The Curse of the Hidden track

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fada
fada Posts: 1,032
edited November 2007 in All Encompassing Trip
This is something that really irratates me. When you come to the supposedly end of an album and you have to wait from anywhere from ten seconds to twenty minutes for the ending song. Why not just but it down on the albums.
Was it first started by The beatles on pepper with the "Never could see any other one" after "A Day in the life" ?
I remember live had one at the end of theirs but they wasn't really a wait.

Its the speeding forwards that irratates me. Should these be stopped?
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    yeah... i don't get it either. I can see maybe an unlisted track at the end, but minutes of silence between them on some albums annoys me.
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  • fada
    fada Posts: 1,032
    On Damien Rice's last album there was a ten minute wait
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    speeding forward as in that one Korn cd that doesn't start until like track 13 or whatever it is.

    the tracks leading up to where the music starts arent real long silent tracks but still they are there and very silent.
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  • Buru
    Buru Posts: 8,473
    fada wrote:
    This is something that really irratates me. When you come to the supposedly end of an album and you have to wait from anywhere from ten seconds to twenty minutes for the ending song. Why not just but it down on the albums.
    Was it first started by The beatles on pepper with the "Never could see any other one" after "A Day in the life" ?
    I remember live had one at the end of theirs but they wasn't really a wait.

    Its the speeding forwards that irratates me. Should these be stopped?

    I think the idea is to surprise you.
    The CD ended, you're doing something arounf the room and then a new song (of sorts) begins. It's kinda cool to me.

    but i would not make the wait more than a minute or so.
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  • Julien
    Julien Posts: 2,457
    the worst is on nervermind. If I remeber, you have to wait 20 or 25 minutes before teh hidden track starts... I don't like that. It's nice if the track satrts 30 second or 1 minute after the end of the alst track, but 10 or 20 minutes is fucking ridiculous...
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    I forget which Mudhoney album it is, but it seems that the "hidden track" is the entire album backwards. Or a very big portion of the album.
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  • Jennytree
    Jennytree Posts: 5,340
    I used to listen to Binaural every day on the bus, fall asleep nicely during Soon Forget/Parting Ways then get the shite frightened outta me when the typewriter started!

    I like hidden tracks though, its like I'm getting something for free :D
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Dave Matthews Under the Table and Dreaming has the last track titled #34, and it's actually the 34th track on the CD, so after the first 11 tracks, you have like 23 blank tracks in between. This is really annoying on shuffle... at least on itunes or an ipod you can just delete the blank tracks.
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  • iamsampj
    iamsampj Posts: 784
    Jennytree wrote:
    I used to listen to Binaural every day on the bus, fall asleep nicely during Soon Forget/Parting Ways then get the shite frightened outta me when the typewriter started!

    I like hidden tracks though, its like I'm getting something for free :D
    i have done the same thing...scared the crap outta me.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Buru wrote:
    I think the idea is to surprise you.
    The CD ended, you're doing something arounf the room and then a new song (of sorts) begins. It's kinda cool to me.

    but i would not make the wait more than a minute or so.

    it doesn't work anymore though when you can usually tell when you load the cd how long the track is and know the actual song wasn't that long.

    or you have ok go, whose last track on their last cd was 35 minutes and there was no secret song. just a long silence to end.
  • MookieBlaylock5v1
    MookieBlaylock5v1 Posts: 353
    chadwick wrote:
    speeding forward as in that one Korn cd that doesn't start until like track 13 or whatever it is.

    do you realize how many idiots went back to the music store to return their Korn CD because they thought it was defective? I should know, I worked at Blockbuster Music at the time of the release.

    they didn't pay attention to the big sticker on the front that said "Hey Moron! The music begins on track 13!"
  • Pegasus
    Pegasus Posts: 3,754
    I hate hidden tracks, as if ANYONE was going to let their CD run for over 30s with no music... :rolleyes:

    reminds me that I have to make an edit of the Guaranteed track to remove that stupid silence.
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    soulsinging wrote:

    or you have ok go, whose last track on their last cd was 35 minutes and there was no secret song. just a long silence to end.
    oh the mars volta had something strange too, didn't they? :o

    They don't work in the cd and internet age cos you always know the secret before you find out for yourself...
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    i will be hating you for christmas
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  • fada
    fada Posts: 1,032
    ~Isn't there a wait of over 30 on one of heathen chemistry for an Oasis song.

    Stone roses second coming is as annoying as hell as here is about 40 3 seconds clips on it after the last song . You can't shuffle the album
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    fada wrote:
    This is something that really irratates me. When you come to the supposedly end of an album and you have to wait from anywhere from ten seconds to twenty minutes for the ending song. Why not just but it down on the albums.
    Was it first started by The beatles on pepper with the "Never could see any other one" after "A Day in the life" ?
    I remember live had one at the end of theirs but they wasn't really a wait.

    Its the speeding forwards that irratates me. Should these be stopped?

    The Pepper one wasn't so much a hidden track as an inner groove loop, on the LP.
  • Malroth
    Malroth broken down chevrolet Posts: 2,556
    I've always called the hidden track the shuffle beater.
    The worst of times..they don't phase me,
    even if I look and act really crazy.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    blackredyellow said:
    Dave Matthews Under the Table and Dreaming has the last track titled #34, and it's actually the 34th track on the CD, so after the first 11 tracks, you have like 23 blank tracks in between. This is really annoying on shuffle... at least on itunes or an ipod you can just delete the blank tracks.
    Tool had a similar thing on Undertow. I think it was track 69. The first time I had it in my car CD player back in the day, I thought my deck had gone haywire.
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  • LongestRoad
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    Kinda like the holiday single. Keep bitching about it. :)
  • brianlux
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    LongestRoad said:
    Kinda like the holiday single. Keep bitching about it. :)
    Are we still bitching about the holiday single?  :lol: 
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