So, now that the Super Bowl is over, lets try this one more time....

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  • reversedarwinism
    reversedarwinism Posts: 1,151
    I automatically say Montana and Marino when I hear this question. I remember the 88 & 89 49ers. Those years convinced me it was Montana as a kid.

    Now I'd say Peyton and Brady are to that level. They're that good.

    My favorite is Aikman, he was damn good, but we did always have Emmitt too. Farve and Young were good too.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Bret Favre
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    tybird wrote:

    Terry Bradshaw has the same number of Super Bowl wins as Montana

    Bradshaw called his own plays as well and was one of the last qbs to do so.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    I would take Peyton over Montana.....hell, I would take Aikman over Montana and Young. Montana and Young were products of a system. If they are such great QB's, explain Kansas City and Tampa Bay.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Its Evolution Baby wrote:

    Brady having lost the Super Bowl is out of the debate imo.

    I don't agree with that at all. Brady is most likely going to retire with the most post season wins and highest post season winning percentage in history.

    He's 14-3 right now.

    Montana was 16-7
    Favre 12-10
    Peyton 7-7
    Elway 14-8
    Marino 8-10
    Bradshaw 14-5
    Aikman 11-5

    I'm not saying Brady is the greatest, but to leave him out of the competition when he didn't lose the game - completing 60% of your passes with no picks is not really a bad game - is a little ridiculous.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Solat13 wrote:
    I don't agree with that at all. Brady is most likely going to retire with the most post season wins and highest post season winning percentage in history.

    He's 14-3 right now.

    Montana was 16-7
    Favre 12-10
    Peyton 7-7
    Elway 14-8
    Marino 8-10
    Bradshaw 14-5
    Aikman 11-5

    I'm not saying Brady is the greatest, but to leave him out of the competition when he didn't lost a game - completing 60% of your passes with no picks is not really a bad game - is a little ridiculous.
    Great point.....it's not held against either Elway's or Favre's record that they came up short in a Super Bowl (or three.)

    If I had to pick a QB to win one game.....I would consider Elway, Favre or Brady very high on the list.
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  • smg9779
    smg9779 Posts: 235
    tybird wrote:
    I would take Peyton over Montana.....hell, I would take Aikman over Montana and Young. Montana and Young were products of a system. If they are such great QB's, explain Kansas City and Tampa Bay.

    You don't think having the game's all time leading rusher had anything to do with Aikman's success?
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  • reversedarwinism
    reversedarwinism Posts: 1,151
    smg9779 wrote:
    You don't think having the game's all time leading rusher had anything to do with Aikman's success?

    I watched all his games, pretty much. He was better than farve and young. We had Emmitt and none of the others have anything close. I wonder how Aikman would have done in a different system.

    Farve was mentioned. He is a great football player, no doubt. But I've seen him ruin the game for his team way too many times. Of course, I've seen him play Dallas more than anybody else ;)
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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    smg9779 wrote:
    You don't think having the game's all time leading rusher had anything to do with Aikman's success?
    Maybe a little bit??? ;)
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  • gabers
    gabers Posts: 2,787
    I'll go with Joe Montana followed very closely by Tom Brady. Those 80's 49'ers teams were the greatest, in my opinion, and he was the top reason why. Mr. Clutch personified.
  • Its Evolution Baby
    Its Evolution Baby Posts: 849
    tybird wrote:
    I would take Peyton over Montana.....hell, I would take Aikman over Montana and Young. Montana and Young were products of a system. If they are such great QB's, explain Kansas City and Tampa Bay.

    First of all Young was a young QB in TB and had to learn how to play. No QB has been ever sucessfull in TB. Even when they won the Super Bowl it was with Brad Johnson and they got rid of him soon after.

    Montana was able to go to the playoffs twice in KC. They even reached the AFC championship game in the twilight of his career. This was after the Niners basically thought he was thru and released him. Yet he still had some great moments. Defeating Elway on Monday Night Footballs Greatest Game ever comes to mind. BTW Joe always made Elway and Marino his bitch when they played so he should win the debate over these guys by default.
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  • Its Evolution Baby
    Its Evolution Baby Posts: 849
    Solat13 wrote:
    I don't agree with that at all. Brady is most likely going to retire with the most post season wins and highest post season winning percentage in history.

    He's 14-3 right now.

    Montana was 16-7
    Favre 12-10
    Peyton 7-7
    Elway 14-8
    Marino 8-10
    Bradshaw 14-5
    Aikman 11-5

    I'm not saying Brady is the greatest, but to leave him out of the competition when he didn't lose the game - completing 60% of your passes with no picks is not really a bad game - is a little ridiculous.

    I'm not saying Brady isn't a top 5 QB but Joe was not only statistically great he always got it done in the biggest game. Joe had 3 Super Bowl MVP's and he almost won it in 88 but Jerry Rice was amazing in that game.

    When it comes down to it Brady and Montana are probably the best QB's I'VE seen play. (I was born 1980) So if I am debating those two I put Joe in front of Brady for never failing when it mattered the most. I was starting to believe Brady was g.o.a.t until Sunday. In fact as soon as the Giants won I called my fellow Niner fans and said I will never consider Brady better then Joe now!!!
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