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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    angelica wrote:
    They do speak with a similar sound and Spirit--the Spirit of God within each one of us. The difference is the individuals who experience the speaking--we're all so wonderfully and vastly diverse.

    You are trying to fit me into your view, and really I can't fit because I'm perfectly designed for my own. I realize that underlying there are Universal Truths. And yet when we are seeing separation and "wrong" we are seeing our own conflict. We can know this because Universal Truth because it is everywhere and it's whole undivided Love. Anything that is not wholeness and love is our own illusions that we are seeing. I understand you would see this in terms of Christ, and of sin, because of your own unique view.
    well, i'm definitely not trying to fit you into my beliefs. i know that my beliefs are not shared by many. but the idea of you not being able to fit in it because you are perfectly designed for your own is only a matter of opinion that can't really be debated. apart from everything else, i believe that the Spirit of God is definitely inside of us all (something that I've mentioned on here before) but it isn't unveiled until we come to know Christ. the whole teachings about Universal Truths are the same things that I've mentioned before here. it's exactly what Christ offers to all of us... that "universal truth"
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    gue_barium wrote:
    God is one of those interchangeable, multi-purpose words. It isn't a matter of believing if there is such a thing as god, it is a matter using the word "god" to your best advantage. Kind of like, "fuck."

    i love the word fuck. its so very multipurpose.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    angelica wrote:
    They do speak with a similar sound and Spirit--the Spirit of God within each one of us. The difference is the individuals who experience the speaking--we're all so wonderfully and vastly diverse.
    Creatively, sure, we can be. The modems of taste, and culture can be epochs of new thought, stimulation, viewpoints.
    You are trying to fit me into your view, and really I can't fit because I'm perfectly designed for my own.
    Nobody is perfect. Not even for themselves. There is always somebody better in some way: this is a big part of the process of bettering oneself.
    I realize that underlying there are Universal Truths. And yet when we are seeing separation and "wrong" we are seeing our own conflict. We can know this because Universal Truth because it is everywhere and it's whole undivided Love. Anything that is not wholeness and love is our own illusions that we are seeing. I understand you would see this in terms of Christ, and of sin, because of your own unique view.

    The universal truth is that humans were made of this earth, just as the bird, just as the fish, just as the dog.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    well, i'm definitely not trying to fit you into my beliefs. i know that my beliefs are not shared by many. but the idea of you not being able to fit in it because you are perfectly designed for your own is only a matter of opinion that can't really be debated. apart from everything else, i believe that the Spirit of God is definitely inside of us all (something that I've mentioned on here before) but it isn't unveiled until we come to know Christ. the whole teachings about Universal Truths are the same things that I've mentioned before here. it's exactly what Christ offers to all of us... that "universal truth"
    That's one way of looking at it. ;) I have another, although I don't expect you to understand my way. It doesn't fit within your view as a valid way, and I accept that. Peace. :)
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    catefrances wrote:
    i love the word fuck. its so very multipurpose.

    You should read post 101.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    gue_barium wrote:
    You should read post 101.

    jesus testicles is the name of my new band. :D
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    catefrances wrote:
    jesus testicles is the name of my new band. :D

    Hey!


    Nice choice. :)
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    gue_barium wrote:
    Hey!


    Nice choice. :)

    wanna be my drummer? :D
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    catefrances wrote:
    wanna be my drummer? :D

    I can play rythm guitar, and sing decently after a few beers... okay on drums.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    gue_barium wrote:
    I can play rythm guitar, and sing decently after a few beers... okay on drums.

    rhythm guitar? okay then, youre in. :D
    know any gospel songs. ;):D:p
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    catefrances wrote:
    rhythm guitar? okay then, youre in. :D
    know any gospel songs. ;):D:p

    Rowing, rowing, down the old river...
    this river, my mamee, she told me to take...
    rowing, rowing to places unknown,
    the good lord in His heart I will keep...
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    gue_barium wrote:
    Rowing, rowing, down the old river...
    this river, my mamee, she told me to take...
    rowing, rowing to places unknown,
    the good lord in His heart I will keep...

    i think that if we play around with these arrangements, we could make them work. :)
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    catefrances wrote:
    i think that if we play around with these arrangements, we could make them work. :)

    I could finish that. Sometime.
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  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    gue_barium wrote:
    Creatively, sure, we can be. The modems of taste, and culture can be epochs of new thought, stimulation, viewpoints.
    Nobody is perfect. Not even for themselves. There is always somebody better in some way: this is a big part of the process of bettering oneself.

    The universal truth is that humans were made of this earth, just as the bird, just as the fish, just as the dog.

    Not necessarily, we have only doubts and theories to account for the origin of life on earth. And one of these theories holds an extraterrestrial origin of life. The only universal truths are mathematical. The rest is human interpretation limited by the current state of knowledge held by humanity and highly subject to change.

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