things work differently for different people, obviously, and that's why you have play with it for a bit at the beginning to find out what's right for you. what i mentioned before...these were the plans i put many of my friends on when i was in university and they all had immediate positive results. 100% positive results with several people who asked me to help them get their diets and training straight over several years. i have not been training for the last couple of years, unfortunately, but before that i was training for about fourteen years. i don't mean to sound pompous, but on this subject i know what i'm talking about.
more, smaller meals do work. eating fewer carbs later in the day does work. making sure your carbs are complex and not simple is another thing to look for. also your body can take up to about 60% more calories after a good workout than it normally can and many people make the mistake of just having a piece of fruit or something like that. it doesn't do anything but wear down your body and not repair it. i used to make that mistake when i first started. i would spend way too long in the gym and then not reapir my body with the proper foods and rest. i would train body parts too often in a week. once a week for each part is enough (except abs). running is another thing i used to try to get my "students" to stay away from. you can burn virtually the same amount of calories by walking as you do by running, but you don't get the cardiovascular workout. unless you're training for a marathon...walk. it's easier on your body.
you bring up another good point...weight. too often people look at the scale or the number on the scale and feel that they "should" be a certain weight. throw the scale out the window. it's meaningless. that's another thing that too many of us have grown up not understanding.
I think more frequent, smaller meals "works"...just not in the way you described. No doubt it's a very very common belief in the bb world that it boosts metabolism, but again...no science to back it. Personally, I eat 6-7 small meals each day, but it's for hunger control and to get more consistent energy throughout the day. When I really started testing it out, it just became obvious that with respect to fat loss, it doesn't matter if I eat 4 meals a day or 8 meals a day...if I'm getting the same amount of calories and macros, I lose fat at the same rate.
I also think tapering carbs is a sensible thing to do, but again, not with respect to weight control. Carbs are non-essential, and the only reason to eat them is for energy. So it makes sense to start your day off with lots after an overnight fast, and have fewer in the evening before you go to bed since you don't need the extra energy then. But the whole idea of carbs being bad before bed just isn't workin' for me. I eat ice cream literally 10 minutes before bed, and somehow I'm able to still lose fat. I think that goes back to thinking about what really matters here: total calories and macros. Nutrient timing is important, especially if you lift seriously, but it's a very distant 3rd from the other two.
I def agree with ya on people spending waaay too much time in the gym and goin' cardio-crazy tho. Unless you wanna get really jacked and/or sub 10% body-fat, you don't need to kill yourself lifting/running.
I don't even bother weighing myself anymore. I used to weigh myself on that scale at GNC and would freak if I gained weight....no scales for me.
me either. I used to weigh myself every day and then starve for a day is I was up a half pound in water weight. I went to the doctor yesterday and the nurse insisted on weighing me. I argued with her because I have read from credible sources that if you don't want to be weighed at the doctor you don't have to be (if you are otherwise healthy, there's no reason the doctor needs your weight). She finally let me stand on the scale backwards.
me either. I used to weigh myself every day and then starve for a day is I was up a half pound in water weight. I went to the doctor yesterday and the nurse insisted on weighing me. I argued with her because I have read from credible sources that if you don't want to be weighed at the doctor you don't have to be (if you are otherwise healthy, there's no reason the doctor needs your weight). She finally let me stand on the scale backwards.
I did not know that...well i guess when i go to the doctor(it's so infrequent) I don't really mind...I was just getting into the habit of weighing myself every six months. When I was first exercising and trying to shed weight I guess it was okay but then I was just getting compulsive..now I just go by how my clothes fit. I just think your body wants to be a certain size. Im a 6 and that's good with me. Im muscular and have an athletic built...im never gonna be a waif.
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agreed. stb and a couple of other posters above had the right idea as well.
eating less is not necessarily going to make you lose the weight you want to lose. it will merely slow down your metabolism. eating sensible portions for meals...more than the "standard" three meals a day and some healthy snacks like fruit, yogurt, unsalted / unbuttered popcorn, etc. will help get your metabolic rate to the point where it needs to be, or where you want it to be.
if you can, never skip breakfast. have a protein and a complex carb for every meal, maybe five sensible portions...whatever works for you. have your heavier carbs earlier in the day if you want them...like pasta. lower your carb intake as the day goes on and don't fill up with carbs before bed. a protein of some sort will help before bed. if you feel hungrier (is that a word? ) then snack on some leafy green veggies at night or have a small amount of something like granola that will expand in your stomach and make you feel full.
it's really too bad that many of us grew up being taught to eat "three square meals a day" and that eating less is good to lose weight. it's totally false. eating more and more often, but eating the right things is the way to go. once your metabolism increases to a good point, you'd be surprised how easily your body will burn off treats like chocolate or foods like that.
good luck, libragirl. stay away from things that keep your appetite down! your body needs those calories for fuel. make sure it's the right fuel and that you "fill up" more often.
