Bush reaffirms Cuba embargo

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  • TheVoiceInside
    TheVoiceInside Posts: 361
    810wmb wrote:
    the mighty US screws over another commie

    let me get an AMEN!!!!!!!!!


    there is a alot of truth to your statement. Why does the US care if Cuba is communist? what do you care? I dont give a shit. you know why? cuz I dont live in Cuba. Its not my problem. Who are we to tell the people of Cuba how they should distribute the wealth of their nation. I dont go over to my neighbors house and tell them how to manage their money. and if I did I would probably get told to mind my own business.

    If the US would just recognize the Cuban goverment and start doing business with them Im sure everything will get better and better and people who would like to go to the beach and drink mojitos could do so freely.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    TheVoiceInside wrote:
    there is a alot of truth to your statement. Why does the US care if Cuba is communist? what do you care? I dont give a shit. you know why? cuz I dont live in Cuba. Its not my problem. Who are we to tell the people of Cuba how they should distribute the wealth of their nation. I dont go over to my neighbors house and tell them how to manage their money. and if I did I would probably get told to mind my own business.

    i agree..i could care less thana shit...

    "oh it's america's fault" for every little thing is a bunch of shit.

    they have a position, we have ours.

    it's simple really...
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    810wmb wrote:
    i agree..i could care less thana shit...

    "oh it's america's fault" for every little thing is a bunch of shit.

    they have a position, we have ours.

    it's simple really...

    Like I said if you actually knew anything about the history of US-Cuban relations you might be taking a different tone. You stance is a prime example of people who are absolutely in the dark about the events that brought us to the present day situation but they regurgitate what had been spoon fed to them as if they actually have a clue.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    mammasan wrote:

    Also let's talk about Castro's muderous regime or better yet why not talk about how the US sponsored, and is now protecting, well known terrorists and the countless innocent people they killed.


    This little nuggets of truth was one of many facts I never once came across until I read Hegemony or Survival.

    Now...can someone please explain to me the US's justification for having their biggest Gulag in Cuba? I've never understood how that works...
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Drowned Out wrote:
    This little nuggets of truth was one of many facts I never once came across until I read Hegemony or Survival.

    Now...can someone please explain to me the US's justification for having their biggest Gulag in Cuba? I've never understood how that works...

    Look up all the info you can on Operation Mongoose, Operation Condor, Orlando Bosch, and Luis Posada Carriles. We are just as quilty as Iran, Syria, etc when it comes to state sponsored terrorism. What this country did to Cuba was carry out a policy of terrorism and aggression against a nation that never once threatened our security.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    Could you imagine every country that the States beat in a turf war deciding not to have anything to do with em? They'd have no friends. :)
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    mammasan wrote:
    I don't support Castro at all. He has caused so much misery and suffering in my parents' homeland, but the embargo is absolutely fucking useless. Also the US shares responsibility for the conditions in Cuba. Castro wanted friendly relations with the US when he came to power and Eisenhower even greated his assent to power with approval. It was the Cuban-American community and US corporations, like United Fruit, that presurred the US government to distance itself from Castro. We then took it a step further by starting a covert war against his government. Cuba could have been a mucg different place had we decided to take a different course of action. I also love how Bush states that we will not do business with a oppressive murderous regime, well what the fuck is Saudi Arabia and China.

    Well said.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    810wmb wrote:
    just what in the fuck were they doing?

    it's our fault ok? nobody but us ever did a fucking thing..

    You sound like the typical spoilt child who throws a tantrum when he doesn't get his own way.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You sound like the typical spoilt child who throws a tantrum when he doesn't get his own way.

    spoilt?

    anyway, coming from you that's a compliment

    you sound like every anti american left wing dolt that wasted air
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    810wmb wrote:
    spoilt?

    anyway, coming from you that's a compliment

    you sound like every anti american left wing dolt that wasted air


    he's actually and anti-american anti-Israeli pro-hamas Marxist-Leninist brit. but thats cool. we all are allowed to be whatever we want.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    he's actually and anti-american anti-Israeli pro-hamas Marxist-Leninist brit. but thats cool. we all are allowed to be whatever we want.

