China Facing Major Gender Imbalance
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*It's Raining Men.........* this thread needed a song.
and I cook and do all my own chores, I just don't Iron anything if I don't have to. They'll learn.
Rice is ridiculously easy to cook anyway and now they have rice cookers. For that matter so is stir fry. a little water a dab of oil veggies, chicken or fish if ya like wala. it's not brain science.My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.0 -
Maybe they are concerned about the potential for increased sex crimes and prostitution due to the imbalance of men/women.0
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This is what happens when you are aborting all your babies.All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell0 -
surferdude wrote:Who are you to decide the morals of a personal decision leading to an abortion decision? What are your acceptable reasons and unacceptable reasons for getting an abortion? People choose abortions all the time due to potential health risks the child may face. Fundamentally how is this any different from aborting a child based on sex?
The legality or illegality of the abortion is really immaterial to this arguement.
um, nowhere did i mention that it is immoral on the part of a woman to have an abortion.
for me, the legality of an abortion is important because there are more health risks for a woman during an illegal abortion. they're not usually as safe, but hey, this article isn't concerned about the woman's health and that was my point.if you wanna be a friend of mine
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CorporateWhore wrote:So, to say that China is so terrible because they're "not letting their women have 'reproductive rights'" is silly.
i don't know who said that.
personally what i find 'silly' is that their society doesn't value females and they have a one-child policy which ends in baby girls being killed after birth, put up for adoption outside of their country, and women being put at risk for dangerous illegal abortions.
and to top it off they apparently didn't see this coming and complain that not enough men will have wives, which is apparently the only value of a woman in their society going by this article.if you wanna be a friend of mine
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VictoryGin wrote:um, nowhere did i mention that it is immoral on the part of a woman to have an abortion.
for me, the legality of an abortion is important because there are more health risks for a woman during an illegal abortion. they're not usually as safe, but hey, this article isn't concerned about the woman's health and that was my point.
Concern for the mother's health is a greta reason to be concerned for the legality of abortion. Any concern about the reason for abortions seems out of line. Every abortion is a morally acceptable and good abortion. Right?“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley0 -
VictoryGin wrote:i don't know who said that.
personally what i find 'silly' is that their society doesn't value females and they have a one-child policy which ends in baby girls being killed after birth, put up for adoption outside of their country, and women being put at risk for dangerous illegal abortions.
and to top it off they apparently didn't see this coming and complain that not enough men will have wives, which is apparently the only value of a woman in their society going by this article.
Isn't it sad that somehow they manage to abort so many baby girls and yet their abortion rate is nearly the same as ours?All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell0 -
cincybearcat wrote:In mexico maybe.
I know of a few people that live in Mexico...they hire a maid for $40/week that washes their cars, does the laundry, prepares some meals..etc.
Also, a guy that lives here in Iowa but is from Mexico...when his wife (who doesn't work) goes back to Mexico while leaving him here...she usually prepares meals for him in the freezer. HAHAHAHA!!! That made me laugh. If I asked my wife to do that for me the only meal she'd prepare for me would be a knuckle Sammich.
'here in iowa'?! are you undercover as a hawkeye?
i think i like your wife.
if you wanna be a friend of mine
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surferdude wrote:Sorry if I seemed to be jumping all over you. I know I got my wording to be aggressive but thought it would be worse to do a total edit.
Concern for the mother's health is a greta reason to be concerned for the legality of abortion. Any concern about the reason for abortions seems out of line. Every abortion is a morally acceptable and good abortion. Right?
i think i know what you're getting at but not totally sure. i don't think one can apply/completely compare the abortion situation in north america to china. i think it's important to realize the differences in culture and acknowledge that it's a problem that their entire culture--a big one at that--devalues women so much that this is what happens. in this situation i'm not completely focused on the abortion aspect. it seems like perhaps they should revisit this one-child policy and perhaps safe contraception, and i personally wouldn't mind if they started not treating women as only valuable as wives. i think there are so many issues here and just to focus on abortion will never help.if you wanna be a friend of mine
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VictoryGin wrote:i think i know what you're getting at but not totally sure. i don't think one can apply/completely compare the abortion situation in north america to china. i think it's important to realize the differences in culture and acknowledge that it's a problem that their entire culture--a big one at that--devalues women so much that this is what happens. in this situation i'm not completely focused on the abortion aspect. it seems like perhaps they should revisit this one-child policy and perhaps safe contraception, and i personally wouldn't mind if they started not treating women as only valuable as wives. i think there are so many issues here and just to focus on abortion will never help.
