Appetite Suppressants

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  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    GraySaturday wrote:
    You know.. I've read somewhere that when you feel hungry, drink a big glass of water. Sometimes hunger is confused in the body with being thirsty. If you are still hungry 10-15 mins after the water, then have some plain almonds, or a piece of fruit.

    I totally don't mean this in a bitchy way or anything, so please don't take it that way, but.. are you concerned with snacking, or cutting down on meals? I had a real hard time with snacking when I first started to get into shape, and I really had to use extreme self control to break the snaking habit. Once you go 21 days with a new routine, its proven that it will stick with you. I never snack anymore because I just don't desire it. I'd try everything you can naturally, before you seek out an outside source. You'd be surprised at how strong your will power can really be, if you are committed to something. I'd be super careful if you are trying to cut down on meal intake though. You won't lose weight, if you don't eat. You'll just screw your metabolism.


    nah..that's not bitchy at all..that's a legitimate question. Yeah, Im more concerned about snacking. I am pretty good usually with disciplining myself but certain times it's harder. Just in general lately it's been hard. I know pills even though they are natural aren't the answer..Im just trying it.
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  • CityMouse
    CityMouse Posts: 1,010
    libragirl wrote:
    Ladies or men...do you take them. I exercise and I am in pretty good shape but I need extra help so I decided to get these herbal supplements. I don't think they are dangerous though.

    I don't think they're dangerous either, however,
    I have tried different ones in the past. they usually just make me feel a little sick to my stomach and don't do much in terms of surpressing my appetite.
    DO NOT take supplements that also claim to boost your metabolism-all they do is speed up your heart rate. you can get the same effect from a cup of coffee.

    Also...

    Surpressing your appetite unnaturally COULD make you "unlearn" how to listen to your body's natural hunger instincts. If one is hungry, one should eat. If You are buring more calories, you need to replace more calories. AND if you DO surpress your appetite and don't eat enough over a long period of time you can screw up you metabolism royally and then you'll gain weight very easily if you go back to eating normally (I learned this the hard way).
  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    CityMouse wrote:
    Surpressing your appetite unnaturally COULD make you "unlearn" how to listen to your body's natural hunger instincts. If one is hungry, one should eat. If You are buring more calories, you need to replace more calories. AND if you DO surpress your appetite and don't eat enough over a long period of time you can screw up you metabolism royally and then you'll gain weight very easily if you go back to eating normally (I learned this the hard way).

    yeah that's the only thing Im worried about...Im trying not to take them all the time. I try to just use them to curb snacking.
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    libragirl wrote:
    yeah that's the only thing Im worried about...Im trying not to take them all the time. I try to just use them to curb snacking.

    snacking is good ... as long as they aren't twinkies or doritos ... almonds, carrots, raspberries - things like that are good ...
  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    polaris wrote:
    snacking is good ... as long as they aren't twinkies or doritos ... almonds, carrots, raspberries - things like that are good ...

    yeah when i do snack i try to eat wasa crackers or almonds...but i rather have doritos or twinkies :D
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  • sennin
    sennin Posts: 2,146
    Chew gum.....recent studies say that it suppresses appetite.
  • mookie blaylock 10
    mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
    Saturnal wrote:
    The "more meals = higher metabolic rate" thing is a myth imo. So is "carb-tapering throughout the day = better for weight control". I've never seen any serious studies that support these ideas, and my own experiments with them showed me that they have no effect. Eating more frequently helps with hunger control, but that's it. I eat cottage cheese & chocolate ice cream every night right before bed, and I still lose fat at the same rate as I did when I was eating cc & broccoli. Having said that, it doesn't make sense to load up on carbs before bed, but that's only because you don't need the energy at that time....has nothing to do with weight control. When all is said and done, weight control is about total calories, overall macro-nutrient ratios for the day (or whatever time period you wanna gauge it by), and consistency with the diet & exercise.

    things work differently for different people, obviously, and that's why you have play with it for a bit at the beginning to find out what's right for you. what i mentioned before...these were the plans i put many of my friends on when i was in university and they all had immediate positive results. 100% positive results with several people who asked me to help them get their diets and training straight over several years. i have not been training for the last couple of years, unfortunately, but before that i was training for about fourteen years. i don't mean to sound pompous, but on this subject i know what i'm talking about.

    more, smaller meals do work. eating fewer carbs later in the day does work. making sure your carbs are complex and not simple is another thing to look for. also your body can take up to about 60% more calories after a good workout than it normally can and many people make the mistake of just having a piece of fruit or something like that. it doesn't do anything but wear down your body and not repair it. i used to make that mistake when i first started. i would spend way too long in the gym and then not reapir my body with the proper foods and rest. i would train body parts too often in a week. once a week for each part is enough (except abs). running is another thing i used to try to get my "students" to stay away from. you can burn virtually the same amount of calories by walking as you do by running, but you don't get the cardiovascular workout. unless you're training for a marathon...walk. it's easier on your body.

    you bring up another good point...weight. too often people look at the scale or the number on the scale and feel that they "should" be a certain weight. throw the scale out the window. it's meaningless. that's another thing that too many of us have grown up not understanding.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    libragirl wrote:
    yeah when i do snack i try to eat wasa crackers or almonds...but i rather have doritos or twinkies :D

    well ... the payoff for eating well overall is that you can indulge in foods like that without it being so bad ... :)
  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    mookie blaylock 10 wrote:

    you bring up another good point...weight. too often people look at the scale or the number on the scale and feel that they "should" be a certain weight. throw the scale out the window. it's meaningless. that's another thing that too many of us have grown up not understanding.

