Wyoming Results Coming in...

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  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    KDH12 wrote:
    Overall Obama is getting record turn out of voters in primaries in republican and swing states

    in Wyoming there were around 7500 votes cast today compared about 675 in 2004 i would say that is significant...

    the reason why Dems have done bad in the past in certain states or regions is because they can not turn out the vote.... this year, with Obama running people are voting in record numbers....

    is it cuz of him? we will see

    I was gonna a sk a question along those lines. How many people voted for Bush/Cheney in 00 and 04, and how many voted Obama today? Even if Obama had more votes in todays caucus than Bush /Cheney did in 2000 and 2004, that alone still wouldn't guarantee a November victory, but it would eman something. esp. considering Wyoming is Cheney's home state. All that said, what do they have, 3 electoral votes?


    ETA: I just looked it up. Bush/Cheney received @148,000 votes in 2000, and @167,000 in 2004. Gore and Kerry received @ 60,000 and 71,000 respectively. How many did Obama receive today? I have no idea how to translate caucus numbers into votes....
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    ETA: I just looked it up. Bush/Cheney received @148,000 votes in 2000, and @167,000 in 2004. Gore and Kerry received @ 60,000 and 71,000 respectively. How many did Obama receive today? I have no idea how to translate caucus numbers into votes....

    That's the problem with some of this projecting. It is really tricky to translate a caucus result (where arguably the most active partisans turn out) to a general election where many can't motivate themselves to get their asses off the couch and go vote.

    I still think if Obama gets the nod, he wins the presidency and will take swing states. But not because he is reaching across the isle, and motivating Republicans to vote for him, but rather because Republicans will just stay home. If Hillary is the nominee, those same Republicans will come out to vote against her and give McCain the win.
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  • Hollyweird
    Hollyweird Posts: 197
    MasterFramer wrote:
    *Update - Obama Projected Winner, 59% vs 40%
    How many delegates? 2 Brokeback Cowboys?
  • Hollyweird
    Hollyweird Posts: 197
    MasterFramer wrote:
    *Update - Obama Projected Winner, 59% vs 40%
    How many delegates? 2 Brokeback Cowboys?
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    12 delegates. Not sure if it's an 8-4 or 7-5 split
  • Hollyweird
    Hollyweird Posts: 197
    jeffbr wrote:
    I don't understand. This was a Democrat caucus result, so the voters were Democrats. How does that translate to Obama winning a general election in Wyoming? He may very well do so, but I don't see how today's results say anything about that.
    If Obama wins the nomination he will win very few of the States that he carried in these Red states giving him delegates mostly through caucas and not winner takes all election. Just look at a map. The great Democratic coalition of um....Wyoming, Mississippi, Texas, Alabama, Iowa, South Carolina, etc etc. I mean cmon. Obama is running scared of having to face voters in Florida, a state the Democrats have to win in November.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Hollyweird wrote:
    If Obama wins the nomination he will win very few of the States that he carried in these Red states giving him delegates mostly through caucas and not winner takes all election. Just look at a map. The great Democratic coalition of um....Wyoming, Mississippi, Texas, Alabama, Iowa, South Carolina, etc etc. I mean cmon. Obama is running scared of having to face voters in Florida, a state the Democrats have to win in November.

    Yeah, forget Missouri, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Nevada. Those aren't swing states at all that a Democrat wouldn't need to win.
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  • Given to...
    Given to... Wyoming Posts: 5,007
    KDH12 wrote:
    Anyone else find it strange that a black man wins in Wyoming?

    This shows the power of Obama to possibly win Republican states or swing states......

    it has changed my opinion of Wyoming to say the least :)

    I live in Wyoming, and have for all of my 38 years. Wyoming is very hard to read...

    Ever heard of Barbara Cubin? 8 times she has been elected to represent us, as our sole Representative. She has the worse voting/attendance record, possibly of all time. Last year her record was even worse that a deceased Rep from another state! I'm not making this up. If I had a few more minutes I would dig up a link, but forgive and believe me. So we are "ok" with some women, but I have never seen people in my area so bitter when it comes to Hillary. They spit her name out like she was the devil incarnate. Is Wyoming tollerant of Barack because of his color...? I would say that Wyomingites are much more tollerant in the polls than they are when they are on stools at the bar, at which times, I would not want to be any minority, whether it be black, hispanic, gay, oil field trash, BYU co-ed,....the list goes on. Please understand that I am only including these as examples, not that I am using them to describe my beliefs in any way.

