Guns

jeffbr wrote:

So you're agreeing that someone who owns a gun deserves to get shot with it? Classy!

Smooth! Keep digging!

I'll help you out though - OP was saying the opposite - if you choose to break into someone's house than you deserve to get shot.

Rygar wrote:

Smooth! Keep digging!

I'll help you out though - OP was saying the opposite - if you choose to break into someone's house than you deserve to get shot.

Ahh, I completely misread it then. I have heard the argument so often that having a gun in the house will lead one to be shot with their own gun, and read the original post that it would serve them right.

My apologies to the OP and to Rygar for misunderstanding.

Cuntified C wrote:

I hate guns, OK?
I don't think they should be owned, for any purpose whatsoever. They are just designed to maim, kill and hurt people so I would never own or even touch one if I didn't have to. Although I can understand people having them to protect themselves if someone breaks into your appartment or tries to attack them. If you choose to do something like that then it serves you right if you end up with a bullet in your ass is how I feel sometimes....

I still don't think guns should be owned or kept in households, especially if there are children living there as well.

Do you think it is a good idea to own a gun?

Sorry, but I can't agree with you. I own many guns and am responsible and legally allowed to own them. I think guns are a big reason you can live the way you live, FREE. Wars have been fought for hundreds of years in this country using guns and the men who fought with them won our freedom. Police have guns and allow you to sleep at night knowing that they are patrolling the community. As for citizens owning them, why not? As long as they have passed all the requirements in their jurisdiction, I don't see the problem. Most times, you don't see legally armed citizens committing crimes. The people who possess firearms illegally are the most likely offenders of the law because it's harder to trace the weapon. I do agree with the last statement of yours. Anyone who committs burglary should be prepared for people like me who are not afraid to protect my family and my belongings.

but if you dont have guns, than the king of england could just show up at your door and start pushing you around. you dont want that, do you?

I, for one, hope this does not get moved to AMT. With that being said...



I dunno. Whenever I go to SC, I usually shoot some guns with my cousin. My main problem with guns is how easy they are to get and how extreme gun advocates refuse to acknowledge that they can, and have often proven to be a problem.

elmer wrote:

Absolutely.

Someone has to deal with the undead.

Don't even get me started.


Fuckin' zombies man....

so if guns get outlawed do you honestly think they will stop falling into the hands of criminals? of course not.

so where does that leave the law abiding citizen that wants to own one to protect himself & his family from the savage that will still have full access to these guns?

Cuntified C wrote:

I don't understand that at all. I don't own a gun at all, never will do and I like to think that I have all the freedom I want to do whatever I need and to live the way I wanna live.



And haven't they been used to oppress people unfairly as well. I'm sure they have. There have been wars which have been illegal or justified for imperialist reasons, and guns have been used as a part of that, I think...



Unless you are unfortunate enough to get caught in a crossfire...



I guess if someone is robbing your house, then defending yourself can be justified, but it also depends on the intentions of the gun owner themselves.



I agree with this.

Look, I respect your opinions. But it's easy to come up with obscure reasons why guns can be bad like getting caught in a police crossfire. I have to say that would be highly unlikely for most people since I don't see police shootouts anymore due to all the restrictions police have regarding rules of engagement. That's another reason we are not winning wars in the past 40 years or so, because government is restricting gun usage for police, military, and civilians. In my opinion, taking guns away from people who are law abiding citizens would mean a victory over a government trying to opress it's people.

singularity wrote:

a lot of people in this thread are saying they are against guns, but not many are listing reasons why.

it's one of those topics... either you are for it or against it. and i am not trying to start fights and fire people up, but what are YOUR exact reason for thinking guns should be outlawed?

if you have an opinion on the matter, you should be able to explain why.

I'm not for outlawing guns. But I am for tighter restrictions for gun ownership and more accountability when it comes to accidents with firearms. And it greatly irritates me when people bring up the second amendment and hide behind it as the end all, be all of the argument without discussing it intelligently and admitting that the situation does need to be looked at and fixed.