    I don't even bother weighing myself anymore. I used to weigh myself on that scale at GNC and would freak if I gained weight....no scales for me.
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  • PJSerf
    PJSerf Posts: 637
    mookie blaylock 10 wrote:
    things work differently for different people, obviously, and that's why you have play with it for a bit at the beginning to find out what's right for you. what i mentioned before...these were the plans i put many of my friends on when i was in university and they all had immediate positive results. 100% positive results with several people who asked me to help them get their diets and training straight over several years. i have not been training for the last couple of years, unfortunately, but before that i was training for about fourteen years. i don't mean to sound pompous, but on this subject i know what i'm talking about.

    more, smaller meals do work. eating fewer carbs later in the day does work. making sure your carbs are complex and not simple is another thing to look for. also your body can take up to about 60% more calories after a good workout than it normally can and many people make the mistake of just having a piece of fruit or something like that. it doesn't do anything but wear down your body and not repair it. i used to make that mistake when i first started. i would spend way too long in the gym and then not reapir my body with the proper foods and rest. i would train body parts too often in a week. once a week for each part is enough (except abs). running is another thing i used to try to get my "students" to stay away from. you can burn virtually the same amount of calories by walking as you do by running, but you don't get the cardiovascular workout. unless you're training for a marathon...walk. it's easier on your body.

    you bring up another good point...weight. too often people look at the scale or the number on the scale and feel that they "should" be a certain weight. throw the scale out the window. it's meaningless. that's another thing that too many of us have grown up not understanding.

    Thanks for your helpful advice. As I too, am looking to change my eating habits. I understand that diets are not the way to go, and you need to learn to adjust your eating habits for the long term.
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    mookie blaylock 10 wrote:
    things work differently for different people, obviously, and that's why you have play with it for a bit at the beginning to find out what's right for you. what i mentioned before...these were the plans i put many of my friends on when i was in university and they all had immediate positive results. 100% positive results with several people who asked me to help them get their diets and training straight over several years. i have not been training for the last couple of years, unfortunately, but before that i was training for about fourteen years. i don't mean to sound pompous, but on this subject i know what i'm talking about.

    more, smaller meals do work. eating fewer carbs later in the day does work. making sure your carbs are complex and not simple is another thing to look for. also your body can take up to about 60% more calories after a good workout than it normally can and many people make the mistake of just having a piece of fruit or something like that. it doesn't do anything but wear down your body and not repair it. i used to make that mistake when i first started. i would spend way too long in the gym and then not reapir my body with the proper foods and rest. i would train body parts too often in a week. once a week for each part is enough (except abs). running is another thing i used to try to get my "students" to stay away from. you can burn virtually the same amount of calories by walking as you do by running, but you don't get the cardiovascular workout. unless you're training for a marathon...walk. it's easier on your body.

    you bring up another good point...weight. too often people look at the scale or the number on the scale and feel that they "should" be a certain weight. throw the scale out the window. it's meaningless. that's another thing that too many of us have grown up not understanding.
    I think more frequent, smaller meals "works"...just not in the way you described. No doubt it's a very very common belief in the bb world that it boosts metabolism, but again...no science to back it. Personally, I eat 6-7 small meals each day, but it's for hunger control and to get more consistent energy throughout the day. When I really started testing it out, it just became obvious that with respect to fat loss, it doesn't matter if I eat 4 meals a day or 8 meals a day...if I'm getting the same amount of calories and macros, I lose fat at the same rate.

    I also think tapering carbs is a sensible thing to do, but again, not with respect to weight control. Carbs are non-essential, and the only reason to eat them is for energy. So it makes sense to start your day off with lots after an overnight fast, and have fewer in the evening before you go to bed since you don't need the extra energy then. But the whole idea of carbs being bad before bed just isn't workin' for me. I eat ice cream literally 10 minutes before bed, and somehow I'm able to still lose fat. I think that goes back to thinking about what really matters here: total calories and macros. Nutrient timing is important, especially if you lift seriously, but it's a very distant 3rd from the other two.

    I def agree with ya on people spending waaay too much time in the gym and goin' cardio-crazy tho. Unless you wanna get really jacked and/or sub 10% body-fat, you don't need to kill yourself lifting/running.
  • CityMouse
    CityMouse Posts: 1,010
    libragirl wrote:
    I don't even bother weighing myself anymore. I used to weigh myself on that scale at GNC and would freak if I gained weight....no scales for me.

    me either. I used to weigh myself every day and then starve for a day is I was up a half pound in water weight. I went to the doctor yesterday and the nurse insisted on weighing me. I argued with her because I have read from credible sources that if you don't want to be weighed at the doctor you don't have to be (if you are otherwise healthy, there's no reason the doctor needs your weight). She finally let me stand on the scale backwards.
  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    CityMouse wrote:
    me either. I used to weigh myself every day and then starve for a day is I was up a half pound in water weight. I went to the doctor yesterday and the nurse insisted on weighing me. I argued with her because I have read from credible sources that if you don't want to be weighed at the doctor you don't have to be (if you are otherwise healthy, there's no reason the doctor needs your weight). She finally let me stand on the scale backwards.