Yeah Im trying to eat more protein, lean protein. I notice if i have a bagel in the morning Im starving by lunch time. Carbs are really my downfall..that's why i started taking the supplements, it said it curbs cravings for carbs..I haven't taken them so long..so Im not sure about that claim.
Thanks for your advice and everyone else.
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a lot of these suppressants are over the counter which means nothing has been validated by the FDA. so the makers are at liberty to say what they want to to sell their product.
oh and remember, "natural" does not always equal safe.
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
a lot of these suppressants are over the counter which means nothing has been validated by the FDA. so the makers are at liberty to say what they want to to sell their product.
oh and remember, "natural" does not always equal safe.
good to know..yeah you are right about natural thing not always being safe.
These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
Try making whey protein shakes. They are super filling and help lose weight as well as gain lean muscle. I add whey protein w/ fat free plain yogurt, skim milk, a banana, frozen strawberries and blueberries. Sometimes some honey if I need it. Blend and it's super good. Filling and really makes a difference in weight loss IMO.
Try and focus more on eating protein instead of carbs. Or eat good carbs, protein will fill you up faster and keep you full longer. Nosh on nuts (walnuts, almonds, macadamias) for a snack.
Best appetite Suppressants are natural foods. And drink plenty of h20! I'd shy away from anything that comes in a pill form. Better safe than sorry. I've lost almost 50 lbs and kept it off. My best advice is eat natural, not processed. The only real processed foods I eat are Clif Bars. And I can honestly say I'm in the best shape EVER (and my Dr. agrees!).
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. "
Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Try making whey protein shakes. They are super filling and help lose weight as well as gain lean muscle. I add whey protein w/ fat free plain yogurt, skim milk, a banana, frozen strawberries and blueberries. Sometimes some honey if I need it. Blend and it's super good. Filling and really makes a difference in weight loss IMO.
Try and focus more on eating protein instead of carbs. Or eat good carbs, protein will fill you up faster and keep you full longer. Nosh on nuts (walnuts, almonds, macadamias) for a snack.
Best appetite Suppressants are natural foods. And drink plenty of h20! I'd shy away from anything that comes in a pill form. Better safe than sorry. I've lost almost 50 lbs and kept it off. My best advice is eat natural, not processed. The only real processed foods I eat are Clif Bars. And I can honestly say I'm in the best shape EVER (and my Dr. agrees!).
I have a big appetite but I don't seem to gain weight. I guess I should enjoy it while it lasts. My grandfather was a big eater and was never fat, my father was always thin, skinny actually. Recently he started eating heaps of crap, not literally of course, and he drinks a lot of alcohol, this is not a recent thing, however. He has gained weight but not so much.
Either way, I don't have anything relevant to say except if anyone here suggests pot I would advise against it
I have a big appetite but I don't seem to gain weight. I guess I should enjoy it while it lasts. My grandfather was a big eater and was never fat, my father was always thin, skinny actually. Recently he started eating heaps of crap, not literally of course, and he drinks a lot of alcohol, this is not a recent thing, however. He has gained weight but not so much.
Either way, I don't have anything relevant to say except if anyone here suggests pot I would advise against it
lol...well yeah...I don't need to get more cravings.
These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
I have a big appetite but I don't seem to gain weight. I guess I should enjoy it while it lasts. My grandfather was a big eater and was never fat, my father was always thin, skinny actually. Recently he started eating heaps of crap, not literally of course, and he drinks a lot of alcohol, this is not a recent thing, however. He has gained weight but not so much.
