Appetite Suppressants

libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
edited July 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
Ladies or men...do you take them. I exercise and I am in pretty good shape but I need extra help so I decided to get these herbal supplements. I don't think they are dangerous though.
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  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    lol i have 1 ;)
  • pearljamjenpearljamjen Posts: 13,578
    I took them in high school. I played sports and was very active but was just fanatic about my weight. They helped yes, but the made me a class-A b*&ch, changed my personality and pissed off some friends, made things more tense between my mom and I. Also it made my heart beat super fast, kinda scary sometimes. BUT that could have just been a teenager's hormones/mood swings COMBINED with the diet pills. And instead of eating healthfully, I would completely skip meals too.

    So maybe they don't have those side effects if used properly? :confused:
  • GraySaturdayGraySaturday Posts: 2,878
    No, I'm scared to use any pills or herbs or anything.. I just feel like things seem okay and then sometimes they are pulled off the market for various health concerns.


    I just think of cottage cheese, and that cures me from wanting to eat. :p
  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    I admit Im a bit fanatical about my weight...I exercised for a while and then started incorporating pilates and really happy with how i look...but I have my italian genes..lol..so I saw these herbal pills and they said they were "safe" I only take one a day or whenever im getting carb cravings...

    I don't like cottage cheese at all GS...:p

    NYPJ....okay..what are you doing?
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  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    'I want to hurry home to you
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  • markymark550markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,174
    I just think of cottage cheese, and that cures me from wanting to eat. :p
    Dammit...I was ready for lunch, but now I lost my appetite just thinking about that nasty "food"



    In regards to the suppressants, just do a little research on them before you commit to taking them. You'll want to know what's in them (in case you're allergic to something in it) and the possible side effects. Just be informed about them before you start.
  • mdigenakismdigenakis Posts: 1,337
    Coffee and Tea worked for me. I lost 30 pounds in the fall. I'm sure stress helps as well.
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    mdigenakis wrote:
    Coffee and Tea worked for me. I lost 30 pounds in the fall. I'm sure stress helps as well.

    wow...I heard greentea burns calories..but you need to have 5 cups a day or something..I drink it but not that much.
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    you can fix cravings with diet ... generally - your cravings are either associated with a deficiency of some nutrients or possibly related to stress ...

    have some blueberries or a green smoothie and most of those cravings disappear ...
  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    polaris wrote:
    you can fix cravings with diet ... generally - your cravings are either associated with a deficiency of some nutrients or possibly related to stress ...

    have some blueberries or a green smoothie and most of those cravings disappear ...

    yeah i was thinking i may need to tweak my diet...maybe more fiber.
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    libragirl wrote:
    yeah i was thinking i may need to tweak my diet...maybe more fiber.

    nutrition/diet and stress are big components of your overall health and how you feel ... often diets such as south beach, weight watchers or whatever that focus on carbs or proteins don't encompass the overall picture ... which is far more complicated ...
  • GraySaturdayGraySaturday Posts: 2,878
    You know.. I've read somewhere that when you feel hungry, drink a big glass of water. Sometimes hunger is confused in the body with being thirsty. If you are still hungry 10-15 mins after the water, then have some plain almonds, or a piece of fruit.

    I totally don't mean this in a bitchy way or anything, so please don't take it that way, but.. are you concerned with snacking, or cutting down on meals? I had a real hard time with snacking when I first started to get into shape, and I really had to use extreme self control to break the snaking habit. Once you go 21 days with a new routine, its proven that it will stick with you. I never snack anymore because I just don't desire it. I'd try everything you can naturally, before you seek out an outside source. You'd be surprised at how strong your will power can really be, if you are committed to something. I'd be super careful if you are trying to cut down on meal intake though. You won't lose weight, if you don't eat. You'll just screw your metabolism.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    personally, i would never take em, whether they are regarded as 'safe' or not, simply b/c they don't actually deal with the root of your problem. unless you want to take them forever, i would think it's far healthier in the long run to alter your diet, your exercise, your relationship with food, your choices, etc....rather than take a pill to do that for you. just my 0.02.
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  • small town becksmall town beck Posts: 6,691
    You know.. I've read somewhere that when you feel hungry, drink a big glass of water. Sometimes hunger is confused in the body with being thirsty. If you are still hungry 10-15 mins after the water, then have some plain almonds, or a piece of fruit.

