Gun-free zones are recipe for disaster

Some teachers should definately be armed. Arming students is just asking for more shootings.

An interviewer from the British newspaper The Independent questioned Nugent about a 1977 interview in High Times magazine in which Nugent allegedly detailed elaborate steps taken to avoid the Vietnam draft.

"I got 30 days' notice of the physical," Nugent told them. "I ceased cleansing my body. Two weeks before the test I stopped eating food with nutritional value. A week before, I stopped going to the bathroom. I did it in my pants. My pants got crusted up."

While not denying that he made the statements, Nugent dismissed their veracity, claiming that when confronted with 'glazed-eyed' interviewers, he would "make stories up." He explained that he did not go to Vietnam because he had a 1 year student deferment. When questioned, he admitted that he had "not wanted to get his ass blown off in Vietnam," but made note of a tour he made with the USO in 2004 to Fallujah and Afghanistan as support of his assertion that "I am not a coward." He also said that "Because I failed to serve in Vietnam, I feel an obligation now, to do everything I can to support those defending our freedom. Do I feel guilt and embarrassment? Yes.

Jimmydean55 wrote:

I would like to hear what Ted would say about gun control if it was one of his children that were shot dead.

i'd be interested in that response also...

Im still here wrote:

Ignorance is not bliss

Ignorance is just that, Ignorance

if we were all armed: criminals, insane mass murderers, and anyone else who thought of doing something stupid would definitely think twice

That's assuming INSANE mass murderers are rational..................

I think we can all agree that most people who kill others have some serious problem and may not rationalize their actions prior to going ahead with them.

69charger wrote:

So let's just continue to go about our business unprotected so that armed criminals can do whatever they want while the more 'evolved' humans continue to set themselves up to be the perfect unarmed victims.

Great plan! :rolleyes:

You have police in the US, right? It's their job to keep you safe and protect you. It's their job to keep guns off the black market... Maybe it's time the US had a police reform. Perhaps they can focus on the gun problem a little more, everyone keeps saying how extremely easy it is to get your hands on a gun illegally, why not try to change that with some real action.

If people want to be unarmed let them be unarmed. Perhaps they're against guns as a matter of principle, perhaps they're just not as afraid as you are.

I think it makes more sense to get guns out of the hands of criminals instead of putting guns into the hands of citizens.

I don't have a problem with people owning guns (not a big or serious problem anyway) but if I lived in the US and people seriously considered bringing more guns into schools, arming teachers and/or even students... I'd definitely have a problem with that. If American students need to carry guns on the campuses so as to feel safe, I think there is a serious problem.

Im still here wrote:

I am going to site Statute, I really hope you will research this because I am not in the mood to spoon feed anyone today.......

District of Columbia vs Heller clearly states:

"the Police have no duty to protect you."

Does it also state that the police has no duty to enforce the law?

Collin wrote:

School shooters wouldn't. They commit suicide anyway. Oh shit, there goes your theory.

Um, the point is that the School Shooter would never get the opportunity to kill 32 people and seriously injure a few dozen more. He'd be neutalized, immediately. That's the point.

You see, I'm not concerned with the shooter/murderer's health. I'm not concerned with the shooters welfare and outcome (how he'll come through all it. )

I'm concerned with innocent men, women and children......the victims or potential victims of the shooter.

If he killed himself before actually hurting anyone, because people were armed and drawing on him. So be it.

It's time to stop having more sympathy for lunatic criminals/murderers and worry about the victims or potential victims.

OutOfBreath wrote:

How about treating these "lunatics"? Then there won't be as much of a problem from the get-go...

Peace
Dan

High quality, affordable physical and mental health care would be a great place to start. Physical and mental health care that is not designed to reap a gazillion dollars for pharmaceutical companies, doctors and hospitals.

Rather a physical and mental health care system that is designed to actually keep people healthy by stressing a healthy lifestyle, preventive concepts and solutions that actually cure problems; rather than apply a band-aid or mask the problem.....for the short-term.

But you're never going to find/treat every individual with issues. Many refuse to even meet with a therapist/psychologist; nevermind getting them to take medications. Secondly, many will shoe no signs till they explode and tip over the edge.

Certainly you're not suggestion a forced/enforced submission of standardized tests to every man, woman and child. That would be......fascist.


