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Global warming the fuck exists

eekamouseeekamouse Posts: 267
edited March 2008 in A Moving Train
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/03/25/antartica.collapse.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

More Proof.

Robots need to refute that link somehow... with science. I haven't seen any science to tell me the icecaps are NOT melting.

Oh they will bring up shit like sun temperature, or the temperature of one town in some location on earth, ignoring the average temperature of entire continents all together.

Go for it. Find something credible to refute it. Try. I'll send you money via Paypal if you do.

We at least contribute to global warming, if we aren't the primary cause of it.

Going green is good.
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  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    lol nice thread title
  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    how much are you going to send to my paypal addy?



    http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Widescale+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm
  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    pay up


    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88520025
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    The ice age wasnt handled right either. They should have taxed everything to stop it.
  • eekamouseeekamouse Posts: 267
    Nevermind wrote:
    The ice age wasnt handled right either. They should have taxed everything to stop it.

    Right. Where do I advocate fixing it with taxes? It fucking exists... period. How we fix it isn't the discussion here.
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  • eekamouseeekamouse Posts: 267
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    how much are you going to send to my paypal addy?



    http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Widescale+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm

    I won't be sending any money. Temperature schmemperature.

    http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/envronmt/climate/2007/0706wfp.htm

    Global Warming = Erratic Crazy Batshit weather.. not "warmer" weather.
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  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    eekamouse wrote:
    Right. Where do I advocate fixing it with taxes? It fucking exists... period. How we fix it isn't the discussion here.

    actually it doesnt exist. sorry, I really hate to rain on your parade and super intelligent thread title :(
  • eekamouseeekamouse Posts: 267
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    pay up


    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88520025

    No. That article is inconclusive...
    TFA wrote:
    "Global warming doesn't mean every year will be warmer than the last. And it may be that we are in a period of less rapid warming."
    TFA wrote:
    One possibility is that the sea has, in fact, warmed and expanded — and scientists are somehow misinterpreting the data from the diving buoys.
    TFA wrote:
    It's also possible that some of the heat has gone even deeper into the ocean, he says. Or it's possible that scientists need to correct for some other feature of the planet they don't know about. It's an exciting time, though, with all this new data about global sea temperature, sea level and other features of climate.
    TFA wrote:
    Trenberth and Willis agree that a few mild years have no effect on the long-term trend of global warming. But they say there are still things to learn about how our planet copes with the heat.
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  • eekamouseeekamouse Posts: 267
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    actually it doesnt exist.

    Prove it then.
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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Proove it exists.
  • eekamouseeekamouse Posts: 267
    Nevermind wrote:
    Proove it exists.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/03/25/antartica.collapse.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
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  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    Nevermind wrote:
    Proove it exists.

    Global warming the fuck exists!
  • Its Evolution BabyIts Evolution Baby Posts: 849
    Here we go again with a debate whether its man made or not. That shit doesn't matter people.

    Fact: We have pollution in our water and air that is man made.

    Fact: We are running out of fossil fuels.

    Fact: I paid $3.81 a gallon for gas this weekend.

    Fact: That will only go up.

    So why do we keep arguing about global warming. We should go Green to protect the environment, protect our wallets, and save our remaining fossil fuels for as long as possible.

    The argument for not going Green is I like my SUV, and since I don't believe in Global Warming why should I participate in Green programs.

    It's just really sad to me how people can be so self centered.
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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    eekamouse wrote:
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/03/25/antartica.collapse.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
    80% of solar systems we discovered have 2 suns. We might have one aswell.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Its Evolution Baby wrote:
    Here we go again with a debate whether its man made or not. That shit doesn't matter people.

    Fact: We have pollution in our water and air that is man made.

    Fact: We are running out of fossil fuels.

    Fact: I paid $3.81 a gallon for gas this weekend.

    Fact: That will only go up.

    So why do we keep arguing about global warming. We should go Green to protect the environment, protect our wallets, and save our remaining fossil fuels for as long as possible.

    The argument for not going Green is I like my SUV, and since I don't believe in Global Warming why should I participate in Green programs.

    It's just really sad to me how people can be so self centered.
    I dont think oil prices have anything to do with global warming.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Its Evolution Baby wrote:
    Here we go again with a debate whether its man made or not. That shit doesn't matter people.