    Peace
    "...would you like some forks?" EV 12-02-06
  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    Hollyweird wrote:
    How many delegates? 2 Brokeback Cowboys?

    Look out!... homophobe!
    10.31.93 / 10.1.94 / 6.24.95 / 11.4.95 / 10.19-20.96 / 7.16.98 / 7.21.98 / 10.31.00 /8.4.01 Nader Rally/ 10.21.01 / 12.8-9.02 / 6.01.03 / 9.1.05 / 7.15-16,18.06 / 7.20.06 / 7.22-23.06 / Lolla 07
  • Hollyweird
    Hollyweird Posts: 197
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Look out!... homophobe!
    Hell no! I think your just fine the way you are...even in chaps!
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    cincybearcat wrote:
    What were you basing your opinions of Wyoming on before?


    The general consensus on this board seems to be 'bc that's what everyone else thinks'
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • KDH12
    KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    The general consensus on this board seems to be 'bc that's what everyone else thinks'


    ummm no actually I am able to come up with my own opinions and thoughts thanks
    **CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **
  • KDH12
    KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    jaamfaan wrote:
    I live in Wyoming, and have for all of my 38 years. Wyoming is very hard to read...

    Ever heard of Barbara Cubin? 8 times she has been elected to represent us, as our sole Representative. She has the worse voting/attendance record, possibly of all time. Last year her record was even worse that a deceased Rep from another state! I'm not making this up. If I had a few more minutes I would dig up a link, but forgive and believe me. So we are "ok" with some women, but I have never seen people in my area so bitter when it comes to Hillary. They spit her name out like she was the devil incarnate. Is Wyoming tollerant of Barack because of his color...? I would say that Wyomingites are much more tollerant in the polls than they are when they are on stools at the bar, at which times, I would not want to be any minority, whether it be black, hispanic, gay, oil field trash, BYU co-ed,....the list goes on. Please understand that I am only including these as examples, not that I am using them to describe my beliefs in any way.

    Peace


    Thanks for the info....

    I am not or was not trying to hate on Wyoming however I just didn't see it as a place where a black man could be successful.... however it seems that their views of Hillary are similar to a lot of others in the country from big or small communities.

    I have always said that with friends people from all walks of life would never admit that they would vote for a black man but once they step into the voting booth they would vote for a black man over a woman....

    I am just skeptical of rural communities and their views of minorities I am a white man married to a black woman and we are much more cautious in rural communities than when we are in Chicago....
    **CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **
  • Given to...
    Given to... Wyoming Posts: 5,007
    Absolutely, I agreee with what you say and how it was said. No offence taken here.
    Wyomingites are very proud this weekend, and its not because Obama won the caucus. We get all puffed up any time we are even mentioned as one of the lower 48!
    It will remain very difficult in the general election to list Wyoming as anything but Republican, regardless of who is running. I was actually surprised by the numbers that did turn out for Saturdays caucus, it leaves some hope, albeit very small.
    The entire state has right around 500,000 people, and yes the entire state should be considered rural. Even our two largest cities only have a single community college, and our sole University is in a city of around 10,000. Mathew Shepard was the gay student who was beaten and left tied to a fence in Laramie.
    Another ironic note, Cheney "resides" in Wilson, a hamlet outside of Jackson Hole. Jackson Hole has some of the highest real estate values in the US, and is almost completely Democrat.

    I think Dick is the anti-christ.

    Go DEMS!!!
    "...would you like some forks?" EV 12-02-06
  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    How much does an acre of land go for in Jackson Hole?
    10.31.93 / 10.1.94 / 6.24.95 / 11.4.95 / 10.19-20.96 / 7.16.98 / 7.21.98 / 10.31.00 /8.4.01 Nader Rally/ 10.21.01 / 12.8-9.02 / 6.01.03 / 9.1.05 / 7.15-16,18.06 / 7.20.06 / 7.22-23.06 / Lolla 07
  • Given to...
    Given to... Wyoming Posts: 5,007
    Depends on what you want.

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