Either way, I don't have anything relevant to say except if anyone here suggests pot I would advise against it
yeah this post was about as useful as having a snooze button on a smoke alarm.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
me either. I used to weigh myself every day and then starve for a day is I was up a half pound in water weight. I went to the doctor yesterday and the nurse insisted on weighing me. I argued with her because I have read from credible sources that if you don't want to be weighed at the doctor you don't have to be (if you are otherwise healthy, there's no reason the doctor needs your weight). She finally let me stand on the scale backwards.
:eek:
I don't understand this.
Just get on the scale.
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
me either. I used to weigh myself every day and then starve for a day is I was up a half pound in water weight. I went to the doctor yesterday and the nurse insisted on weighing me. I argued with her because I have read from credible sources that if you don't want to be weighed at the doctor you don't have to be (if you are otherwise healthy, there's no reason the doctor needs your weight). She finally let me stand on the scale backwards.
you should try drinking Green Tea... don't want you to catch a nasty Disease.
todays top tip: even if you stand on a scale backwards you still weigh the same.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Exercise and sex are good appetite suppressants.
Fresh air.
Don't pump junk into your body.
so basically i should hump my wife outdoors whilst eating an apple... wait till i tell her about this!!!!! i say tell her, i mean deliberately mislead her.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
so basically i should hump my wife outdoors whilst eating an apple... wait till i tell her about this!!!!! i say tell her, i mean deliberately mislead her.
Listen, I am not doctor, but I play on the AET.
Live as we were born to live. Natural, fresh foods, fresh air, water and lots and lots of wine.
Tell the missus I prescribed it.
Just for the love of Garfield, don't take those appetite suppressants pills that are full of caffeine. They just make people grouchy.
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
Listen, I am not doctor, but I play on the AET.
Live as we were born to live. Natural, fresh foods, fresh air, water and lots and lots of wine.
Tell the missus I prescribed it.
Just for the love of Garfield, don't take those appetite suppressants pills that are full of caffeine. They just make people grouchy.
They don't have caffeine in them. Well the one's i have at least. Im not planning of substituting them for exercising and eating well though
These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
Ladies or men...do you take them. I exercise and I am in pretty good shape but I need extra help so I decided to get these herbal supplements. I don't think they are dangerous though.
:eek:
I don't understand this.
Just get on the scale.
well, it's a mental thing. if you've had mental issues with weight since childhood like I have, weighing yourself can have reprocussions with your psyche. I pretty much know how much I weigh. But if I get on the scale and it's gone up due to getting my period or whatever, it can send me into a funk for weeks, and I'll stop working out and everything. I need POSITIVE reinforcement when it comes to this- if I think I'm losing weight I'll continue doing healthy things, but if I've gained weight, I give up (as I mentioned, I screwed up my metabolism, and now gain extremely easily and can't lose anything). The last time I weighed myself was a few months ago. I had lost my appetite for a while and was having great workouts, so I thought I'd weigh myself, I felt thinner and I thought it would be positive reinforcement. Well anyway, I had actually gained 4 pounds. It was extremely depressing and made me feel like I have no control over my body (I actually may not, getting that checked out in 2 months!)
Actually, when I was in college, if you got a checkup at the campus health center, they would MAKE you stand on the scale backwards and not tell you the results. there were too many girls with eating disorders on campus. there are a LOT of books out now that just busting the conventional wisdom about these issues and instructing people not to weigh themselves. the thought is that the reason people are overweight is because from birth you're taught to obsess about it and it has the opposite effect for many psychological reasons. obvisously, this happens for some people and not others. But I will say, that everyone I know who is happy with their weight and not worried about was never restricted as a child.
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I also think tapering carbs is a sensible thing to do, but again, not with respect to weight control. Carbs are non-essential, and the only reason to eat them is for energy. So it makes sense to start your day off with lots after an overnight fast, and have fewer in the evening before you go to bed since you don't need the extra energy then. But the whole idea of carbs being bad before bed just isn't workin' for me. I eat ice cream literally 10 minutes before bed, and somehow I'm able to still lose fat. I think that goes back to thinking about what really matters here: total calories and macros. Nutrient timing is important, especially if you lift seriously, but it's a very distant 3rd from the other two.
I def agree with ya on people spending waaay too much time in the gym and goin' cardio-crazy tho. Unless you wanna get really jacked and/or sub 10% body-fat, you don't need to kill yourself lifting/running.
me either. I used to weigh myself every day and then starve for a day is I was up a half pound in water weight. I went to the doctor yesterday and the nurse insisted on weighing me. I argued with her because I have read from credible sources that if you don't want to be weighed at the doctor you don't have to be (if you are otherwise healthy, there's no reason the doctor needs your weight). She finally let me stand on the scale backwards.
