Bush reaffirms Cuba embargo
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Bush reaffirms Cuba embargo
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/25/bush.cuba/index.html
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. President George W. Bush ruled out any easing of the decades-old U.S. trade embargo on Cuba but proposed loosening some restrictions on contacts with the communist-ruled island, if more freedoms were allowed.
Appearing with relatives of jailed Cuban dissidents and prominent Cuban-Americans at the State Department, Bush on Wednesday denounced the Caribbean country as a "tropical gulag."
He said Cuba is on the cusp of "fundamental change," with 81-year-old leader Fidel Castro sidelined for more than a year after abdominal surgery.
Nonetheless, easing the embargo would be "giving oxygen to a criminal regime," he said.
"As long as the regime maintains its monopoly over the political and economic life of the Cuban people, the United States will keep the embargo in place," Bush said. The end of communism in Cuba would reveal "horrors still unknown to the rest of the world," Bush said, calling the current government "a failed regime" and in its "dying gasps."
Bush encouraged U.S. allies to offer public support for dissidents by allowing them to meet and access outside media sources at their embassies.
"The dissidents of today will be the nation's leaders tomorrow," he said. "When freedom finally comes, they will surely remember who stood with them."
The United States has barred all trade with Cuba since 1963. But Bush said his administration would ease limits on aid agencies and church groups to let them provide computers to Cubans "if Cuba's rulers will end their restrictions on Internet access for all the people."
The United States would also let Cuban students take part in Latin American scholarship programs "if the Cuban rulers will allow them to freely participate," Bush added.
The White House announced last week that Bush would lay out a new strategy for promoting free speech and multi-party elections in Cuba, which has been a thorn in the American side since the 1959 revolution that brought Castro to power. The ailing revolutionary ceded power to his brother Raul 15 months ago, and Cuban officials have not said if or when Fidel Castro would resume his duties as president.
Cuban Foreign Minister Felipe Perez Roque responded to Bush's remarks by accusing him of inciting violence and issuing a call to arms. Bush's comments were "an appeal to use force to defeat the Cuban revolution" and an attempt to "re-conquer Cuba by force," Perez Roque told reporters in Havana.
It wasn't clear if Bush was trying to incite an internal uprising or an invasion, Perez Roque said, but he warned that thousands of Cubans would defend the revolution either way.
"We react with indignation but serenity," he said.
Few Cubans heard Bush's speech. It didn't run on state-run TV or radio, so only those few with access to satellite dishes had a chance to see it. E-mail to a friend
Wow, looks like the republicans are way behind in fundraising in Florida.
another thing If I were Haiti i would turn communist, ,maybe that way the US would get some interest in me.
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/25/bush.cuba/index.html
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. President George W. Bush ruled out any easing of the decades-old U.S. trade embargo on Cuba but proposed loosening some restrictions on contacts with the communist-ruled island, if more freedoms were allowed.
Appearing with relatives of jailed Cuban dissidents and prominent Cuban-Americans at the State Department, Bush on Wednesday denounced the Caribbean country as a "tropical gulag."
He said Cuba is on the cusp of "fundamental change," with 81-year-old leader Fidel Castro sidelined for more than a year after abdominal surgery.
Nonetheless, easing the embargo would be "giving oxygen to a criminal regime," he said.
"As long as the regime maintains its monopoly over the political and economic life of the Cuban people, the United States will keep the embargo in place," Bush said. The end of communism in Cuba would reveal "horrors still unknown to the rest of the world," Bush said, calling the current government "a failed regime" and in its "dying gasps."
Bush encouraged U.S. allies to offer public support for dissidents by allowing them to meet and access outside media sources at their embassies.
"The dissidents of today will be the nation's leaders tomorrow," he said. "When freedom finally comes, they will surely remember who stood with them."
The United States has barred all trade with Cuba since 1963. But Bush said his administration would ease limits on aid agencies and church groups to let them provide computers to Cubans "if Cuba's rulers will end their restrictions on Internet access for all the people."
The United States would also let Cuban students take part in Latin American scholarship programs "if the Cuban rulers will allow them to freely participate," Bush added.
The White House announced last week that Bush would lay out a new strategy for promoting free speech and multi-party elections in Cuba, which has been a thorn in the American side since the 1959 revolution that brought Castro to power. The ailing revolutionary ceded power to his brother Raul 15 months ago, and Cuban officials have not said if or when Fidel Castro would resume his duties as president.
