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if the election was today who would win?

RavennaSeattle1911RavennaSeattle1911 Posts: 478
edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
?? bush ??hillery? obama?
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    I think John Edwards would win today. People know his name and have a good idea about what his politics are. Hillary comes across as a bitch. Not enough people know Obama right now so he wouldn't win.

    That will all change in November 2008. Obama all the way.

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  • RavennaSeattle1911RavennaSeattle1911 Posts: 478
    http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/25/poll.bush/

    any polls on google or galup?
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    On the Dem side? Clinton by a wide margin:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Clinton or McCain... for the non-political junkies (probably 90% of the voters) it's all name recognition....
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  • 1970RR1970RR Posts: 281
    RavennaSeattle1911 wrote:
    http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/25/poll.bush/

    any polls on google or galup?
    Bush will, with 100% certainty, not be the next president. See 22nd amendment to Constitution.
  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    1970RR wrote:
    Bush will, with 100% certainty, not be the next president. See 22nd amendment to Constitution.

    Aint his brother running for office next?
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    With no time to distort the facts - no time for the barrage of misinformation..

    election today

    Obama wins,,,
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Abuskedti wrote:
    With no time to distort the facts - no time for the barrage of misinformation..

    election today

    Obama wins,,,

    or that giuliani dude
  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    If the election were held today, we'd have a year's worth of Mudslinging to look back upon. The Winner? Whoever hired Karl Rove.
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  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    does it really matter? elections are rigged and dem.s & repub.s are equally corrupt working for the same bankers/corporations.the only difference is how they lie to us.



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  • BrezBrez Posts: 570
    JamMastaE wrote:
    does it really matter? elections are rigged and dem.s & repub.s are equally corrupt working for the same bankers/corporations.the only difference is how they lie to us.



    some say I'm cynical but they are idiots,I'm a realist

    The elections are rigged you say.... Where did you gather this information?
    And before his first step... He's off again...
  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    ever hear of the BBC? biggest news organization on earth.ever hear of Greg Palast? he has investigated both elections and both were bogus.ever hear of Gore Vidal? he wrote a book on electronic voting machines and how they were/are used to steal elections.ever hear of Diebold?they are the major manufacturer of these machines and the owner of this company just happens to be a big GOP man and was quoted on record that he would give bush the election.and if you know nothing about what went on in Ohio you don't deserve to question me.
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    icarus wrote:
    didnt palast say kerry won 2004 based on exit polls? thats hardly a reliable or conclusive reason to say the election was rigged and incorrect.



    that's not all,read the rest of my post.also the discrepancy between the votes and exit polls were the biggest in u.s. history!!!
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    icarus wrote:
    didnt palast say kerry won 2004 based on exit polls? thats hardly a reliable or conclusive reason to say the election was rigged and incorrect.


    He based it on a lot more evidence than just that. Read the Best Democracy Money Can Buy.
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  • americanamerican Posts: 55
    Bush will pick who he wants to be the next president and rig the election accordingly.
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    american wrote:
    Bush will pick who he wants to be the next president and rig the election accordingly.
    so basically what your saying is jeb bush will run american. who really cares whos president, there just gonna lie to us anyways. this is country fucked until the people revolt and take back america
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  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    so basically what your saying is jeb bush will run american. who really cares whos president, there just gonna lie to us anyways. this is country fucked until the people revolt and take back america


    all but the jeb part,for now.
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    i'd win.
    d'oh!!!!!!

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  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    i'm voteing for a girl.
    d'oh!!!!!!

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  • Last ExodusLast Exodus Posts: 782
    Is ahead in all hypothethical polls.
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    icarus wrote:
    i probably will read it. but one question, if its so easy for republicans to fix elections how come it didn't happen in 2006?

    Why would they need too? All that's been accomplished is a huge fucking mess. Might as well pass the problems over to the Dems.

    I've never said Republicans themselves fix elections, just certains ones with lots of influence and power. It doesn't have to be a Republican or Democrat thing. It just so happens that the Republicans usually have more ties with big business and deregulation for their profits sake.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,887
    if the election were held today.....who would win?????

    a republican....


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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    If the election where held today a shitty ass politician would win. None of the candidates are worth a dime in my opinion.
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  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    i sure hope those arent our only choices. The Dems always choose such BORING people Kerry, Gore etc... I mean we got to add some spice to the mix. And unfortunatly Obama and Hilary arent those ingrediants
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    mammasan wrote:
    If the election where held today a shitty ass politician would win. None of the candidates are worth a dime in my opinion.


    Exactly my sentiments. A clear vote for "none of the above."
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • RavennaSeattle1911RavennaSeattle1911 Posts: 478
    rep ron paul will be the next president
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  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    why is it so hard for people to see that Democrats and Republicans are controlled by the same people!!! It's a false para-dime.what little opposition that "truly" exists is the in house fighting over who gets a bigger piece of your pie.


    Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt

    Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt

    Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt

    Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt

    Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt

    Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • trappedinmyradiotrappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    which is why the two-party system is useless!
    JamMastaE wrote:
    why is it so hard for people to see that Democrats and Republicans are controlled by the same people!!! It's a false para-dime.what little opposition that "truly" exists is the in house fighting over who gets a bigger piece of your pie.


    Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt

    Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt

    Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt

    Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt

    Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt

    Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt
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  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    which is why the two-party system is useless!



    AGREED!!!!
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    JamMastaE wrote:
    ever hear of the BBC? biggest news organization on earth.ever hear of Greg Palast? he has investigated both elections and both were bogus.ever hear of Gore Vidal? he wrote a book on electronic voting machines and how they were/are used to steal elections.ever hear of Diebold?they are the major manufacturer of these machines and the owner of this company just happens to be a big GOP man and was quoted on record that he would give bush the election.and if you know nothing about what went on in Ohio you don't deserve to question me.

    Wow........
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