Over 33% of Adults still think Saddam personally involved in 9/11

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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    To tell you the truth, it breaks my heart that the answer to this question isn't in the affirmative 100% not sure why you think commitment is "disturbing."

    Commitment for commitment sake is disturbing. That's what leads to gambling problems. A wise investor and business person knows you don't chase bad money with good. When you realize you've made a bad investment or a bad bet you cut your losses by not continuing to throw money at it. This is the same situation.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    jeffbr wrote:
    Commitment for commitment sake is disturbing. That's what leads to gambling problems. A wise investor and business person knows you don't chase bad money with good. When you realize you've made a bad investment or a bad bet you cut your losses by not continuing to throw money at it. This is the same situation.

    no...it's about right and wrong....period.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,242
    jeffbr wrote:
    Fortunately that number keeps shrinking. Unfortunately, it is still around 40% somehow:

    "Do you think the United States should keep its military forces in Iraq until civil order is restored there, even if that means continued U.S. military casualties; or do you think the United States should withdraw its military forces from Iraq in order to avoid further U.S. military casualties, even if that means civil order is not restored there?"

    .

    KeepForces WithdrawForces Unsure
    % % %
    7/18-21/07 39 59 3
    4/12-15/07 42 56 2
    2/22-25/07 42 56 2
    1/16-19/07 46 52 3
    12/7-11/06 48 48 4
    10/30 - 11/2/05 52 44 4
    8/25-28/05 54 44 2
    6/23-26/05 58 41 2
    12/16-19/04 58 39 3
    6/17-20/04 57 42 1
    5/20-23/04 58 40 2
    4/15-18/04 66 33 1
    11/12-16/03 62 34 4
    10/26-29/03 58 38 3
    9/10-13/03 65 32 3
    8/20-24/03 69 27 4
    7/9-10/03 72 26 2


    It is much easier to read the poll results from the link provided in the first post. Some of the questions/answer are eye opening and a bit depressing.

    http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

    When the US occupied this country of Iraq we disrupted civil order with an array of disorder and corruption.

    Ever notice the threat that if we leave the country will be open to take over by countries like Iran? All done to to keep the US safely tucked away in Iraq. Fear has worked very well for this administration.

    Peace
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    no...it's about right and wrong....period.

    Agreed. The right thing to do is stop accumulating casualties by attempting to force democracy on an unaccepting, unwilling populace. They aren't willing to help themselves. I'm not willing to put our people in harms way to force them to.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    jeffbr wrote:
    Agreed. The right thing to do is stop accumulating casualties by attempting to force democracy on an unaccepting, unwilling populace. They aren't willing to help themselves. I'm not willing to put our people in harms way to force them to.

    you haven't considered the consequences of your plan. will you accept genocide? do you think that's acceptable? will you accept Iran's aggressiveness? pollitics aside...don't let it cloud your reality. THINK man :D
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    you haven't considered the consequences of your plan. will you accept genocide? do you think that's acceptable? will you accept Iran's aggressiveness? pollitics aside...don't let it cloud your reality. THINK man :D

    yes, i accept those things. the problems of the middle east are their problems. they're as happy killing each other as they are us. let them work on each other. ill worry about them once they learn how to play nice with each other.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    soulsinging wrote:
    yes, i accept those things. the problems of the middle east are their problems. they're as happy killing each other as they are us. let them work on each other. ill worry about them once they learn how to play nice with each other.

    The occupation influence is invisible to you?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    The occupation influence is invisible to you?

    What does this mean?

    I agree with soulsinging. The entire middle east is so fucked up it is time to let them go for it. Hash it out. Kill each other. When someone wins they can call us and we'll trade. Death is going to happen over there anyway. It might as well happen without us. Why is it our problem? It was going on long before we got there. It will continue long after we're gone. We might as well cut our losses.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jeffbr wrote:
    What does this mean?

    I agree with soulsinging. The entire middle east is so fucked up it is time to let them go for it. Hash it out. Kill each other. When someone wins they can call us and we'll trade. Death is going to happen over there anyway. It might as well happen without us. Why is it our problem? It was going on long before we got there. It will continue long after we're gone. We might as well cut our losses.

    he likes to speak in cryptic riddles rather than actually making points. it feeds his ego... his favorite tactic. he gets to ask a question nobody understands and feel like he's smarter than all the rest of us becos nobody knows what the fuck his gibberish is supposed to be saying.

    that's my point though... it's none of our damn business. let's get the fuck out and stop meddling in the middle east. it's brought us nothing but bad. we've got our own problems to deal with.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,242
    soulsinging wrote:
    he likes to speak in cryptic riddles rather than actually making points. it feeds his ego... his favorite tactic. he gets to ask a question nobody understands and feel like he's smarter than all the rest of us becos nobody knows what the fuck his gibberish is supposed to be saying.

    that's my point though... it's none of our damn business. let's get the fuck out and stop meddling in the middle east. it's brought us nothing but bad. we've got our own problems to deal with.

    Yes we have a ton of issues and problems here in this country but the problem is this administration can't profit from those problems. Our administration doesn't care about whether the average citizen can get ahead or has health insurance, etc. A whole region down in the Gulf is ignored and relegated to obscurity are they being helped really.

    They're putting back in the SAME levy system which is just waiting to be destroyed again. Why not instead show the world how WE take of our own by building creating something state of the art system like they've done in Scandinavian countries to keep back the North Sea. Why can't we do that cause they don't care and the money isn't there, it's flying over Baghdad on billion $$$ cash pallets only to disappear. Their corruption is sickening.

