Avocado: oh how I wish you were better.

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  • LloydChristmas
    LloydChristmas Posts: 224
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I like this album, I do... But it has very little depth compared to the others; none of the aggression; it's mixed in a totally lacklustre, conservative way; Matt hardly ever rocks hard (WWS is a major exercise in boredom-drumming - closed hi hats all the way, COME ON MAN this isn't jazz).

    Where is the intelligence in the songs, compared to songs like 'No Way' and 'Faithful' and 'Last Exit' and 'Grievance' and 'Long Road'.... you name it....

    Sorry everyone. I wish I felt differently.

    I completely agree. I have tried and tried to like this album but I can not get into it. Since its release I play the cd once every couple of weeks to hope that it gains my interest but I can barely listen to it. Being a big PJ fan from the beginning I feel like I need to like it but I can't. I wonder how many of us fans can really admit that the album is not great.
  • HushBull
    HushBull Posts: 996
    They still need to complete the trilogy... No Code, Riot Act, ? (2008)!
    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    HushBull wrote:
    They still need to complete the trilogy... No Code, Riot Act, ? (2008)!

    Agreed.

    I just need one more great album, and then I can officially write this one off.
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  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    I'd call it a "fun" album. Fun songs that are good enough to enjoy listening to without being particularly deep or moving you.

    But I'll take almost all of their other albums over this one.
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  • HushBull
    HushBull Posts: 996
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Agreed.

    I just need one more great album, and then I can officially write this one off.

    Only one...how about, ehh, 5?!? Too many...okay, 4!
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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    yosi wrote:
    I'd call it a "fun" album. Fun songs that are good enough to enjoy listening to without being particularly deep or moving you.

    But I'll take almost all of their other albums over this one.

    Again, agreed. It is a fun album, a good sunny day album. I've just never really seen Pearl Jam as a sunny day band. :o
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  • PilatesBetterman
    PilatesBetterman Posts: 306
    Davanita wrote:
    news flash: *opinions* are what forums are for.... you wouldn't give it thumbs down if you agreed, because disagreeing in this case is your opinion.

    so what.

    i don't like Avocado either! does that make me a lesser fan? hell no.
    for me, personally, this album just lacks spirit... it doesn't have the light of Yield, doesn't have the darkness of Binaural and Riot Act, it just lingers somewhere in between and it feels awefully safe and mainstream to me.
    i don't necessarily want the new album to be No Code II, but i do hope they'll bring that... "fuck it - we're gonna do this OUR way" attitude back. experiment, please!

    but hey, this is just MY opinion. :rolleyes:


    AMEN

    Maybe they could make Eleven(the follow up to Ten) this time round, lol
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  • HushBull
    HushBull Posts: 996
    PilatesBetterman wrote:
    AMEN

    Maybe they could make Eleven(the follow up to Ten) this time round, lol
    That is a fucking terrible idea.
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  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
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  • Qball
    Qball Posts: 283
    I have to say that the "avocado" album is my favorite. I just think it is solid from front to back. So many great songs IMO. I actually was hoping that they toured this album more than they did.
  • MattyJoe
    MattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    flyinwhole313 wrote:
    I think it is one of the more diverse albums they have put out in a while.

    That would definitely be Riot Act, sorry.
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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    Even though Avocado is not my favorite (that would be Vitalogy) I still feel its a really good album. I actually like all the songs on the album and love a couple too (severed hand, comatose, army reserve). But of course I'm hoping for something different for their next album- something we wouldnt expect.
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  • Sexy2aFault
    Sexy2aFault Posts: 388
    Oh please thread starter. Comatose and Worldwide Suicide melt the faces off- off anything on NO Code and Yield. Smart people (like Rolling Stone jouirnalist David Fricke) disagree with your remarks. Life Wasted,WWS,Comatose,Big Wave,Severed and MITS were the freshest sounding garage punk batch of rocking songs since Vitalogy songs 1-8.

    Deal with it.
  • stupidcorporatewhore
    stupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
    yosi wrote:
    I'd call it a "fun" album. Fun songs that are good enough to enjoy listening to without being particularly deep or moving you.

    you are out of your mind!

    Army reserve and come back don't move you?

    check your pulse dude.
  • stupidcorporatewhore
    stupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Again, agreed. It is a fun album, a good sunny day album. I've just never really seen Pearl Jam as a sunny day band. :o

    (jaw drops)

    let's see WWS, unemployable, Gone, Army Reserve , LIFE WASTED!!

    yeah, real breezy stuff. Might want to check the cd and make sure you didn't put a partridge family disc in there by mistake.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,003
    I have to agree with the guy who says it's a sunny day type of album. I thought the same thing on my first listen of it.

    overall, I think it's a pretty good album. better than Riot Act if you ask me. Come Back, Unemployable, and Big Wave are pretty bad but the rest is okay.
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  • nukeboot
    nukeboot Posts: 1,465
    With the exception of the current state of politics, they don't have much to be agressive about - rich, accomplished musicians who travel the world in style and have loving families to return home to.

    I actually think they need to retire some songs, like Leash. Singing about teenage angst at this point in their lives is just silly.
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    nukeboot wrote:
    With the exception of the current state of politics, they don't have much to be agressive about - rich, accomplished musicians who travel the world in style and have loving families to return home to.

    I actually think they need to retire some songs, like Leash. Singing about teenage angst at this point in their lives is just silly.

    They're still a rock band, y'know - Leash is not just a huge crowdpleaser, it's a fucking great rock song. No reason to retire it.
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  • I'm the ocean
    I'm the ocean Posts: 77
    First post in the message pit. Late bloomer to this whole technology thing. Think leatherman. Anyway, on this whole "Avocado" issue, i've been following the band like I'm sure the rest of you all have from the beginning and this latest album is another great journey this band is taking us all on. Each album has grown along with the band and it's my humble opinion that there aren't any holes in any albums. This is the most rock solid and unwaivering band and we all should feel lucky and proud to be part of this. I just hope that there will come another worth passing the torch to. Can't wait for June 30th in Mansfield. Like E.V. asked at the Gorge in '05 "where do you go when you leave?" I feel like I'm the only one out there blasting PJ in my car. Where are the rest of you? Great crowds at the shows but everyone seems to dissappear into the woodworks after that. Hope to hear you out there and see you at the shows. Love you all Jamily!!!
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  • the wolf
    the wolf Posts: 7,027
    ivatheenginedriver wrote:
    First post in the message pit. Late bloomer to this whole technology thing. Think leatherman. Anyway, on this whole "Avocado" issue, i've been following the band like I'm sure the rest of you all have from the beginning and this latest album is another great journey this band is taking us all on. Each album has grown along with the band and it's my humble opinion that there aren't any holes in any albums. This is the most rock solid and unwaivering band and we all should feel lucky and proud to be part of this. I just hope that there will come another worth passing the torch to. Can't wait for June 30th in Mansfield. Like E.V. asked at the Gorge in '05 "where do you go when you leave?" I feel like I'm the only one out there blasting PJ in my car. Where are the rest of you? Great crowds at the shows but everyone seems to dissappear into the woodworks after that. Hope to hear you out there and see you at the shows. Love you all Jamily!!!

    hey, welcome to the board.


    i stay outta debates about this album. i think its solid, and tied for my favorite album. i just cant see how a PJ fan could not like this album myself.
    but hey, to each their own, and thats why i wont go into why this is one of their best efforts.
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