Of course you don't want to compare American and Chinese abortion. Why? They're done for the same exact reason: curbing poverty.
As Mother Teresa said, "It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell0 -
CorporateWhore wrote:Of course you don't want to compare American and Chinese abortion. Why? They're done for the same exact reason: curbing poverty.
As Mother Teresa said, "It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."
did you breakup with that girlfriend or something? i want to say you had a girlfriend at some point, before the 'incident', because i remember thinking, 'man, she must really hate herself'.if you wanna be a friend of mine
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VictoryGin wrote:'here in iowa'?! are you undercover as a hawkeye?
i think i like your wife.
Yep, I've moved recently...for the time being.
And yes, you'd like her a lot.hippiemom = goodness0 -
VictoryGin wrote:i think i know what you're getting at but not totally sure. i don't think one can apply/completely compare the abortion situation in north america to china. i think it's important to realize the differences in culture and acknowledge that it's a problem that their entire culture--a big one at that--devalues women so much that this is what happens. in this situation i'm not completely focused on the abortion aspect. it seems like perhaps they should revisit this one-child policy and perhaps safe contraception, and i personally wouldn't mind if they started not treating women as only valuable as wives. i think there are so many issues here and just to focus on abortion will never help.
One, it's a farce for Americans/Canadians/European to point to other countries and passing any any type of judgement over the reasons leading to an abortion decision. This is an ammoral choice in America and should be considered the same in other countries.
Second is that the whoe abortion thing is just a sympton of the actual problem. And the problemn is not how women are recognized or treated in China but of Human Rights.
Every time you or I buy goods from China we are telling the world that we don't care about Human Rights. That money in my pockets is more important than Human Rights. My greed overrules my heart and push come to shove I just don't care about you.
Canada has a leader that stood up to China and he got lambasted at home. That he'd dare to put Human Rights before trade. It was a very sad day for Canada.“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley0 -
1970RR wrote:Maybe they are concerned about the potential for increased sex crimes and prostitution due to the imbalance of men/women.
This is exactly what I read their concern to be in another article concerning this imbalance."Worse than traitors in arms are the men who pretend loyalty to the flag, feast and fatten on the misfortunes of the nation while patriotic blood is crimsoning the plains." -- Abraham Lincoln0 -
Well I guess one way to look at it will be...less people in China?0
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CorporateWhore wrote:Isn't it sad that somehow they manage to abort so many baby girls and yet their abortion rate is nearly the same as ours?"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
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VictoryGin wrote:did you breakup with that girlfriend or something? i want to say you had a girlfriend at some point, before the 'incident', because i remember thinking, 'man, she must really hate herself'.
You turn this into a personal thing, but all I was saying is that China's forced abortion rate is nearly the same as our voluntary abortion rate. Aren't you proud of the contribution you make toward that abortion rate? Does it give you the warm fuzzies?
Whether the government makes you have an abortion or not, does it matter? Will the aborted babies ever know whether their mothers were forced to abort them or their mothers voluntary gave them up?
If you ask me, I would rather be one of the babies whose mother was forced to abort them. Essentially though, doesn't our society force women to abort their children by telling them that it is a moral act? When society says that fetuses aren't human beings, should we blame the mother or should we blame ourselves?
Even though abortion is legal in America, that doesn't mean we need to have an abortion rate that rivals China, that great oppressor of human rights.All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell0
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