Nugent is a coward

RainDog wrote:

Somehow, I don't think the nuge was part of the anti-vietnam side of things. I could be wrong. I am pretty sure he's been Mr. - um - "hardassed" conservative his entire life, though; so I don't buy it that his views have changed all that much.

But that's not the point. The point is, the nuge is a whiny titmouse hypocrite of a human being who simply doesn't have the stones to take what he dishes out. Oh, and his music is tepid, flavorless tripe that doesn't match the bombast that comes out of his mouth - so I'll take any opportunity to exercise my first amendment rights and bash the idiot. Doesn't mean I want him censored.

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I'm running those numbers in my head... because I am also, 51. That means I was born between September 1955 and August 1956, right? Well, in 1972, the last the lottery for Viet Nam... I was a junior in High School... at age 16. The minimum age for the draft was and remains 18.
I DID participate in the last draft lottery... when number were drawn... and ended up in the 300s. Back then, we were classified as 1H... which meant in case of national need, our classification would convert to 1A.
I remember being afraid for my older brother and friends... and the uncertainty of the future. But, by 1972, U.S. Troops were being drawn down to about 24,000 (150,000+ from 1971) as the Vietnamization of South Viet Nam was taking place. More soldiers were being sent home and not many (except comanders and rear guard) were being re-deployed.
There was no way I would have been sent to Viet Nam... the looming fear began to emerge in the 1970s in Central America... but, by then, the Draft was not a factor.
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ADD -
I located the end of the draft:
"Section 4 of Pub. L. 93-176 provided that: "This Act [amending this section and section 5102 of Title 5, Government Organization and Employees, and enacting provisions set out as notes under this section] shall take effect not later than the beginning of the first pay period which begins on or after the ninetieth day following the date of the enactment of this Act [Dec. 5, 1973]."
Ref. http://www.access.gpo.gov/uscode/title50a/50a_9_1_.html

U.S. Troops levels in Viet Nam in 1973:
50
source:
http://members.aol.com/warlibrary/vwatl.htm

Cosmo wrote:

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You know you are asking for something that does not exist, right?

It's a bad habit I've fallen into with certain posters

Can I blame this on chemo-brain?

Uh-oh, I feel the urge coming on, I think I'm gonna do it again .........

onelongsong wrote:

you've been dogging me since i proved you wrong on the gay marriage thread a few months back. why don't you find another hobby.

Wow, I don't even remember that one. Gonna have to go search for that, I don't remember EVER being proved wrong by you.

My main memories of you are your incessant errant claims about the constitution.

And asking you to back up your claims with evidence is not "dogging."

EDIT: Was that the one where you told everyone that polygamy was perfectly legal in Utah, until I directed you to the Utah Attorney General's website which clearly states that polygamy is illegal? Hoo boy, you sure had me there!

Oh yeah...

http://www.tednugent.com/

Nice raunchy groove on the into...but cheesy lyrics

By the way, isnt Nugent only doing this stuff to promote his new album? It comes out soon, apparently.

Nothing like a little bit of publicity.

I love the mondo rise in this sweet camo cap Nugent:
http://cache.idolator.com/assets/resources/2007/01/Ted%20Nugent.JPG

Charlie Manson eat your heart out Nugent:
http://www.psotd.com/files/tednugent1978.jpg

It's really a thong in the back Nugent:
http://www.dannyclifford.com/PublicationImages/MelodyMaker/1980/MM-Cover-Ted-Nugent-June-19.jpg

Role Model Nugent:
http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/12.01.04/gifs/dining-0449.jpg

Recurring dream Nugent:
http://www.rockcandyrecords.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/Nugent%20Scream%20Dream1.jpg

My kind or threesome Nugent:
http://www.heartsillranch.com/images/TedAoudads9.JPG

onelongsong wrote:

there's several reasons. prior to the election bush made it clear that we were going into iraq if saddam didn't allow inspections. we elected him knowing he would deal with saddam. i don't know why it's such a surprise to everyone except that people only hear what they want to hear.
the vietnam war was meant to fight communism; and fueled by paranoia. iraq was to unseat a dictator that didn't play by the rules the rest of the world had to follow; and who also killed thousands of innocent people (genocide).
if we're there for oil; the iraqi people own that oil and will continue to own that oil until they sell it. if saddam was still in power; he'd own the oil until he sold it. once it hits the market it doesn't matter who buys it. war or not; saddam or not; that oil was and is going to hit the world market.

who makes the rules for the world? just curious

onelongsong wrote:

there's several reasons. prior to the election bush made it clear that we were going into iraq if saddam didn't allow inspections. we elected him knowing he would deal with saddam. i don't know why it's such a surprise to everyone except that people only hear what they want to hear.
the vietnam war was meant to fight communism; and fueled by paranoia. iraq was to unseat a dictator that didn't play by the rules the rest of the world had to follow; and who also killed thousands of innocent people (genocide).
if we're there for oil; the iraqi people own that oil and will continue to own that oil until they sell it. if saddam was still in power; he'd own the oil until he sold it. once it hits the market it doesn't matter who buys it. war or not; saddam or not; that oil was and is going to hit the world market.

I thought the Iraq war was fueled by fear and (evildoers terrorists etc.) basically all a lie to have control of vast amounts of rapidly depleting fossil fuels.

gabers wrote:

So, does Nugent actually eat all of these animals he kills or is it just for the bloodsport? I'll venture to say a lot of them are either mounted or discarded. I think even ol' onelong could say that ain't right...

That's a lot (shitload) of red meat...poor old Ted's heart (and family) is/are about to fail any day soon I imagine...the cholesterol alone.

It could be perception though, but it seems a lot...hard to say..

I probably eat about 2 - 3 chickens a week. I'm not sure how long it would take me to eat an entire bison though... probably 4 -5 months...

chadwick wrote:

In my opinion Ted is a piece of shit.
In my opinion Ted is a chicken shit turd in his pants piss stained old prick.
In my opinion Ted can go suck on a big long dick.
Ted, some of your music is decent at best (in my opinion).
Ted, alot or most of your music sucks smaller dicks than you do (in my opinion).


Being obsessed with shooting animals to eat
these days is something that need not be done.

And Ted, to kill an animal for the use of its
head/fur as a trophy on your walls only shows
me you are a true cocksucker and a pussy.

I appreciate your views. However living along the lines of nature ensures that many will conquer a beast in the name food and survival.

Ted is a hopeless gun freak when it comes to politics and can't see past his overflowing cum stained ammo clip, however he is essentially on the money when it comes to surviving in the wild.

Overpopulation...were too good at procreating...the horn dogs we are.

China is the canary in the coal mine...study China if you want to know what's coming up for a slice of reality.

Seriously...look into China and how they live. You will shit..

Then look back at Bush... edit:and realize how insane or necessary it is. (insane is peace...war is necessary) or is it?