    I totally don't mean this in a bitchy way or anything, so please don't take it that way, but.. are you concerned with snacking, or cutting down on meals? I had a real hard time with snacking when I first started to get into shape, and I really had to use extreme self control to break the snaking habit. Once you go 21 days with a new routine, its proven that it will stick with you. I never snack anymore because I just don't desire it. I'd try everything you can naturally, before you seek out an outside source. You'd be surprised at how strong your will power can really be, if you are committed to something. I'd be super careful if you are trying to cut down on meal intake though. You won't lose weight, if you don't eat. You'll just screw your metabolism.


    I agree and I also think they are very dodgy. Be honest GS, you can't help but be bitchy :p
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    You know.. I've read somewhere that when you feel hungry, drink a big glass of water. Sometimes hunger is confused in the body with being thirsty. If you are still hungry 10-15 mins after the water, then have some plain almonds, or a piece of fruit.

    I totally don't mean this in a bitchy way or anything, so please don't take it that way, but.. are you concerned with snacking, or cutting down on meals? I had a real hard time with snacking when I first started to get into shape, and I really had to use extreme self control to break the snaking habit. Once you go 21 days with a new routine, its proven that it will stick with you. I never snack anymore because I just don't desire it. I'd try everything you can naturally, before you seek out an outside source. You'd be surprised at how strong your will power can really be, if you are committed to something. I'd be super careful if you are trying to cut down on meal intake though. You won't lose weight, if you don't eat. You'll just screw your metabolism.

    snacking is actually good for you ... better to eat more smaller meals in a day then large meals only several times a day ... it really depends on the type of snacks one eats as well ...
  • GraySaturdayGraySaturday Posts: 2,878
    polaris wrote:
    snacking is actually good for you ... better to eat more smaller meals in a day then large meals only several times a day ... it really depends on the type of snacks one eats as well ...


    there is a difference between meals and snacks in my mind. If you're gonna eat 6 small meals, or 3 bigger meals, those are your meals. However, anyone can still snack regardless of the meals you are eating. I am talking about a handful of chips here, a cookie there.. you know just a small thing between meals that doesn't seem like much, but it can really tack on a significant amount of calories.
  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    libragirl wrote:
    I need extra help
    This is only true for about .0001% of the population which has serious thyroid issues.

    Eat right and exercise. That's all you need. If you feel hungry, you're likely (a) not getting enough calories, (b) eating too infrequently, or (c) not getting enough fat in your diet.
  • polaris wrote:
    snacking is actually good for you ... better to eat more smaller meals in a day then large meals only several times a day ... it really depends on the type of snacks one eats as well ...

    agreed. stb and a couple of other posters above had the right idea as well. :)

    eating less is not necessarily going to make you lose the weight you want to lose. it will merely slow down your metabolism. eating sensible portions for meals...more than the "standard" three meals a day and some healthy snacks like fruit, yogurt, unsalted / unbuttered popcorn, etc. will help get your metabolic rate to the point where it needs to be, or where you want it to be.

    if you can, never skip breakfast. have a protein and a complex carb for every meal, maybe five sensible portions...whatever works for you. have your heavier carbs earlier in the day if you want them...like pasta. lower your carb intake as the day goes on and don't fill up with carbs before bed. a protein of some sort will help before bed. if you feel hungrier (is that a word? :D) then snack on some leafy green veggies at night or have a small amount of something like granola that will expand in your stomach and make you feel full.

    it's really too bad that many of us grew up being taught to eat "three square meals a day" and that eating less is good to lose weight. it's totally false. eating more and more often, but eating the right things is the way to go. once your metabolism increases to a good point, you'd be surprised how easily your body will burn off treats like chocolate or foods like that.

    good luck, libragirl. :) stay away from things that keep your appetite down! your body needs those calories for fuel. make sure it's the right fuel and that you "fill up" more often. ;)
  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    agreed. stb and a couple of other posters above had the right idea as well. :)

    eating less is not necessarily going to make you lose the weight you want to lose. it will merely slow down your metabolism. eating sensible portions for meals...more than the "standard" three meals a day and some healthy snacks like fruit, yogurt, unsalted / unbuttered popcorn, etc. will help get your metabolic rate to the point where it needs to be, or where you want it to be.

