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Over 33% of Adults still think Saddam personally involved in 9/11
FredFlintstone
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http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm
"Do you think Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the September 11th, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon?"
33% of All Adults, 40% Republicans, and 27% Dems.
Who are these morons?? I wonder where these idiots got that idea? A little willful conflation perhaps?
2003 State of the Union: GWB
"Before September the 11th, many in the world believed that Saddam Hussein could be contained."
Meet the Press (9/14/03) , Dick Cheney said:
If we’re successful in Iraq, we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11.
These clever statement made the intention clear. Link Iraq to 9/11 while providing reagan's old "plausable deniability". Criminals.
"Do you think Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the September 11th, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon?"
33% of All Adults, 40% Republicans, and 27% Dems.
Who are these morons?? I wonder where these idiots got that idea? A little willful conflation perhaps?
2003 State of the Union: GWB
"Before September the 11th, many in the world believed that Saddam Hussein could be contained."
Meet the Press (9/14/03) , Dick Cheney said:
If we’re successful in Iraq, we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11.
These clever statement made the intention clear. Link Iraq to 9/11 while providing reagan's old "plausable deniability". Criminals.
"Sean Hannity knows there is no greater threat to America today than Bill Clinton 15 years ago"- Stephen Colbert
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"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
oh come on now!
it's gotta be higher than that
How else does one explain this being reality?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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same idiots who would still vote for bush even if he decapitated a negro infant on live tv then spiked the limp headless body before going into a white mans end zone dance
idiots idiots idiots
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20733211/
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
True so true, you know War Made Easy. This administration I must say are brilliant at this world of spin. Kinda like the Nazi Party over Germany.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
it could be dick satan...or maybe because of hillary
"He (Saddam Hussein) has given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members..." Oct. 10, 2002
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
*raises hand*
I know that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11, and I also don't believe that 9/11 was a government conspiracy. It was a failure of our government's communication, but I don't believe it was a conspiracy.
So, um.......do I win something?
Yes, you win the "eyes wide open" award, free from brainwashing by Fox News or YouTube.
I'd like to think there is a solid core of us somewhere in the middle between the lunatic fringe on either side.
you win the prize of living in reality. apparently, it's not a popular place these days, so welcome
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
*clutches the little gold statuette of Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman*
I just won the "Eyes Wide Open" award!!! Yippee!!!!
Kidding aside, I would really like to get my hands on that 33%....and yank their blindfolds off.
(PS: I know, I know, it was Eyes Wide Shut....)
I'm not going to go through the whole page...that's the job of the original poster...
there is no way that in an unbiased question that 33% of people believe that. period. i'd like to see the actual question and offered responses.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
I wanted to believe that, too. But unfortunately, even with an abysmally low approval rating, a quarter of the people think Bush is doing a good job. It isn't a stretch to think that all of them, plus a few other morons would answer in the affirmative.
The source of the poll:
CBS News/New York Times Poll. Sept. 4-8, 2007. N=1,035 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3 (for all adults).
The question:
"Do you think Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the September 11th, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon?"
The results:
Yes No Unsure
% % %
ALL adults 33 58 9
Republicans 40 51 9
Democrats 27 63 10
Independents 32 60 8
So even almost 1/3 of Dems believe it! Goddam.
Ain't that some shit. I wonder out of that percentage thinks or believes we should still occupy Iraq and continue with permanent military bases???
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
As an American, and secondarily as a political scientist, and as a staunch conservative...i find that disturbing. I really do. But as a conservative i'll just say...our public education is kick ass...isn't it?
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Fortunately that number keeps shrinking. Unfortunately, it is still around 40% somehow:
"Do you think the United States should keep its military forces in Iraq until civil order is restored there, even if that means continued U.S. military casualties; or do you think the United States should withdraw its military forces from Iraq in order to avoid further U.S. military casualties, even if that means civil order is not restored there?"
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KeepForces WithdrawForces Unsure
% % %
7/18-21/07 39 59 3
4/12-15/07 42 56 2
2/22-25/07 42 56 2
1/16-19/07 46 52 3
12/7-11/06 48 48 4
10/30 - 11/2/05 52 44 4
8/25-28/05 54 44 2
6/23-26/05 58 41 2
12/16-19/04 58 39 3
6/17-20/04 57 42 1
5/20-23/04 58 40 2
4/15-18/04 66 33 1
11/12-16/03 62 34 4
10/26-29/03 58 38 3
9/10-13/03 65 32 3
8/20-24/03 69 27 4
7/9-10/03 72 26 2
It is much easier to read the poll results from the link provided in the first post. Some of the questions/answer are eye opening and a bit depressing.
http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm
To tell you the truth, it breaks my heart that the answer to this question isn't in the affirmative 100% not sure why you think commitment is "disturbing."
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Commitment for commitment sake is disturbing. That's what leads to gambling problems. A wise investor and business person knows you don't chase bad money with good. When you realize you've made a bad investment or a bad bet you cut your losses by not continuing to throw money at it. This is the same situation.
no...it's about right and wrong....period.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
When the US occupied this country of Iraq we disrupted civil order with an array of disorder and corruption.
Ever notice the threat that if we leave the country will be open to take over by countries like Iran? All done to to keep the US safely tucked away in Iraq. Fear has worked very well for this administration.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Agreed. The right thing to do is stop accumulating casualties by attempting to force democracy on an unaccepting, unwilling populace. They aren't willing to help themselves. I'm not willing to put our people in harms way to force them to.
you haven't considered the consequences of your plan. will you accept genocide? do you think that's acceptable? will you accept Iran's aggressiveness? pollitics aside...don't let it cloud your reality. THINK man
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
yes, i accept those things. the problems of the middle east are their problems. they're as happy killing each other as they are us. let them work on each other. ill worry about them once they learn how to play nice with each other.
The occupation influence is invisible to you?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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What does this mean?
I agree with soulsinging. The entire middle east is so fucked up it is time to let them go for it. Hash it out. Kill each other. When someone wins they can call us and we'll trade. Death is going to happen over there anyway. It might as well happen without us. Why is it our problem? It was going on long before we got there. It will continue long after we're gone. We might as well cut our losses.
he likes to speak in cryptic riddles rather than actually making points. it feeds his ego... his favorite tactic. he gets to ask a question nobody understands and feel like he's smarter than all the rest of us becos nobody knows what the fuck his gibberish is supposed to be saying.
that's my point though... it's none of our damn business. let's get the fuck out and stop meddling in the middle east. it's brought us nothing but bad. we've got our own problems to deal with.
Yes we have a ton of issues and problems here in this country but the problem is this administration can't profit from those problems. Our administration doesn't care about whether the average citizen can get ahead or has health insurance, etc. A whole region down in the Gulf is ignored and relegated to obscurity are they being helped really.
They're putting back in the SAME levy system which is just waiting to be destroyed again. Why not instead show the world how WE take of our own by building creating something state of the art system like they've done in Scandinavian countries to keep back the North Sea. Why can't we do that cause they don't care and the money isn't there, it's flying over Baghdad on billion $$$ cash pallets only to disappear. Their corruption is sickening.
I've said as long as there's oil left in Iraq or Iran we will NEVER EVER leave Iraq. In Saudi Arabia we don't have to worry about we already have them in our back pockets.
Peace and let the voices be heard this Saturday. StayHuman
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)