Lost: Season 4 (no spoilers)

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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    That is a good way of describing that episode....wow.

    Yeah, they came out firing after the break tonight.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Solat13 wrote:
    Yeah, they came out firing after the break tonight.

    No doubt.....loved it.....great episode....
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Woo hoo! First time I watched Lost live! :D

    Great episode!
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    sorry Luke
    that was pretty frigging intense

    So who caused the crash Ben or Charles?

    :)
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    wow. one of the all time greats.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Death....destruction....and mayhem...can't go wrong with that. :D


    Great show...once again, more questions than answers.
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  • Lukin66
    Lukin66 Posts: 3,063
    Holy Fucking Hell!!!!
    deep, deep blue of the morning
    gets to me every time
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    Pretty good episode.
    So...did Benry actually kill Nadia and convince Sayid that the Widmore henchman did it so Sayid would help him get to Widmore?

    Why did Benry have to chech and be sure it was 2005 at the hotel in Tunisia?(another time travel issue related to the island)

    Is Desmond gonna end up killing Benry to save Penny?

    Why can't Benry kill Widmore...assume its like Michael can't kill himself?

    Why do they kill off the hot chicks (Alex), are the writers all gay men?

    I knew when Jack said "come here Bernard", and we didn't see anything further with them that Bernard was deciphering the morse code...nice to se Bernie become a major factor.

    Sawyer is becoming more and more the hero...loved what he said to Locke about Hurley, "you harm one hair on his curly head and I'll kill you".

    Damn that was good stuff, almost made it worth waiting over a month.

    So how soon till we see Jacob again?
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    I like that they showed some emotion from Ben, almost made him seem human.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    Poncier wrote:
    Pretty good episode.
    So...did Benry actually kill Nadia and convince Sayid that the Widmore henchman did it so Sayid would help him get to Widmore?

    Why did Benry have to chech and be sure it was 2005 at the hotel in Tunisia?(another time travel issue related to the island)

    Is Desmond gonna end up killing Benry to save Penny?

    Why can't Benry kill Widmore...assume its like Michael can't kill himself?

    Why do they kill off the hot chicks (Alex), are the writers all gay men?

    I knew when Jack said "come here Bernard", and we didn't see anything further with them that Bernard was deciphering the morse code...nice to se Bernie become a major factor.

    Sawyer is becoming more and more the hero...loved what he said to Locke about Hurley, "you harm one hair on his curly head and I'll kill you".

    Damn that was good stuff, almost made it worth waiting over a month.

    So how soon till we see Jacob again?
    i can't decide if ben really is the good guy in all of this. but now they're toying with our emotions by threatening penny. first they kill the sayid/nadia and charlie/claire love stories, now they're messing with our penny/desmond emotions. moral of the story: get in a happy relationship and you're going to be killed.

    i was wondering why benry couldn't kill charles... i thought it was more like some kind of game they had going. some really effed up game where they can't kill each others' family members but anything/one else is fair game?? that scene was bizarre.

    similar to the time issue, how did benry get dropped in the middle of the sahara desert?

    since we know jack survives the whole buildup of him being sick next week isn't all that captivating.

    we can't see jacob soon enough. ;)

    sawyer's line about hurley's curly head was my favorite line of the night. :)

    i wish i had my own protective smoke monster. that was pretty bad@ss.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    nfanel wrote:
    since we know jack survives the whole buildup of him being sick next week isn't all that captivating.
    The only drama is does he perform an appendectomy on himself since he's the only suregon on the island.

    And does he scream while he's in pain, "My appendix burst Bailey, my appendix!!!"
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    It was interesting to see that the smoke monster can be controlled, sort of, by whoever unleashes it. Or by Ben maybe.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    Poncier wrote:
    The only drama is does he perform an appendectomy on himself since he's the only suregon on the island.

    And does he scream while he's in pain, "My appendix burst Bailey, my appendix!!!"
    lol. :D "i can't eat crackers, kate, i have a burst appendix!!"
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    nfanel wrote:
    i can't decide if ben really is the good guy in all of this. but now they're toying with our emotions by threatening penny. first they kill the sayid/nadia and charlie/claire love stories, now they're messing with our penny/desmond emotions. moral of the story: get in a happy relationship and you're going to be killed.

    i was wondering why benry couldn't kill charles... i thought it was more like some kind of game they had going. some really effed up game where they can't kill each others' family members but anything/one else is fair game?? that scene was bizarre.

    Don't forget about Karl/Alex. Those lovestruck teenagers are on the big island in the sky now.

    I kind of took it as something out of a mafia movie - like no matter how morally despicable mobsters may seem to the regular world - they always observe a code among themselves. In the Godfather for example, Michael was not a part of the "family" originally - he was an "innocent" so he was off limits.

    So in this way, the game is a battle of wills between Benry and Charles and each uses all the resources they have at their disposal, but once someone crosses the rules - it changes the game forever. Ben doesn't want to kill Charles until he feels the pain he felt over losing Alex.

    The other thing I took from that scene is that since it took place in the future, that somehow all other advances by Widmore onto the island fail because he is still searching for the Island in 2005.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    pjsteelerfan wrote:
    It was interesting to see that the smoke monster can be controlled, sort of, by whoever unleashes it. Or by Ben maybe.
    and locke: "you told me you didn't know what the black smoke was"
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    pjsteelerfan wrote:
    It was interesting to see that the smoke monster can be controlled, sort of, by whoever unleashes it. Or by Ben maybe.
    It certainly appears Benry controls it...or he put in a call to Jacob on the batphone and Jake released it.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Do you think we'll ever get a Rousseau flashback now that she is officially dead?

    There is still so much about her we really don't know for her to be off the show permanently.

    Also do you think we'll get a flashback at some point of Sayid and Nadia reuniting?
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    wow.. what a way to start off the 2nd half of the season. Couldn't concentrate much after the Flyers loss but a great episode... have to go back and watch it again today, hopefully its on my DVR still.
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  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Solat13 wrote:
    Do you think we'll ever get a Rousseau flashback now that she is officially dead?

    There is still so much about her we really don't know for her to be off the show permanently.

    Also do you think we'll get a flashback at some point of Sayid and Nadia reuniting?

    I'm really sorry that Rousseau is dead. I have wanted to know her back story since we first met her. She was such an interesting character. I was really upset when Alex got shot in the head. It was a shock. I was NOT expecting that.

    I'm so glad that Sawyer is turning out to be the hero. He went to save Claire. He was worried about Hugo. What a guy! I'm just trying to figure out how he and Claire got stuck on the island (assuming they are not dead). We now know that Henry did not get off the island with the Oceanic Six because Sayid asked him how he got off the island.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    chromiam wrote:
    wow.. what a way to start off the 2nd half of the season. Couldn't concentrate much after the Flyers loss but a great episode... have to go back and watch it again today, hopefully its on my DVR still.

    I agree. Great episode! The only weak part for me and I understand why they did it was the whole Sawyer running with the gun thing and the killing of the three red shirts.

    You would think that the special teams force would have shot the guy with the gun first instead of the three unarmed people. I understand trying to depict Sawyer as taking more of a heroic turn of events, but that was just not all that believable in my opinion.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13

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