    if you can, never skip breakfast. have a protein and a complex carb for every meal, maybe five sensible portions...whatever works for you. have your heavier carbs earlier in the day if you want them...like pasta. lower your carb intake as the day goes on and don't fill up with carbs before bed. a protein of some sort will help before bed. if you feel hungrier (is that a word? :D) then snack on some leafy green veggies at night or have a small amount of something like granola that will expand in your stomach and make you feel full.

    it's really too bad that many of us grew up being taught to eat "three square meals a day" and that eating less is good to lose weight. it's totally false. eating more and more often, but eating the right things is the way to go. once your metabolism increases to a good point, you'd be surprised how easily your body will burn off treats like chocolate or foods like that.

    good luck, libragirl. :) stay away from things that keep your appetite down! your body needs those calories for fuel. make sure it's the right fuel and that you "fill up" more often. ;)
    The "more meals = higher metabolic rate" thing is a myth imo. So is "carb-tapering throughout the day = better for weight control". I've never seen any serious studies that support these ideas, and my own experiments with them showed me that they have no effect. Eating more frequently helps with hunger control, but that's it. I eat cottage cheese & chocolate ice cream every night right before bed, and I still lose fat at the same rate as I did when I was eating cc & broccoli. Having said that, it doesn't make sense to load up on carbs before bed, but that's only because you don't need the energy at that time....has nothing to do with weight control. When all is said and done, weight control is about total calories, overall macro-nutrient ratios for the day (or whatever time period you wanna gauge it by), and consistency with the diet & exercise.
  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    You know.. I've read somewhere that when you feel hungry, drink a big glass of water. Sometimes hunger is confused in the body with being thirsty. If you are still hungry 10-15 mins after the water, then have some plain almonds, or a piece of fruit.

    I totally don't mean this in a bitchy way or anything, so please don't take it that way, but.. are you concerned with snacking, or cutting down on meals? I had a real hard time with snacking when I first started to get into shape, and I really had to use extreme self control to break the snaking habit. Once you go 21 days with a new routine, its proven that it will stick with you. I never snack anymore because I just don't desire it. I'd try everything you can naturally, before you seek out an outside source. You'd be surprised at how strong your will power can really be, if you are committed to something. I'd be super careful if you are trying to cut down on meal intake though. You won't lose weight, if you don't eat. You'll just screw your metabolism.


    nah..that's not bitchy at all..that's a legitimate question. Yeah, Im more concerned about snacking. I am pretty good usually with disciplining myself but certain times it's harder. Just in general lately it's been hard. I know pills even though they are natural aren't the answer..Im just trying it.
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  • CityMouseCityMouse Posts: 1,010
    libragirl wrote:
    Ladies or men...do you take them. I exercise and I am in pretty good shape but I need extra help so I decided to get these herbal supplements. I don't think they are dangerous though.

    I don't think they're dangerous either, however,
    I have tried different ones in the past. they usually just make me feel a little sick to my stomach and don't do much in terms of surpressing my appetite.
    DO NOT take supplements that also claim to boost your metabolism-all they do is speed up your heart rate. you can get the same effect from a cup of coffee.

    Also...

    Surpressing your appetite unnaturally COULD make you "unlearn" how to listen to your body's natural hunger instincts. If one is hungry, one should eat. If You are buring more calories, you need to replace more calories. AND if you DO surpress your appetite and don't eat enough over a long period of time you can screw up you metabolism royally and then you'll gain weight very easily if you go back to eating normally (I learned this the hard way).
  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    CityMouse wrote:
    Surpressing your appetite unnaturally COULD make you "unlearn" how to listen to your body's natural hunger instincts. If one is hungry, one should eat. If You are buring more calories, you need to replace more calories. AND if you DO surpress your appetite and don't eat enough over a long period of time you can screw up you metabolism royally and then you'll gain weight very easily if you go back to eating normally (I learned this the hard way).

    yeah that's the only thing Im worried about...Im trying not to take them all the time. I try to just use them to curb snacking.
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    libragirl wrote:
    yeah that's the only thing Im worried about...Im trying not to take them all the time. I try to just use them to curb snacking.

    snacking is good ... as long as they aren't twinkies or doritos ... almonds, carrots, raspberries - things like that are good ...
  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    polaris wrote:
    snacking is good ... as long as they aren't twinkies or doritos ... almonds, carrots, raspberries - things like that are good ...