Cuban Foreign Minister Felipe Perez Roque responded to Bush's remarks by accusing him of inciting violence and issuing a call to arms. Bush's comments were "an appeal to use force to defeat the Cuban revolution" and an attempt to "re-conquer Cuba by force," Perez Roque told reporters in Havana.
It wasn't clear if Bush was trying to incite an internal uprising or an invasion, Perez Roque said, but he warned that thousands of Cubans would defend the revolution either way.
"We react with indignation but serenity," he said.
Few Cubans heard Bush's speech. It didn't run on state-run TV or radio, so only those few with access to satellite dishes had a chance to see it. E-mail to a friend
Wow, looks like the republicans are way behind in fundraising in Florida.
another thing If I were Haiti i would turn communist, ,maybe that way the US would get some interest in me.
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More pandering to the Cuban-American community in South Florida. Little do those a-holes down there realize that the embargo has done absolutely nothing to weaken Castro's hold on the island. All it has done is hurt the Cuban people. Sometimes I can't even stomach my own people.
Also let's talk about Castro's muderous regime or better yet why not talk about how the US sponsored, and is now protecting, well known terrorists and the countless innocent people they killed."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
mammasan wrote:More pandering to the Cuban-American community in South Florida. Little do those a-holes down there realize that the embargo has done absolutely nothing to weaken Castro's hold on the island. All it has done is hurt the Cuban people. Sometimes I can't even stomach my own people.
i agree to an extent, but the leaders represents the people. i guess we could disagree with castro, send him a kabillion dollar and let him steal it.i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat0 -
810wmb wrote:i agree to an extent, but the leaders represents the people. i guess we could disagree with castro, send him a kabillion dollar and let him steal it.
I don't support Castro at all. He has caused so much misery and suffering in my parents' homeland, but the embargo is absolutely fucking useless. Also the US shares responsibility for the conditions in Cuba. Castro wanted friendly relations with the US when he came to power and Eisenhower even greated his assent to power with approval. It was the Cuban-American community and US corporations, like United Fruit, that presurred the US government to distance itself from Castro. We then took it a step further by starting a covert war against his government. Cuba could have been a mucg different place had we decided to take a different course of action. I also love how Bush states that we will not do business with a oppressive murderous regime, well what the fuck is Saudi Arabia and China."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
mammasan wrote:I don't support Castro at all. He has caused so much misery and suffering in my parents' homeland, but the embargo is absolutely fucking useless. Also the US shares responsibility for the conditions in Cuba. Castro wanted friendly relations with the US when he came to power and Eisenhower even greated his assent to power with approval. It was the Cuban-American community and US corporations, like United Fruit, that presurred the US government to distance itself from Castro. We then took it a step further by starting a covert war against his government. Cuba could have been a mucg different place had we decided to take a different course of action. I also love how Bush states that we will not do business with a oppressive murderous regime, well what the fuck is Saudi Arabia and China.
gee didn't they have some russian missiles in there at some point?i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat0 -
810wmb wrote:gee didn't they have some russian missiles in there at some point?
Sure they did but that occurred after US hostilities where underway. Also didn't we have Missles in a country that bordered the Soviet Union, Turkey ring a bell, well before the Soviets placed missles in Cuba."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
this is what really got my attention,
"The dissidents of today will be the nation's leaders tomorrow," he said. "When freedom finally comes, they will surely remember who stood with them."
If they think that when Castro dies they can just waltz in an lead Cuba they are in for a fight. The people who had to endure and sacrifice under castro will surely have a say on the islands future.0 -
TheVoiceInside wrote:this is what really got my attention,
"The dissidents of today will be the nation's leaders tomorrow," he said. "When freedom finally comes, they will surely remember who stood with them."
If they think that when Castro dies they can just waltz in an lead Cuba they are in for a fight. The people who had to endure and sacrifice under castro will surely have a say on the islands future.
Agreed. I don't undersatnd why the dissidents who came to this country feel that they can just suplant themselves as the leaders of a new Cuba. The people of Cuba should decide not some asshole living in Miami."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
you know, our counrty is responsible for what it does, as are the others. we put up with some shit, some we don't.
you say we "share responsibility" for cuba. bullshit. where were their buddies, the russians? the cold war was happening, you choose sides. pretty fuckin simple.
we are damned if we do, damned if we don't. if we try something and fail, we're sticking our noses in others biz. if we do nothing, we're guilty as well.
how are you gonna have it both ways?i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat0 -
810wmb wrote:you know, our counrty is responsible for what it does, as are the others. we put up with some shit, some we don't.
you say we "share responsibility" for cuba. bullshit. where were their buddies, the russians? the cold war was happening, you choose sides. pretty fuckin simple.
we are damned if we do, damned if we don't. if we try something and fail, we're sticking our noses in others biz. if we do nothing, we're guilty as well.
how are you gonna have it both ways?