    I've said as long as there's oil left in Iraq or Iran we will NEVER EVER leave Iraq. In Saudi Arabia we don't have to worry about we already have them in our back pockets.

    Peace and let the voices be heard this Saturday. StayHuman
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    g under p wrote:
    Yes we have a ton of issues and problems here in this country but the problem is this administration can't profit from those problems. Our administration doesn't care about whether the average citizen can get ahead or has health insurance, etc. A whole region down in the Gulf is ignored and relegated to obscurity are they being helped really.

    They're putting back in the SAME levy system which is just waiting to be destroyed again. Why not instead show the world how WE take of our own by building creating something state of the art system like they've done in Scandinavian countries to keep back the North Sea. Why can't we do that cause they don't care and the money isn't there, it's flying over Baghdad on billion $$$ cash pallets only to disappear. Their corruption is sickening.

    I've said as long as there's oil left in Iraq or Iran we will NEVER EVER leave Iraq. In Saudi Arabia we don't have to worry about we already have them in our back pockets.

    Peace and let the voices be heard this Saturday. StayHuman
    amazing how you make all this up as you go along. yea, stay human buddy
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,242
    jlew24asu wrote:
    amazing how you make all this up as you go along. yea, stay human buddy

    Don't anything about being buddies however I will stay human.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    g under p wrote:
    Yes we have a ton of issues and problems here in this country but the problem is this administration can't profit from those problems. Our administration doesn't care about whether the average citizen can get ahead or has health insurance, etc. A whole region down in the Gulf is ignored and relegated to obscurity are they being helped really.
    you honestly believe this? have you followed every piece of legislation that has been presented, passed and rejected? this is simply just a made up paragraph coming from your hateful head.
    g under p wrote:
    They're putting back in the SAME levy system which is just waiting to be destroyed again. Why not instead show the world how WE take of our own by building creating something state of the art system like they've done in Scandinavian countries to keep back the North Sea. Why can't we do that cause they don't care and the money isn't there, it's flying over Baghdad on billion $$$ cash pallets only to disappear. Their corruption is sickening.
    again, this is a costs benefit analysis that has been done. the city is too low to build for a cat 5 hurricane. bush is the one who wants the build it strong enough. congress doesnt. which is also confusing why you blame "the administration" when congress is ultimately the one who decides where money is spent.
    g under p wrote:
    I've said as long as there's oil left in Iraq or Iran we will NEVER EVER leave Iraq. In Saudi Arabia we don't have to worry about we already have them in our back pockets.
    you've said it all along huh? you are starting to sound like roland. of course we will never leave Iraq. same reason we have never leave germany, korea, or the balkins. do we get oil from those countries? no, but somehow we are still there.
  • rldriver2
    rldriver2 Posts: 27
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you honestly believe this? have you followed every piece of legislation that has been presented, passed and rejected? this is simply just a made up paragraph coming from your hateful head.

    again, this is a costs benefit analysis that has been done. the city is too low to build for a cat 5 hurricane. bush is the one who wants the build it strong enough. congress doesnt. which is also confusing why you blame "the administration" when congress is ultimately the one who decides where money is spent.

    you've said it all along huh? you are starting to sound like roland. of course we will never leave Iraq. same reason we have never leave germany, korea, or the balkins. do we get oil from those countries? no, but somehow we are still there.

    it's refreshing whenever i find one of your posts on here buddy. thanks.
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  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    Austicman wrote:
    And probably the same percentage of people think that it was a government conspiracy. That doesn't leave alot of sane people in America.


    it was an inside job!!!

    don't insinuate that you're insane if you believe anything other than the "official" story.

    the "official" story is insane!!
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  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    jeffbr wrote:
    Yes, you win the "eyes wide open" award, free from brainwashing by Fox News or YouTube.

    I'd like to think there is a solid core of us somewhere in the middle between the lunatic fringe on either side.

    if you believe 9-11 happened because of incompetence,you are the lunatic!
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


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    Emiliano Zapata
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    FredFlintstone wrote:
    http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

    "Do you think Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the September 11th, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon?"

    33% of All Adults, 40% Republicans, and 27% Dems.
    Who are these morons?? I wonder where these idiots got that idea? A little willful conflation perhaps?

    2003 State of the Union: GWB
    "Before September the 11th, many in the world believed that Saddam Hussein could be contained."


    Meet the Press (9/14/03) , Dick Cheney said:

    If we’re successful in Iraq, we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11.


    These clever statement made the intention clear. Link Iraq to 9/11 while providing reagan's old "plausable deniability". Criminals.
    Lots of sheep that follow what they're told..and don't question authority

    ...hell look at all the people that believe at one point the world was flooded and all of gods creatures got into a boat...I mean please.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    JamMastaE wrote:
    it was an inside job!!!

    don't insinuate that you're insane if you believe anything other than the "official" story.

    the "official" story is insane!!
    I'm pretty left..and totally distrust big brother...but feel our administration is to utterly incompetent to pull off 9/11 and in no way believe they had anything to do with it.....now show me some proof.....
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  • Bushleaguer28
    Bushleaguer28 Posts: 776
    callen wrote:
    I'm pretty left..and totally distrust big brother...but feel our administration is to utterly incompetent to pull off 9/11 and in no way believe they had anything to do with it.....now show me some proof.....

    this is a point ive been trying to make - everyone believes the administration and bush in particular are so incredibly dumb yet smart enough to pull off the most elaborate inside job in the history of the world and dupe 300 million people in to believing it? Gimme a break
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Are these 33% the same ones that comprise President Bush's approval rating?
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