bailout bill vote

xavier mcdaniel
xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,448
edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
I'm watching the coverage on C-Span and it looks like it's not going to pass

Democrats 141 for, 94 against
Republicans 66 for, 132 against
Total 207 For, 226 Against


I'm editing the no on the democrats because I didn't see the number clearly.
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  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    supposedly, they can hold the vote open ... they'd need to switch 10 votes back to Yea ....

    one vote has already switched.

    it was amazing watching the votes come in and watching the Dow slip to nearly 700 points down ...

    dow is currently at 450 down ... but, if they close this vote against the bill ... hold onto your 401ks ...
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  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    Can I just say that I love that the phrase "crap sandwich" has been introduced into the political lexicon? :D
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,448
    final vote was 228-205 against.
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    Chicago 2007
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    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
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    Philadelphia 2024
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  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    The bill has failed ... it's done ... dow was at 450 down when the gavel was brought down ...

    here ... we .... go ...
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  • SoonForgotten2
    SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    What's the deal with this 5 minute vote now?
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  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,448
    I think this is some other things, but as of a minute ago, the dow is down 549 points.

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    Chicago 2007
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    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
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    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
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    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
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    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Glad it failed
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    We're all DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMED!!!!
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    here's a question .. .will it affect the election ...

    Obama was for this.

    McCain was waffling ... saying he was trying to get House Republican support ... will he come out now and say he was against it ... and try and get support?
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  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    the vote is still open, unbelievably people are stupid, joe public didnt understand and screamed no! so reps afraid they will lose their jobs voted no. Thanks Congress , now everyone will lose.
  • SoonForgotten2
    SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    I think this is some other things, but as of a minute ago, the dow is down 549 points.

    http://www.djindexes.com/mdsidx/index.cfm?event=showAverages

    I'm watching a CNN feed and they're mentioning something about suspending the rules and pass... I'm lost.
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  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    SoonForgotten2 wrote:
    I'm watching a CNN feed and they're mentioning something about suspending the rules and pass... I'm lost.


    so, there is a clock on the vote ... the clock hit 0:00 but, they left the vote "open" ... obviously trying to get people to switch their votes .. (I guess there wa a medicaid bill that was open for 3 hours before .... )

    but, they made the announcement in the house that the voting is over, the gavel came down ... it has failed, and the House is now onto other buisness ... so, it's is DONE. Fail ... no more ... kaput ...
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  • catch22
    catch22 Posts: 1,081
    jimed14 wrote:
    The bill has failed ... it's done ... dow was at 450 down when the gavel was brought down ...

    here ... we .... go ...

    i hope the whole fucking thing collapses. serves these fuckers right for playing a game with imaginary money for the last 80 years.

    what i don't get is how people can be "experts" on the economy, go to top business schools, and still have less grasp of reality than a guy like me. they only now figure out that if people default on mortgages they might not get their money back because nobody else wants to buy a shitty house?

    fuck these motherfuckers. i hope they all burn in hell.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • SoonForgotten2
    SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    jimed14 wrote:
    so, there is a clock on the vote ... the clock hit 0:00 but, they left the vote "open" ... obviously trying to get people to switch their votes .. (I guess there wa a medicaid bill that was open for 3 hours before .... )

    but, they made the announcement in the house that the voting is over, the gavel came down ... it has failed, and the House is now onto other buisness ... so, it's is DONE. Fail ... no more ... kaput ...

    Ok, clearly these people on the feed have no idea what they're talking about. They're now backtracking and saying it has failed. That was really odd.
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  • Keiran
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    jimed14 wrote:
    so, there is a clock on the vote ... the clock hit 0:00 but, they left the vote "open" ... obviously trying to get people to switch their votes .. (I guess there wa a medicaid bill that was open for 3 hours before .... )

    but, they made the announcement in the house that the voting is over, the gavel came down ... it has failed, and the House is now onto other buisness ... so, it's is DONE. Fail ... no more ... kaput ...

    I think they have the option to appeal to the rules committee and reintroduce the bill for another vote. But they may be forced to rework the measure to appeal to more reps. Who knows??? Sometimes I think they make this up as they go along.
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  • blackredyellow
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    jimed14 wrote:
    here's a question .. .will it affect the election ...

    Obama was for this.

    McCain was waffling ... saying he was trying to get House Republican support ... will he come out now and say he was against it ... and try and get support?

    I don't think it will affect much... Both candidates used pretty much the same language riding the fence on it. It's not like either championed it or railed against it.
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  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    so they didnt like the results of the vote, so they are going to re vote?
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,448
    jimed14 wrote:
    here's a question .. .will it affect the election ...

    Obama was for this.

    McCain was waffling ... saying he was trying to get House Republican support ... will he come out now and say he was against it ... and try and get support?

    I haven't been following the specifications of the bill, but was this an ameneded version where the democrats put in provisions that would prompt the Republicans to vote against it?

    Or did it contain a lot of the original things put in by President Bush and the republicans just didn't agree with him?
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  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Keiran wrote:
    I think they have the option to appeal to the rules committee and reintroduce the bill for another vote. But they may be forced to rework the measure to appeal to more reps. Who knows??? Sometimes I think they make this up as they go along.


    indeed, they may need to concede more to the house repubs and then reintroduce.

    in the mean time ... we'll see if businesses, even small businesses start feeling a huge crunch to get credit, and of so ... will businesses start failing .... or ... is the sky not really falling?
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  • Keiran
    Keiran Posts: 393
    jimed14 wrote:


    in the mean time ... we'll see if businesses, even small businesses start feeling a huge crunch to get credit, and of so ... will businesses start failing .... or ... is the sky not really falling?


    Indeed, that is the $64,000 question or in this case the $700 billion question.
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