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  • iamica
    iamica Chicago Posts: 2,628
    DonJon wrote:
    I cant believe its not compulsory to vote. Legal age, sound mind means must vote in your countries elections.

    What is the percentage of your population that doesnt vote? Any idea?

    We get fined in Australia if we dont vote

    Voting in Australia is mandatory? I didn't know that. I think if they tried to pull that here, there'd be a lot of unpaid fines.
    I think only about half of all Americans who are eligible to vote actually do, for reasons that Crazy Breed mentioned, or just because they don't want to.
    I vote because I believe it does make a difference. Yes, big business has their fingers in everything and most politicians are completely corrupt, but sitting around and whining about it isn't going to change anything.
    I also vote because of how hard women fought to get the vote. My great-grandmothers couldn't vote because of their gender. I'm going to take advantage of my right to vote.
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  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    You know what Crazy Breed, if you don't like the system and believe that the individual voter doesn't count, keep it to yourself

    there's no need to come here and be negative about something that alot of American's are proud to participate in.

    It's people like you that hold others back with your "nothing's ever going to change" attitude.

    Obviously the world is not going to change overnight, but with attitudes like yours, it never will
    +1.

    i can't wait to vote. i was up at 5:30 because i was so excited! :)
  • edvedr13
    edvedr13 Posts: 241
    Good luck America, as a Canadian, we don't have the right to vote of course, however, we up here in Canada depend on what and who you Americans vote for. Please at least go out and vote, no matter who you vote for!

    BUT GOD, REMEMBER WHAT WE HAVE ALL GONE THROUGH AND SUFFERED THROUGH FOR THE PAST 8 YEARS, YOU AMERICANS HAVE A HUGE SAY IN WHAT HAPPENS TO THE REST OF THE WORLD!


    Please go VOTE!

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  • Gonzo1977
    Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    Crazy Breed.

    I don't know what's more pathetic; your pessimism or your lazyness.

    Whatever.

    Just go ahead and sit on the couch today...grab a bag of chips, put your hand down your jogging pants, and stroke your fucking life away.

    You don't like the system but you do FUCK ALL to change it.

    If your so disillusioned, why don't you do something about it.

    But I guess trying it too hard.
  • DonJon wrote:
    I cant believe its not compulsory to vote. Legal age, sound mind means must vote in your countries elections.

    What is the percentage of your population that doesnt vote? Any idea?

    We get fined in Australia if we dont vote

    U.S. has about a 55% vote ratio, should be up this time to 65%+. Down here in Florida every vote means something. Most states though lean much farther one way to a party, so some people don't feel the obligation to go out and vote knowing which party will win the state like when I lived in NY. That's why you see Obama & McCain mostly in the swing states. Most people take this life and voting here in the states too much for granted. Then they go out and complain about what's going on here, what bull-sh*t! Go out and Vote.
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  • You know what Crazy Breed, if you don't like the system and believe that the individual voter doesn't count, keep it to yourself

    there's no need to come here and be negative about something that alot of American's are proud to participate in.

    It's people like you that hold others back with your "nothing's ever going to change" attitude.

    Obviously the world is not going to change overnight, but with attitudes like yours, it never will

    "ignorance is bliss" that's why you think I'm being negative.you're not informed enough to know i speak the truth. Change will only come when enough people wake up and realize they are being played like a fucking tune.

    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    Crazy Breed.

    I don't know what's more pathetic; your pessimism or your lazyness.

    Whatever.

    Just go ahead and sit on the couch today...grab a bag of chips, put your hand down your jogging pants, and stroke your fucking life away.

    You don't like the system but you do FUCK ALL to change it.

    If your so disillusioned, why don't you do something about it.

    But I guess trying it too hard.

    the only thing that is pathetic around here is your clueless assumptions of who and what i am/do.

    I am an activist and i do plenty to spread the truth the only problem is that the sheeple don't like the truth! they don't like being told they are wrong! they don't like being told that all they know is a lie! and they respond just like you did.
    you're the one who is having his mind "stroked" and you're not even able to see it!




    "In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." ~ Mark Twain
  • gotta love the politics....

    YES GO OUT AND VOTE...

    but as sad and negative as CRAZY BREEDS attitude is...its TRUE...hello? just look at the last two elections? who won? NOT FUCKING BUSH! who was put in office? FUCKING BUSH!

    Americans are a bunch of clueless lemmings that follow what the controlled media follow.

    Whatever happend to WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION? "oh we dont talk about that anymore cause its not on CNN." Well, we went to war over them, everyone just forgets...

    Whatever happened to Osama Bin Laden? "oh, we dont talk about him anymore cause fox news hasnt mentioned him in a while"

    I still beleive that everyone should go out and vote! MY VOTES BEEN CAST FOR WEEKS!

    but your vote really doesnt mean anything....HASNT ANYONE HERE HEARD OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE? your vote doesnt matter...anyone go to history class in elementary school? or did we just forget that too?

    whats really sad is that today, in this country we have the technology to make it so that everyones vote does count....but we never will because then our votes MIGHT actually matter.