    It doesn't matter when arguing whether or not global warming exists. I agree. We're either warming or we aren't.

    I does matter when solutions to curbing or reversing global warming involve changing our behavior. If our behavior isn't the cause, changing our behavior isn't the solution. If our behavior is the cause, we can decide whether changing our behavior drastically enough to make a difference makes sense.
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    jeffbr wrote:
    I does matter when solutions to curbing or reversing global warming involve changing our behavior. If our behavior isn't the cause, changing our behavior isn't the solution. If our behavior is the cause, we can decide whether changing our behavior drastically enough to make a difference makes sense.
    But it kinda matters on this one if we are wrong.
  • Its Evolution BabyIts Evolution Baby Posts: 849
    Nevermind wrote:
    I dont think oil prices have anything to do with global warming.

    Figures you pick out the one thing in my post that has nothing to do with the topic. It also proves my point.

    If we don't change our behavior it COULD lead to global warming. If we change our behavior it will clean up the air. Have you been to Los Angeles? Its disgusting and you can't say the air was like that before we overpopulated the area.

    But even if you don't believe all of that my point is that gas is going up so that you can go green to save yourself money.

    There is no good reason not to go green. If my uncle Jeff gave up driving his BMW into SF everyday then anyone can because this guy loves his fucking Beamer.
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  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    eekamouse wrote:
    I won't be sending any money. Temperature schmemperature.

    http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/envronmt/climate/2007/0706wfp.htm

    Global Warming = Erratic Crazy Batshit weather.. not "warmer" weather.

    here's your proof dude.

    http://www.oism.org/pproject/GWReview_OISM150.pdf

    end of page 2 and top of 3.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Commy wrote:
    But it kinda matters on this one if we are wrong.

    It depends on what we're wrong about, I suppose.

    I was listening to NPR last week and they were saying that if we all completely stopped driving our cars it would result in only a single digit decrease in CO2 emmissions. If that is the case it would be wrong to create all kinds of restrictive regulations aimed at automakers and consumers and then pat ourselves on the back and stop there. If CO2 emmissions are going to occur at levels that create the problem with or without human input, it would be wrong to create economic and regulatory hardship on industries, thereby raising the cost of goods for people who already have trouble affording them those goods. If our CO2 emmissions are the cause of this climate change, and there are clear, practical and realistic ways to control them with clear and measurable results, and we don't pursue them, that would be shortsighted.

    There are lots of problems associated with being wrong about this from all sorts of different angles. That's why it is probably a good idea to understand what we can and can't fix before we try. Just doing something can be as bad as just doing nothing.
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  • PJ_SalukiPJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    I'm worried about our oceans. Most of the world's population lives within a couple hours of a coast. Water temperatures and pollution levels are rising. Reefs are dying. Overfishing is rampant. With the way the world's population is increasing, we're going to need intelligent fishing to help provide food. Talk all you want about the ice caps and the air, but if the oceans go, we're fucked. And while there may not be a consensus on actual climate change, I think the problems of the oceans have been pretty well documented.
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  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    Its Evolution Baby wrote:
    Here we go again with a debate whether its man made or not. That shit doesn't matter people.

    Fact: We have pollution in our water and air that is man made.

    Fact: We are running out of fossil fuels.

    Fact: I paid $3.81 a gallon for gas this weekend.

    Fact: That will only go up.

    So why do we keep arguing about global warming. We should go Green to protect the environment, protect our wallets, and save our remaining fossil fuels for as long as possible.

    The argument for not going Green is I like my SUV, and since I don't believe in Global Warming why should I participate in Green programs.

    It's just really sad to me how people can be so self centered.

    This is sort of what I have always thought about this whole debate. It is like saying you don't need to quit smoking because some scientists say it doesn't cause cancer. Meanwhile your teeth are yellow, you smell bad, your skin looks gross and you can't walk up a flight of stairs without losing your breath. You might not be getting cancer but it is still fucking up your life. The same way air pollution and burning fossil fuels might not cause global warming but it is not like it is a good thing otherwise.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
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  • eekamouseeekamouse Posts: 267
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    here's your proof dude.

    http://www.oism.org/pproject/GWReview_OISM150.pdf

    end of page 2 and top of 3.

    I call bullshit. The paper CLEARLY shows the globe warming. No doubt about that.