    I did not know that...well i guess when i go to the doctor(it's so infrequent) I don't really mind...I was just getting into the habit of weighing myself every six months. When I was first exercising and trying to shed weight I guess it was okay but then I was just getting compulsive..now I just go by how my clothes fit. I just think your body wants to be a certain size. Im a 6 and that's good with me. Im muscular and have an athletic built...im never gonna be a waif.
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  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    mookie blaylock 10 wrote:
    agreed. stb and a couple of other posters above had the right idea as well. :)

    eating less is not necessarily going to make you lose the weight you want to lose. it will merely slow down your metabolism. eating sensible portions for meals...more than the "standard" three meals a day and some healthy snacks like fruit, yogurt, unsalted / unbuttered popcorn, etc. will help get your metabolic rate to the point where it needs to be, or where you want it to be.

    if you can, never skip breakfast. have a protein and a complex carb for every meal, maybe five sensible portions...whatever works for you. have your heavier carbs earlier in the day if you want them...like pasta. lower your carb intake as the day goes on and don't fill up with carbs before bed. a protein of some sort will help before bed. if you feel hungrier (is that a word? :D) then snack on some leafy green veggies at night or have a small amount of something like granola that will expand in your stomach and make you feel full.

    it's really too bad that many of us grew up being taught to eat "three square meals a day" and that eating less is good to lose weight. it's totally false. eating more and more often, but eating the right things is the way to go. once your metabolism increases to a good point, you'd be surprised how easily your body will burn off treats like chocolate or foods like that.

    good luck, libragirl. :) stay away from things that keep your appetite down! your body needs those calories for fuel. make sure it's the right fuel and that you "fill up" more often. ;)

    Yeah Im trying to eat more protein, lean protein. I notice if i have a bagel in the morning Im starving by lunch time. Carbs are really my downfall..that's why i started taking the supplements, it said it curbs cravings for carbs..I haven't taken them so long..so Im not sure about that claim.

    Thanks for your advice and everyone else.
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  • Motown322
    Motown322 Posts: 465
    I usually just go outside and crank a heater or two... fills me right up. :D

    Seriously, though: chew some gum.
  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    Motown322 wrote:
    I usually just go outside and crank a heater or two... fills me right up. :D

    Seriously, though: chew some gum.

    Im not too sure what you mean by that...:confused:

    Yeah I tried gum and still do...it does help a lot but there is one side effect..GAS!
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  • brainofPJ
    brainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    a lot of these suppressants are over the counter which means nothing has been validated by the FDA. so the makers are at liberty to say what they want to to sell their product.

    oh and remember, "natural" does not always equal safe.


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  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    brainofPJ wrote:
    a lot of these suppressants are over the counter which means nothing has been validated by the FDA. so the makers are at liberty to say what they want to to sell their product.

    oh and remember, "natural" does not always equal safe.

    good to know..yeah you are right about natural thing not always being safe.
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  • given2fly78
    given2fly78 Posts: 404
    Try making whey protein shakes. They are super filling and help lose weight as well as gain lean muscle. I add whey protein w/ fat free plain yogurt, skim milk, a banana, frozen strawberries and blueberries. Sometimes some honey if I need it. Blend and it's super good. Filling and really makes a difference in weight loss IMO.

    Try and focus more on eating protein instead of carbs. Or eat good carbs, protein will fill you up faster and keep you full longer. Nosh on nuts (walnuts, almonds, macadamias) for a snack.

    Best appetite Suppressants are natural foods. And drink plenty of h20! I'd shy away from anything that comes in a pill form. Better safe than sorry. I've lost almost 50 lbs and kept it off. My best advice is eat natural, not processed. The only real processed foods I eat are Clif Bars. And I can honestly say I'm in the best shape EVER (and my Dr. agrees!).
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  • mookie blaylock 10
    mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
    given2fly78 wrote:
    Try making whey protein shakes. They are super filling and help lose weight as well as gain lean muscle. I add whey protein w/ fat free plain yogurt, skim milk, a banana, frozen strawberries and blueberries. Sometimes some honey if I need it. Blend and it's super good. Filling and really makes a difference in weight loss IMO.

    Try and focus more on eating protein instead of carbs. Or eat good carbs, protein will fill you up faster and keep you full longer. Nosh on nuts (walnuts, almonds, macadamias) for a snack.

    Best appetite Suppressants are natural foods. And drink plenty of h20! I'd shy away from anything that comes in a pill form. Better safe than sorry. I've lost almost 50 lbs and kept it off. My best advice is eat natural, not processed. The only real processed foods I eat are Clif Bars. And I can honestly say I'm in the best shape EVER (and my Dr. agrees!).

    good post, and good for you! :)

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