    You're full of shit. Period.

    In your one-eyed, skewered little view of the world, being critical of Bush et al makes someone 'anti-American'. And being critical of the Zionist Israeli government makes someone ant-Israeli, or even 'anti-semitic'.
    And for your information, I've never read Marx, or Lenin.

    So, as I said above. You're full of shit.
    And I was actually beginning to like you a few months back. Shame.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You're full of shit. Period.

    what are you getting so upset for? I was just telling the new guy who you are. something I left out? maybe pro baathist?
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Sanctions are pointless. just weakens anyone who actually wants to fight back. The leaders still live like kings.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You're full of shit. Period.

    In your one-eyed, skewered little view of the world, being critical of Bush et al makes someone 'anti-American'. And being critical of the Zionist Israeli government makes someone ant-Israeli. And for your information I've never read Marx, or Lenin.

    So, as I said above. You're full of shit.
    And I was actually beginning to like you a few months back. Shame.


    ha being critical of bush?? thats all you think you do?? I can dig of posts of yours that flat out stereotype ALL americans as brainwashed, arrogant, greedy people. and then some.....maybe I will go look it up.

    and you have specifically said you support hamas and any civilian living in an occupied territory is a justified target.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    ha being critical of bush?? thats all you think you do?? I can dig of posts of yours that flat out stereotype ALL americans as brainwashed, arrogant, greedy people. and then some.....maybe I will go look it up.

    Please do. I expect you'll find the one post where I ripped into Americans per se. This was in response to a lot of sabre-rattling against immigrants. I explained afterwards that the post was largely tonge-in-cheek. But go ahead, pounce on that one crumb and knock yourself out with it.
    jlew24asu wrote:
    and you have specifically said you support hamas and any civilian living in an occupied territory is a justified target.

    That's right.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Please do. I expect you'll find the one post where I ripped into Americans per se. This was in response to a lot of sabre-rattling against immigrants. I explained afterwards that the post was largely tonge-in-cheek. But go ahead, pounce on that one crumb and knock yourself out with it.



    That's right.

    ok then, what are you getting so upset for? looks like I nailed it.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    ok then, what are you getting so upset for? looks like I nailed it.

    You need to go back to school.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    jlew24asu wrote:
    ok then, what are you getting so upset for? looks like I nailed it.

    +1000000
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    ha being critical of bush?? thats all you think you do?? I can dig of posts of yours that flat out stereotype ALL americans as brainwashed, arrogant, greedy people. and then some.....maybe I will go look it up.

    You said you can dig up posts of mine '...that flat out stereotype ALL americans as brainwashed, arrogant, greedy people. and then some...'. Well I'm still waiting.
    Or is this just more of the same groundless, vacuous crap that we all come to expect from you on a daily basis?
    jlew24asu wrote:
    and you have specifically said you support hamas and any civilian living in an occupied territory is a justified target.

    Please explain how my saying that 'any Jew living on illegally occupied Palestinian land is a legitimate target' makes me anti-Israeli.
    Go on, give it a go. Try and stretch that earwigs brain of yours and surprise me. I'm in a fun kind of mood this evening.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You said you can dig up posts of mine '...that flat out stereotype ALL americans as brainwashed, arrogant, greedy people. and then some...'. Well I'm still waiting.
    Or is this just more of the same groundless, vacuous crap that we all come to expect from you on a daily basis?
    I dont need to. you already admitting in your above post. and then tried to run and hide saying it was all "tongue and cheek"
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Please explain how my saying that 'any Jew living on illegally occupied Palestinian land is a legitimate target' makes me anti-Israeli.
    Go on, give it a go. Try and stretch that earwigs brain of yours and surprise me. I'm in a fun kind of mood this evening.

    maybe its just my opinion that...... you supporting innocent israeli civilians being targeted...... as anti-Israeli.

    others can decide for themselves.

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