    The two figures that you pinpoint are refuted...

    here.. http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/309/5742/1844

    and here.. http://www.spc.noaa.gov/publications/mccarthy/tor30yrs.pdf

    I was taking it seriously until this quote....
    Puff Piece wrote:
    While CO2 levels have in creased substantially and are expected to
    continue doing so and hu mans have been responsible for part of this
    increase, the effect on the environment has been benign.
    There is, however, one very dangerous possibility.

    Our industrial and technological civilization depends upon abundant,
    low-cost energy. This civilization has already brought unprecedented
    prosperity to the people of the more developed nations.
    Billions of people in the less developed nations are now lifting themselves
    from poverty by adopting this technology.

    Hydrocarbons are essential sources of energy to sustain and ex -
    tend prosperity. This is especially true of the developing nations,
    where avail able cap ital and technology are in sufficient to meet rap -
    idly increasing energy needs without extensive use of hydrocarbon
    fuels. If, through misunderstanding of the underly ng science and
    through misguided public fear and hysteria, mankind significantly ra -
    tions and restricts the use of hydrocarbons, the worldwide in crease in
    prosperity will stop. The result would be vast human suffering and
    the loss of hundreds of millions of human lives. Moreover, the pros -
    perity of those in the developedcoun tries would be greatly reduced.

    How the fuck do they know? Who's to say an increase that alternative energy sources would destroy "prosperity".

    Those last two sentences really sink home... ROFL... Pure shit.
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  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    wow eeky you need to go into some type of global warming detox program or something. does al gore have you on the payroll? seriously, how much you gettin?

    so bascially any evidence that is presented to you, you call bullshit!


    GLOBAL WARMING THE FUCK EXISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!$#$#@!%!#$%@#$%@#$%#$%%#$%#$
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    actually it doesnt exist. sorry, I really hate to rain on your parade and super intelligent thread title :(

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7313264.stm
    Tuesday, 25 March 2008, 16:55 GMT

    Antarctic shelf 'hangs by thread'
    By Helen Briggs
    Science reporter, BBC News

    A chunk of ice the size of the Isle of Man has started to break away from Antarctica in what scientists say is further evidence of a warming climate.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Its Evolution Baby wrote:
    Figures you pick out the one thing in my post that has nothing to do with the topic. It also proves my point.

    If we don't change our behavior it COULD lead to global warming. If we change our behavior it will clean up the air. Have you been to Los Angeles? Its disgusting and you can't say the air was like that before we overpopulated the area.

    But even if you don't believe all of that my point is that gas is going up so that you can go green to save yourself money.

    There is no good reason not to go green. If my uncle Jeff gave up driving his BMW into SF everyday then anyone can because this guy loves his fucking Beamer.
    if i picked out the one thing that had nothing to do with the topic im sorry. Maybe you shouldnt have used it as one of your arguements for the causes of global warming.
  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    Byrnzie wrote:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7313264.stm
    Tuesday, 25 March 2008, 16:55 GMT

    Antarctic shelf 'hangs by thread'
    By Helen Briggs
    Science reporter, BBC News

    A chunk of ice the size of the Isle of Man has started to break away from Antarctica in what scientists say is further evidence of a warming climate.


    yea I hear about that, this is from the yahoo article...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080326/ap_on_sc/antarctica_collapse;_ylt=Ak4uWoVMY01BiHrzmk4GLFas0NUE

    Much of the continent is not warming and some parts are even cooling, Vaughan said. However, the western peninsula, which includes the Wilkins ice shelf, juts out into the ocean and is warming. This is the part of the continent where scientists are most concern about ice-melt triggering sea level rise.

    read up dude.

    http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature...ticle10866.htm

    http://www.oism.org/pproject/GWReview_OISM150.pdf
  • eekamouseeekamouse Posts: 267
    Solat13 wrote:
    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23411799-7583,00.html

    Talk about cherry picking statistics....

    Check this out...

    http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20080116/208422main_global_temp_change.jpg
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  • eekamouseeekamouse Posts: 267
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    wow eeky you need to go into some type of global warming detox program or something. does al gore have you on the payroll? seriously, how much you gettin?

    so bascially any evidence that is presented to you, you call bullshit!


    GLOBAL WARMING THE FUCK EXISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!$#$#@!%!#$%@#$%@#$%#$%%#$%#$

    Sounds like someone who just got refuted hands down... sorry.
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