Castro saddled up to the Russian after we started carrying out covert actions against him. I'm not defending his actions but when one of the most powerful nations, which happens to be 90 miles away from you, is trying to kill you and another of the most powerful nations offers to help you the choice is pretty easy to make. Had we never allowed our relationship with Cuba to sour we could have avoided such entaglements as the Bay of Pigs invasion and the Cuban Missle Crisis. Remember we where the ones to initiate hostilities, not Cuba."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
810wmb wrote:
you say we "share responsibility" for cuba. bullshit. where were their buddies, the russians? the cold war was happening, you choose sides. pretty fuckin simple.
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you do know castro actually wanted close relations with the usa? it was the usa that pushed them to the russiansDOWNLOAD THE LATEST ISSUE OF The Last Reel: http://www.mediafire.com/?jdsqazrjzdt
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darkcrow wrote:you do know castro actually wanted close relations with the usa? it was the usa that pushed them to the russians
Exactly. All he wanted was that the US not intervene in Cuban affairs."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
mammasan wrote:Castro saddled up to the Russian after we started carrying out covert actions against him. I'm not defending his actions but when one of the most powerful nations, which happens to be 90 miles away from you, is trying to kill you and another of the most powerful nations offers to help you the choice is pretty easy to make. Had we never allowed our relationship with Cuba to sour we could have avoided such entaglements as the Bay of Pigs invasion and the Cuban Missle Crisis. Remember we where the ones to initiate hostilities, not Cuba.
cold war, that's the way it was.i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat0 -
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810wmb wrote:cold war, that's the way it was.
Yes and look at the consequences of our actions. We destablized Central America because of our Cold War efforts, over-threw or helped over throw democratically elected governments because of our Cold War efforts, helped create Al-Qaida because of our Cold War efforts, sponsored terrorism which resulted in the deaths of thousands of people because of our Cold War efforts, helped fuel the Islamic Revolution in Iran because of our Cold War efforts, propped up and funded oppressive and currupt dictators like Augusto Pinochet and the Shah of Iran because of our Cold War efforts. Hard to tell who was the good guy and who was the bad guy during the Cold War."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
mammasan wrote:Yes and look at the consequences of our actions. We destablized Central America because of our Cold War efforts, over-threw or helped over throw democratically elected governments because of our Cold War efforts, helped create Al-Qaida because of our Cold War efforts, sponsored terrorism which resulted in the deaths of thousands of people because of our Cold War efforts, helped fuel the Islamic Revolution in Iran because of our Cold War efforts, propped up and funded oppressive and currupt dictators like Augusto Pinochet and the Shah of Iran because of our Cold War efforts. Hard to tell who was the good guy and who was the bad guy during the Cold War.
just what in the fuck were they doing?
it's our fault ok? nobody but us ever did a fucking thing..i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat0 -
810wmb wrote:just what in the fuck were they doing?
it's our fault ok? nobody but us ever did a fucking thing..
No that's not the case either. I applaud my nation for the good it has done but at the same time I will point out it's errors as well. I'm not going to ignore the shitty stuff the US has done just because I live here."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
810wmb wrote:yes, we are the stupidest, worthless, most piece of shit nation to ever exist on the face of the earth.
we are guilty of all things wrong in this world!!!!
that is going rather overboard don't you think? i was simply stating a fact that castro actually wanted close relations with the usa but was rebuffed for reasons that have been touched upon already on this thread and so castro allied himself with russia. my enemy's enemy is my friend...DOWNLOAD THE LATEST ISSUE OF The Last Reel: http://www.mediafire.com/?jdsqazrjzdt
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darkcrow wrote:that is going rather overboard don't you think? i was simply stating a fact that castro actually wanted close relations with the usa but was rebuffed for reasons that have been touched upon already on this thread and so castro allied himself with russia. my enemy's enemy is my friend...
overboard?
maybe, sorry, just looks that way here a lot.i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat0
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