National Sunday Law To Be Enforced!

i allready have all weekends off i don't need another day off but then again to have every friday off would rock ..

unifiedscene wrote:

Ummm... how is this cool, but mandating a day off is some sort of Nazi-power grab by the government? Isn't this the same principle? In either case, the government is mandating acceptable work practices.

Indentured servitude is relative. I don't know what job you work, but in most of my jobs, you work when they tell. If you balk, you're fired. When every company in the country does this, how much power do you really have to say no? There is no disputing the facts... Americans are workaholics. There was an interesting study not long ago about how Americans don't even take the vacation days their company offers because they are afraid of being fired if they do when the company realizes they can get by without them. We, as a society, live in terror of our employers and largely at their mercy. And don't tell me this work ethic somehow makes America great. Last I checked our economy was in the shitter and our citizens were massively overworked, depressed, unhappy, alcoholic, drug-addicted, divorced, and stressed out.

I should also clarify that I oppose blue laws that only ban alcohol sales on a given day out of some morality play. I was thinking in terms of a total national shutdown one day a week. Nobody is allowed to operate a business, period. Make people stay home with the family, or go to the park or something. Remember that people and relationships matter as much as your job.

What the hell are you talking about?? Please, spit the marbles out of your mouth and articulate your thoughts.

Sweet Emotion wrote:

What the hell are you talking about?? Please, spit the marbles out of your mouth and articulate your thoughts.

You pointed to Europe's regulations on breaks, vacation days, time off, long lunches, etc. How is that different from America regulating one day off from work per week? Both are examples of government's telling business what they can and can't do. Why is one ok and the other is not?

Sweet Emotion wrote:

My comments were in regard to the other guy's thoughts about corporate culture and not about government mandates for how and when people have to do the jobs. In a previous post I had said that government mandates would be absurd.

Fair enough. Your response seemed to imply that you found nothing wrong with those kinds of regulations. Thus why I asked. I appreciate you being so civil and courteous in your responses.

yahamita wrote:

I am an Adventist, and been following this Sunday law enforcement for years. It is very scary to me since I worship on SATURDAY. and to see Obama's page mention this type of forced worhip/rest, is very overwhelming to me right now.

You do realize that this is just some randoms persons view, and in no way endorsed by obama don't you?

Sweet Emotion wrote:

I've been re reading this thread and it's apparent that you really have no idea what you've been talking about. Aside from being clueless on matters of history, politics, economy and social structure, you are twist of contradictions.
In one post you're all "for a mandated day off, because the country is work obsessed."
Then in this other when you pretend to some intellect you talk, in very confused ways, of Nazi power grabbing. And continue the incoherence with lots of ideas you found that you don't quite grasp.
You also missed the fact that I said on a European 'model'. Not government program. You want the mandates, I do not.
And then, lastly, young Unifiedscene, I am not here to be courteous to you.
I don't suffer fools very well.

Must be very difficult carrying the weight of your superiority everywhere with you. My sympathies.

I was simply musing out loud that this country is obsessed with work. There are a number of studies documenting that Americans work more hours and take fewer vacations than almost anywhere else. In theory, it would be a good thing for people to slow down and smell the roses now and again. Thus why I was enjoying the thought of a national day of rest, even if it truly is not the solution to the problem. I was not completely serious in suggesting that it is a good idea. It was simply a vehicle to advance the idea that Americans are workaholics and we ought to be aware of it and consider doing something about it. I believe it's called brainstorming solutions or some other obscure term you may have missed after you dropped out.

I was confused by the way you brought up European work restrictions, as it seemed you thought those were a good thing. That seemed like a contradiction to me to say that the European work restrictions were good, but similar laws in the US were a terrible abuse of freedom in the US. It didn't make sense. I misread you, as you were not advocating European style work-restrictions. My apologies for that. The "Nazi power grab" you seem so fixated upon was simply part of my asking you to explain why one was an acceptable restriction and the other was government overreaching.