Furthermore, start teaching your children that competing developes/builds character and that adversity teaches, strengthens and developes wisdom.

Teach your children to suck it up, have integrity and be good winners and good losers; when they compete. Be a real parent and lead by example. Set the example and live the example. Discipline, educate, respect and communicate with your children. Teach them the concept of boundries and structure in their lives. Love them, nurture them but also teach them to be mentally strong and tough.

Stop permitting your children to get completely absorbed in pop culture, video games, the internet and mindless nonsense. Take them outdoors for sports, games, activities or even just walks to check out nature (trees, birds, lizards, ducks....what ever). Get them involved in family activities, community activities, recreational sports (if they're interested in sports), charities, fund raisers, music, the arts ...etc.

There's a reason we go through emotional anguish and turmoil. Because we feel. It strengthens us and builds characther and wisdom. No need for a pill.

Just work your way through it and fight through it.

Not every depression requires a pill. Depression is normal within the human condition. Only when it lasts for an extended amount of time, does it require some more attention. Human beings have been dealing with depression, mental illness and other emotional problems for thousands of years. That's the way we are.

My parent, my grandparents...your parents...your grandparents......our great grandparents all went through it. They ddn't run amuck with weapons killing anyone and everyone in their path (unless they were religious crusaders, that is). For the most part, people dealt with their problems and worked and fought through it.

Stop spoiling children and catering to their every whim. teach them the value of hard work, earning one's keep and the value of money. hey, and while were at it, teach the children some fuckin' manners.....when interacting with other human beings!!! Teach them responsibility and accountability.

Stop being overly sensitve. Learn to take a joke and put ignorance into it's proper perspective. A tit is just a tit. While extremely appealing, a tit never harmed anyone; unless it was attatched to an axe-wielding maniacal woman. A penis ain't a missle, it just looks like one. If you're highly offended or sickened bybthe sight of a human penis or breast; then you have major issues that run much deeper than a penis or tit. So stop spreading and tranferring your lunacy to your children! A penis and tit are part of our human bodies. They are not evil, not disgusting and certainly not going to damage anyone's mental stability, buy simply existing or being photgraphed or filmed. What damages our children's mental stability is when they see their parents reacting/responding to a penis or tit as if they just witnessed a horrific, blood-splattering murder. That's what fucks up the kid's minds. It confuses them and makes them wonder how a part of their own body could be precieved as so evil and damaging.

Ignorance is simply ignorance. Stop fueling and feeding ignorance by making a big deal out of every little thing some ignorant moron says or does. Stop sensationalizing and giving the ignorant a platform and cause to continue their stupidity in the public eye. None of these shhotings or shooters should be widely covered and displayed on TV. No shooter should even have his name mentioned on the TV, nor his picture flashed on the screen....a billion times. Stop feeding their lunacy and giving them the platform to be "famous" and "go down in history".

Teach your children that idealistic concepts and dreams are wonderful, but that reality awaits outside the door. And the reality of human behavior will always impose on idelaistc concepts.

The people of this country have become pathetic. There's a friggin coalition or organized group representing every damn walk of life and scouring the telivised media, news print and every other form of media; in search of something they can twist and spin into a "so very offensive .....or racist ...or discrimnitory " issue. These people want every American to do verbal gymnastics every time they speak, so as to prevent anyone from being offended. Oh my, how delicate we have become:rolleyes:


Pretty soon we'll have a coalition protecting the verbal expolits of those who may speak ill of rocks, bushes, ducks and gusts of wind.

Hey, ducks are people too, don't speak ill of ducks:rolleyes:

Soon tornadoes won't be tornadoes. They'll be Misguided Neglected and Abused Air Masses only trying to get in touch with their inner child and their parental cumulonimbus cloud base:rolleyes:


These are the reasons why these shootings are occuring. This country has been raising spineless, overly-sensitive, spolied jellyfish for 20...30 years.

NMyTree wrote:

This country has been raising spineless, overly-sensitive, spolied jellyfish for 20...30 years.

that's true, but that being said, there are still millions of people with genuine mental illness who need to be on- and STAY on- their meds, for their sake as well as society's.

surely you're not suggesting that ALL cases of mental illness are just spoiled children masquerading as head cases?