Global warming the fuck exists

eekamouse

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/03/25/antartica.collapse.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

More Proof.

Robots need to refute that link somehow... with science. I haven't seen any science to tell me the icecaps are NOT melting.

Oh they will bring up shit like sun temperature, or the temperature of one town in some location on earth, ignoring the average temperature of entire continents all together.

Go for it. Find something credible to refute it. Try. I'll send you money via Paypal if you do.

We at least contribute to global warming, if we aren't the primary cause of it.

Going green is good.

lazymoon13

lol nice thread title

lazymoon13

how much are you going to send to my paypal addy?



http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Widescale+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm

lazymoon13

pay up


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88520025

Nevermind

The ice age wasnt handled right either. They should have taxed everything to stop it.

eekamouse

Nevermind wrote:

The ice age wasnt handled right either. They should have taxed everything to stop it.

Right. Where do I advocate fixing it with taxes? It fucking exists... period. How we fix it isn't the discussion here.

eekamouse

lazymoon13 wrote:

how much are you going to send to my paypal addy?



http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Widescale+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm

I won't be sending any money. Temperature schmemperature.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/envronmt/climate/2007/0706wfp.htm

Global Warming = Erratic Crazy Batshit weather.. not "warmer" weather.

lazymoon13

eekamouse wrote:

Right. Where do I advocate fixing it with taxes? It fucking exists... period. How we fix it isn't the discussion here.

actually it doesnt exist. sorry, I really hate to rain on your parade and super intelligent thread title :(

eekamouse

lazymoon13 wrote:

pay up


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88520025

No. That article is inconclusive...

TFA wrote:

"Global warming doesn't mean every year will be warmer than the last. And it may be that we are in a period of less rapid warming."

TFA wrote:

One possibility is that the sea has, in fact, warmed and expanded — and scientists are somehow misinterpreting the data from the diving buoys.

TFA wrote:

It's also possible that some of the heat has gone even deeper into the ocean, he says. Or it's possible that scientists need to correct for some other feature of the planet they don't know about. It's an exciting time, though, with all this new data about global sea temperature, sea level and other features of climate.

TFA wrote:

Trenberth and Willis agree that a few mild years have no effect on the long-term trend of global warming. But they say there are still things to learn about how our planet copes with the heat.

eekamouse

lazymoon13 wrote:

actually it doesnt exist.

Prove it then.

Nevermind

Proove it exists.

eekamouse

Nevermind wrote:

Proove it exists.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/03/25/antartica.collapse.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

lazymoon13

Nevermind wrote:

Proove it exists.

Global warming the fuck exists!

Its Evolution Baby

Here we go again with a debate whether its man made or not. That shit doesn't matter people.

Fact: We have pollution in our water and air that is man made.

Fact: We are running out of fossil fuels.

Fact: I paid $3.81 a gallon for gas this weekend.

Fact: That will only go up.

So why do we keep arguing about global warming. We should go Green to protect the environment, protect our wallets, and save our remaining fossil fuels for as long as possible.

The argument for not going Green is I like my SUV, and since I don't believe in Global Warming why should I participate in Green programs.

It's just really sad to me how people can be so self centered.

Nevermind

eekamouse wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/03/25/antartica.collapse.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

80% of solar systems we discovered have 2 suns. We might have one aswell.

Nevermind

Its Evolution Baby wrote:

Here we go again with a debate whether its man made or not. That shit doesn't matter people.

Fact: We have pollution in our water and air that is man made.

Fact: We are running out of fossil fuels.

Fact: I paid $3.81 a gallon for gas this weekend.

Fact: That will only go up.

So why do we keep arguing about global warming. We should go Green to protect the environment, protect our wallets, and save our remaining fossil fuels for as long as possible.

The argument for not going Green is I like my SUV, and since I don't believe in Global Warming why should I participate in Green programs.

It's just really sad to me how people can be so self centered.

I dont think oil prices have anything to do with global warming.

jeffbr

Its Evolution Baby wrote:

Here we go again with a debate whether its man made or not. That shit doesn't matter people.

It doesn't matter when arguing whether or not global warming exists. I agree. We're either warming or we aren't.

I does matter when solutions to curbing or reversing global warming involve changing our behavior. If our behavior isn't the cause, changing our behavior isn't the solution. If our behavior is the cause, we can decide whether changing our behavior drastically enough to make a difference makes sense.

Commy

jeffbr wrote:

I does matter when solutions to curbing or reversing global warming involve changing our behavior. If our behavior isn't the cause, changing our behavior isn't the solution. If our behavior is the cause, we can decide whether changing our behavior drastically enough to make a difference makes sense.

But it kinda matters on this one if we are wrong.

Its Evolution Baby

Nevermind wrote:

I dont think oil prices have anything to do with global warming.

Figures you pick out the one thing in my post that has nothing to do with the topic. It also proves my point.

If we don't change our behavior it COULD lead to global warming. If we change our behavior it will clean up the air. Have you been to Los Angeles? Its disgusting and you can't say the air was like that before we overpopulated the area.

But even if you don't believe all of that my point is that gas is going up so that you can go green to save yourself money.

There is no good reason not to go green. If my uncle Jeff gave up driving his BMW into SF everyday then anyone can because this guy loves his fucking Beamer.

lazymoon13

eekamouse wrote:

I won't be sending any money. Temperature schmemperature.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/envronmt/climate/2007/0706wfp.htm

Global Warming = Erratic Crazy Batshit weather.. not "warmer" weather.

here's your proof dude.

http://www.oism.org/pproject/GWReview_OISM150.pdf

end of page 2 and top of 3.

jeffbr

Commy wrote:

But it kinda matters on this one if we are wrong.

It depends on what we're wrong about, I suppose.

I was listening to NPR last week and they were saying that if we all completely stopped driving our cars it would result in only a single digit decrease in CO2 emmissions. If that is the case it would be wrong to create all kinds of restrictive regulations aimed at automakers and consumers and then pat ourselves on the back and stop there. If CO2 emmissions are going to occur at levels that create the problem with or without human input, it would be wrong to create economic and regulatory hardship on industries, thereby raising the cost of goods for people who already have trouble affording them those goods. If our CO2 emmissions are the cause of this climate change, and there are clear, practical and realistic ways to control them with clear and measurable results, and we don't pursue them, that would be shortsighted.

There are lots of problems associated with being wrong about this from all sorts of different angles. That's why it is probably a good idea to understand what we can and can't fix before we try. Just doing something can be as bad as just doing nothing.