But I stand by my rant about workaholism in the US and about the whole "if you want a day off, take one" myth. The fact is that in America workers don't have much power to stand up to employers. I'll see if I can dig up that study I referred to... Americans don't take vacation time because they are afraid of the consequences from their employers. My point was that if American workers are afraid even to take vacation time offered to them by employers, then it's pretty clear who has the power. They may not be indentured servants, but their options and freedom are pretty limited. And as someone else suggested, I truly believe this to be the root of our social decay. When we work so many hours just to keep our heads above water, how can we hope to spend time keeping our families together?

unifiedscene wrote:

Must be very difficult carrying the weight of your superiority everywhere with you. My sympathies.

I was simply musing out loud that this country is obsessed with work. There are a number of studies documenting that Americans work more hours and take fewer vacations than almost anywhere else. In theory, it would be a good thing for people to slow down and smell the roses now and again. Thus why I was enjoying the thought of a national day of rest, even if it truly is not the solution to the problem. I was not completely serious in suggesting that it is a good idea. It was simply a vehicle to advance the idea that Americans are workaholics and we ought to be aware of it and consider doing something about it. I believe it's called brainstorming solutions or some other obscure term you may have missed after you dropped out.

I was confused by the way you brought up European work restrictions, as it seemed you thought those were a good thing. That seemed like a contradiction to me to say that the European work restrictions were good, but similar laws in the US were a terrible abuse of freedom in the US. It didn't make sense. I misread you, as you were not advocating European style work-restrictions. My apologies for that. The "Nazi power grab" you seem so fixated upon was simply part of my asking you to explain why one was an acceptable restriction and the other was government overreaching.

But I stand by my rant about workaholism in the US and about the whole "if you want a day off, take one" myth. The fact is that in America workers don't have much power to stand up to employers. I'll see if I can dig up that study I referred to... Americans don't take vacation time because they are afraid of the consequences from their employers. My point was that if American workers are afraid even to take vacation time offered to them by employers, then it's pretty clear who has the power. They may not be indentured servants, but their options and freedom are pretty limited. And as someone else suggested, I truly believe this to be the root of our social decay. When we work so many hours just to keep our heads above water, how can we hope to spend time keeping our families together?

You tell him!

Sweet Emotion=meanie

(However, really smart and funny)

Sweet Emotion wrote:

Try not to buy into too much of your own bullshit, kid. You weren't 'merely musing' anything nor 'thus' anything else. You're fulla shit and trying to cover your tracks. Better luck next time.

I've really gotten under your skin, haven't I? You always get this hot and bothered when people don't roll over for you on internet forums? What say you and I talk about the points I raised about Americans working too much and having little or no say with respect to conditions of their employment and what we could potentially do to address that? Or you could carry on with the condescending and self-righteous insults. I do understand their appeal though... it is much easier to just call someone a "kid" and say they are full of bullshit than it is to actually advance any arguments or reasoning of your own. That might expose your lack of substance and all. For someone with absolutely nothing to say on this subject so far, you sure do post a lot.

Sweet Emotion wrote:

My conversation had been with someone else. You've done nothing but misread, mist quote and misunderstand. You're not worth trying to talk to.
Like I said, better luck next time.

Didn't realize I was intruding on a private conversation, seeing as how it's a public message board devoted to open debate and all. I misread one thing that piqued my curiosity and asked for clarification. Now that that one thing has been cleared up, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the related subjects raised. But suit yourself. I wouldn't want to get sucked into a real substantive debate in which I was clearly had nothing intelligent to say either. Far better to toss insults and then act like it's beneath you to back them up, irony be damned.

yahamita wrote:

Back to the subject..Does everyone agree that it was in fact the Catholics who felt superior to God and changed the true Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday? I thought God's laws couldn't be changed? Why is the 4th commandment the ONLY ONE God said REMEMBER?????

The answer to that question is in your sig.