on the beach folk all through the first season (maybe to keep them dogged and tired while he was picking them off and plotting to steal Claire :p)
    deep, deep blue of the morning
    gets to me every time
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    harrymanback wrote:
    ... or how a picnic table provided protection against the bullets.

    Well said! I thought that was totally lame.


    Also, I am a bit confused and need some clarification. Didn't about half the "losties" go with Locke???? 3 were killed, right? (or are we assuming more were??)

    After they ended up fleeing the only ones who remained were Locke, Sawyer, Hurley, Claire, Aaron, Miles and Ben. Now, what happened to the rest? Were they just left for dead??? We didn't see a ton of bodies laying around? I don't get it.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    Solat13 wrote:
    Do you think we'll ever get a Rousseau flashback now that she is officially dead?
    Ahh..but is she officially dead?
    She took one shot to the abdomen, potentially missing major organs...she could well resurface.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    GoingToLukins wrote:
    Sayid will not kill Penelope. It will only make him realize he must kill Ben.

    I don't think so. Remember a couple episodes ago...Sayid becomes a "hitman" for Ben. In last night's episode, after killing Baldy, Sayid asks Ben, "Who's next?" So, in essence that's when Sayid begins working for Ben. (Right???)
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Lukin66
    Lukin66 Posts: 3,063
    Poncier wrote:
    Ahh..but is she officially dead?
    She took one shot to the abdomen, potentially missing major organs...she could well resurface.
    I would lay money that she reappears soon.
    deep, deep blue of the morning
    gets to me every time
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Poncier wrote:
    Ahh..but is she officially dead?
    She took one shot to the abdomen, potentially missing major organs...she could well resurface.

    Good point, Poncier! I mean, the island has crazy healing properties.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Lukin66 wrote:
    I was wondering about this....it seems that Ben controls the smoke monster. He seemed utterly unperturbed as he walked straight towards it to say goodbye to Alex. Even when the soldier was running toward him, he showed no concern when it reached out and grabbed him. This leads me to wonder if he initiated the smoke monster attacks on the beach folk all through the first season (maybe to keep them dogged and tired while he was picking them off and plotting to steal Claire :p)
    Woah...really smart thinking Lukin! That hadn't even occured to me!!!!!! Has Ben been behind (woah, now that's an alliteration) Smokey the whole time?? Then again, Ben has wanted to keep Locke alive since he's "On the list" so he wouldn't have sent Smokey after Locke, right? :confused:
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    AmentsChick wrote:
    damn good shots, as was proven with the red coats.
    Sorry...had to do it:
    Red shirt

    Red Coat

    Mixing American history with Star Trek is dangerous. :D
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Poncier wrote:
    Ahh..but is she officially dead?
    She took one shot to the abdomen, potentially missing major organs...she could well resurface.

    I was just going by what Alex said last night before she died.

    Of course she could still be alive, I mean Locke has survived a shot in the gut as well.

    My guess is Rousseau is nearly dead sort of how Naomi was nearly dead and somehow is involved in the rest of the season.

    Also, AC according to lostpedia - only 4 red shirts joined Team Locke and three are now presumed dead. The only red shirt left is Steve. But who knows where he is now.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    AmentsChick wrote:
    I don't think so. Remember a couple episodes ago...Sayid becomes a "hitman" for Ben. In last night's episode, after killing Baldy, Sayid asks Ben, "Who's next?" So, in essence that's when Sayid begins working for Ben. (Right???)
    Yeah this was the beginning of Sayid's employment in the Benry Gale Linus Van Pelt hitman company.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    GoingToLukins wrote:
    BTW, the look on Ben's face when Alex was killed? Priceless. I am going to make it my wallpaper

    LOL! Funny!! :D
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    AmentsChick wrote:
    I don't think so. Remember a couple episodes ago...Sayid becomes a "hitman" for Ben. In last night's episode, after killing Baldy, Sayid asks Ben, "Who's next?" So, in essence that's when Sayid begins working for Ben. (Right???)

    Yep, that's when I thought Sayid and Ben's unlikely partnership began as well.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Poncier wrote:
    Sorry...had to do it:
    Red shirt

    Red Coat

    Mixing American history with Star Trek is dangerous. :D

    pfft...you're right. Good thing I'm going to Philly in June...maybe I can actually learn some American history.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Lukin66
    Lukin66 Posts: 3,063
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Woah...really smart thinking Luckin! That hadn't even occured to me!!!!!! Has Ben been behind (woah, now that's an alliteration) Smokey the whole time?? Then again, Ben has wanted to keep Locke alive since he's "On the list" so he wouldn't have sent Smokey after Locke, right? :confused:
    The smoke monster didn't harm Locke, I think he may have sent it after him to inspire Locke's belief about the supernatural powers of the Island and ultimately cause the divide between the beach survivors (also, a very nifty way to deliver Locke into his hands)
    deep, deep blue of the morning
    gets to me every time
  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Woah...really smart thinking Luckin! That hadn't even occured to me!!!!!! Has Ben been behind (woah, now that's an alliteration) Smokey the whole time?? Then again, Ben has wanted to keep Locke alive since he's "On the list" so he wouldn't have sent Smokey after Locke, right? :confused:
    i was wondering that, too. guess it wasn't you i said it to...lol. so that means ben killed eko, too? smokey is weird.

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