    You can all keep picking on CRAZY BREED but it makes you all seem even dumber. if this was TRULY a democratic nation BUSH wouldnt be in office, we wouldnt be in a meaningless war, we wouldnt have the highest incarceration rate on the planet...and we wouldnt be the laughing stock of the rest of the world!

    we actually had it good with Clinton but we are so stupid we though it was bad...remember how we actually tried to get him impeached over having his pee pee sucked? WAKE UP AMERICA!
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  • wolfbear wrote:
    I just want to ask a question of voters here. I've been voting a long, long time and don't really understand the lines I've been reading/hearing about. I've been voting absentee/by mail for years and it is very convenient and easy. Washington state is almost 100% vote by mail now. Why don't more do this?
    I could google by state, but thought I'd just ask the opinions of those here. :)



    perhaps b/c most of us don't kniow how? :o
    i always assumed to voted 'absentee' you actually DID have to be absent from your voting place, not just choose to do so b/c you feel like it. as far as i know, in NY, there IS no early voting, vote by mail, etc....except for the absentee ballot. so i just don't think all states offer all these options.




    btw - while i DO consider it a RIGHT and a RESPONSIBILITY to vote...i really don't think compulsory voting is 'right.' part of the freedoms of being an american, is the right NOT to vote as well. if one does not want to participate in their government and representation, that is their choice to make imo. however, personally, i fully believe in voting, and i always vote!
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  • finnannie
    finnannie Posts: 1,186
    I find it sad... but I agree with Crazy Breed.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    columbia, mo checking in. no lines. paper ballot for me.
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  • mensane
    mensane Posts: 912
    your vote does count. regardless of how you feel about the national ticket and electoral votes, dont forget about the LOCAL elections. 4 years ago, our governor won by 137 VOTES.

    137 votes in the whole state!
  • I voted for Obama. First time I ever voted for a Democrat.
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  • Wow crazy....wow.

    Also, don't just vote for the sake of voting. The more uniformed voters who vote, the more the whole system starts campaigning to the base uninformed crowd, and as a result the whole process is skewed. Madatory voting would be a farce without the proper education. The only way a true democracy can occur is with the full disclosure of information coupled with the full participation of the voting population. The more uniformed people vote, the less the informed votes actually mean.

    Even half of the people who posture and profess to be informed are sitting on a bunch of bullshit filtered information. The media, their friends, their families, their education all produce biases.

    Maybe we need a benevolent dictator...a philosopher king ala socrates.

    What do I know though. Make up your own minds and don't listen to musicians, the news, your teachers, me, etc. Try and find a wealth of information, make up your own mind, and make the best of a fundamentally flawed system.

    Until a radical social political and economic change occurs...it's evolution, baby.
  • Crazy Breed is pretty much spot on.

    And I don't vote because I don't care. It's my right NOT TO vote just as much as it is my right TO vote. So keep your open-minded "every vote counts" holier-than-thou attitudes to yourselves.
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    This is gonna be my first time voting. IMO, if you can't decide between either candidate, you shouldn't vote.

    I'm not sayin I'm the most prepared voter, but I also have no interest in urging people, that have no interest, to vote.

    People need to be urged to be prepared to vote, not to vote.
  • an OBAMA supporter just stoped by my house....i wished him luck!

    i believe in the "your vote doesnt count" but if OBAMA does 1/3 of what hes talking about in office itll be a huge change for the better....

    COME ON LANDSLIDE!!! HOPEFULLY ITLL BE OVER BY 7:30pm eastern!! with a clear winner!!

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  • You can all keep picking on CRAZY BREED but it makes you all seem even dumber. if this was TRULY a democratic nation BUSH wouldnt be in office, we wouldnt be in a meaningless war, we wouldnt have the highest incarceration rate on the planet...and we wouldnt be the laughing stock of the rest of the world!

    i'm glad you know enough to understand what i was saying

    finnannie wrote:
    I find it sad... but I agree with Crazy Breed.

    it is sad and i take no pleasure in being right about it..in fact i WISH that i was wrong..but not enough to bury my head in the sand.
  • i'm glad you know enough to understand what i was saying


    ...im a college graduate, got me an edumacation...me more educatede than PALIN...

    SAD BUT TRUE....
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    When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

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    For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

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    For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

    He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

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  • Gonzo1977
    Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    the only thing that is pathetic around here is your clueless assumptions of who and what i am/do.

    I am an activist and i do plenty to spread the truth the only problem is that the sheeple don't like the truth! they don't like being told they are wrong! they don't like being told that all they know is a lie! and they respond just like you did.
    you're the one who is having his mind "stroked" and you're not even able to see it!


    Ohh. You're an activist. Great!!

    Pass the bong...Stroke My Mind...What's your solution?

    What are you doing to change the system?