    yeah when i do snack i try to eat wasa crackers or almonds...but i rather have doritos or twinkies :D
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  • senninsennin Posts: 2,146
    Chew gum.....recent studies say that it suppresses appetite.
  • Saturnal wrote:
    The "more meals = higher metabolic rate" thing is a myth imo. So is "carb-tapering throughout the day = better for weight control". I've never seen any serious studies that support these ideas, and my own experiments with them showed me that they have no effect. Eating more frequently helps with hunger control, but that's it. I eat cottage cheese & chocolate ice cream every night right before bed, and I still lose fat at the same rate as I did when I was eating cc & broccoli. Having said that, it doesn't make sense to load up on carbs before bed, but that's only because you don't need the energy at that time....has nothing to do with weight control. When all is said and done, weight control is about total calories, overall macro-nutrient ratios for the day (or whatever time period you wanna gauge it by), and consistency with the diet & exercise.

    things work differently for different people, obviously, and that's why you have play with it for a bit at the beginning to find out what's right for you. what i mentioned before...these were the plans i put many of my friends on when i was in university and they all had immediate positive results. 100% positive results with several people who asked me to help them get their diets and training straight over several years. i have not been training for the last couple of years, unfortunately, but before that i was training for about fourteen years. i don't mean to sound pompous, but on this subject i know what i'm talking about.

    more, smaller meals do work. eating fewer carbs later in the day does work. making sure your carbs are complex and not simple is another thing to look for. also your body can take up to about 60% more calories after a good workout than it normally can and many people make the mistake of just having a piece of fruit or something like that. it doesn't do anything but wear down your body and not repair it. i used to make that mistake when i first started. i would spend way too long in the gym and then not reapir my body with the proper foods and rest. i would train body parts too often in a week. once a week for each part is enough (except abs). running is another thing i used to try to get my "students" to stay away from. you can burn virtually the same amount of calories by walking as you do by running, but you don't get the cardiovascular workout. unless you're training for a marathon...walk. it's easier on your body.

    you bring up another good point...weight. too often people look at the scale or the number on the scale and feel that they "should" be a certain weight. throw the scale out the window. it's meaningless. that's another thing that too many of us have grown up not understanding.
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    libragirl wrote:
    yeah when i do snack i try to eat wasa crackers or almonds...but i rather have doritos or twinkies :D

    well ... the payoff for eating well overall is that you can indulge in foods like that without it being so bad ... :)
  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632

    you bring up another good point...weight. too often people look at the scale or the number on the scale and feel that they "should" be a certain weight. throw the scale out the window. it's meaningless. that's another thing that too many of us have grown up not understanding.

    I don't even bother weighing myself anymore. I used to weigh myself on that scale at GNC and would freak if I gained weight....no scales for me.
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  • PJSerfPJSerf Posts: 637
    things work differently for different people, obviously, and that's why you have play with it for a bit at the beginning to find out what's right for you. what i mentioned before...these were the plans i put many of my friends on when i was in university and they all had immediate positive results. 100% positive results with several people who asked me to help them get their diets and training straight over several years. i have not been training for the last couple of years, unfortunately, but before that i was training for about fourteen years. i don't mean to sound pompous, but on this subject i know what i'm talking about.

    more, smaller meals do work. eating fewer carbs later in the day does work. making sure your carbs are complex and not simple is another thing to look for. also your body can take up to about 60% more calories after a good workout than it normally can and many people make the mistake of just having a piece of fruit or something like that. it doesn't do anything but wear down your body and not repair it. i used to make that mistake when i first started. i would spend way too long in the gym and then not reapir my body with the proper foods and rest. i would train body parts too often in a week. once a week for each part is enough (except abs). running is another thing i used to try to get my "students" to stay away from. you can burn virtually the same amount of calories by walking as you do by running, but you don't get the cardiovascular workout. unless you're training for a marathon...walk. it's easier on your body.

    you bring up another good point...weight. too often people look at the scale or the number on the scale and feel that they "should" be a certain weight. throw the scale out the window. it's meaningless. that's another thing that too many of us have grown up not understanding.

    Thanks for your helpful advice. As I too, am looking to change my eating habits. I understand that diets are not the way to go, and you need to learn to adjust your eating habits for the long term.
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