I did not know that...well i guess when i go to the doctor(it's so infrequent) I don't really mind...I was just getting into the habit of weighing myself every six months. When I was first exercising and trying to shed weight I guess it was okay but then I was just getting compulsive..now I just go by how my clothes fit. I just think your body wants to be a certain size. Im a 6 and that's good with me. Im muscular and have an athletic built...im never gonna be a waif.
Yeah Im trying to eat more protein, lean protein. I notice if i have a bagel in the morning Im starving by lunch time. Carbs are really my downfall..that's why i started taking the supplements, it said it curbs cravings for carbs..I haven't taken them so long..so Im not sure about that claim.
Thanks for your advice and everyone else.
Seriously, though: chew some gum.
Im not too sure what you mean by that...
Yeah I tried gum and still do...it does help a lot but there is one side effect..GAS!
oh and remember, "natural" does not always equal safe.
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
good to know..yeah you are right about natural thing not always being safe.
Try and focus more on eating protein instead of carbs. Or eat good carbs, protein will fill you up faster and keep you full longer. Nosh on nuts (walnuts, almonds, macadamias) for a snack.
Best appetite Suppressants are natural foods. And drink plenty of h20! I'd shy away from anything that comes in a pill form. Better safe than sorry. I've lost almost 50 lbs and kept it off. My best advice is eat natural, not processed. The only real processed foods I eat are Clif Bars. And I can honestly say I'm in the best shape EVER (and my Dr. agrees!).
Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
I saw Hard To Imagine LIVE at MSG!
good post, and good for you!
Either way, I don't have anything relevant to say except if anyone here suggests pot I would advise against it
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lol...well yeah...I don't need to get more cravings.
yeah this post was about as useful as having a snooze button on a smoke alarm.
I don't understand this.
Just get on the scale.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
you should try drinking Green Tea... don't want you to catch a nasty Disease.
todays top tip: even if you stand on a scale backwards you still weigh the same.
Exercise and sex are good appetite suppressants.
Fresh air.
Don't pump junk into your body.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
so basically i should hump my wife outdoors whilst eating an apple... wait till i tell her about this!!!!! i say tell her, i mean deliberately mislead her.
Live as we were born to live. Natural, fresh foods, fresh air, water and lots and lots of wine.
Tell the missus I prescribed it.
Just for the love of Garfield, don't take those appetite suppressants pills that are full of caffeine. They just make people grouchy.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
They don't have caffeine in them. Well the one's i have at least. Im not planning of substituting them for exercising and eating well though
lol..
Eat every three hours instead.
yeah i don't do that. I eat breakfast...a late morning snack about 11 am Lunch and Dinner and maybe a snack in the evening.
here is what Im taking:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FKHX64
well, it's a mental thing. if you've had mental issues with weight since childhood like I have, weighing yourself can have reprocussions with your psyche. I pretty much know how much I weigh. But if I get on the scale and it's gone up due to getting my period or whatever, it can send me into a funk for weeks, and I'll stop working out and everything. I need POSITIVE reinforcement when it comes to this- if I think I'm losing weight I'll continue doing healthy things, but if I've gained weight, I give up (as I mentioned, I screwed up my metabolism, and now gain extremely easily and can't lose anything). The last time I weighed myself was a few months ago. I had lost my appetite for a while and was having great workouts, so I thought I'd weigh myself, I felt thinner and I thought it would be positive reinforcement. Well anyway, I had actually gained 4 pounds. It was extremely depressing and made me feel like I have no control over my body (I actually may not, getting that checked out in 2 months!)
Actually, when I was in college, if you got a checkup at the campus health center, they would MAKE you stand on the scale backwards and not tell you the results. there were too many girls with eating disorders on campus. there are a LOT of books out now that just busting the conventional wisdom about these issues and instructing people not to weigh themselves. the thought is that the reason people are overweight is because from birth you're taught to obsess about it and it has the opposite effect for many psychological reasons. obvisously, this happens for some people and not others. But I will say, that everyone I know who is happy with their weight and not worried about was never restricted as a child.