Going to war with Iran.

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  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    macgyver06 wrote:
    ...which no one can still answer me who the fuck the insurgency is...

    and why, we thought these insurgents were no match for a real military and, yet, here we are 4 years later still over there fighting those so-called backwards, rock throwing, third world, desert camel jockeys - and dying. While high price mercenaries draw the girlie duty of protecting buildings and visitors. Kind of reminds you of high price athletes, worthless after the first injury and always blaming others.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    NCfan wrote:
    What are you talking about??? We have been using all kinds of dipolomacy to deal with the Iranians. Nobody wants a war, okay? Not even Bush and the neo-cons.

    Yea, if you say so mate.

    Of course bush and his dumb croonies want war or they wouldn't keep starting them.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    Cosmo wrote:
    The bottom line...
    The message the Bush Administration has sent out...
    "If you don't have Nuclear Weapons... we will attack you. So, the best way for us to negotiate with you is for you to acquire Nuclear Weapons."
    ...
    Ummmm... is it just me... or does that make no sense at all?


    Does anything the bush administration do make sense?
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    macgyver06 wrote:
    whats your motivation psycho path....i never said our navy would lose...but it would be war..unlike iraq was entering. YOU FOOL. IRAN IS MORE POWERFUL THAN THE INSURGENCY IN IRAQ...which no one can still answer me who the fuck the insurgency is...

    You said the Iranians had a navy that would rival ours. Only on this message board would I be the "psycho path" for calling you out on that. I'm sorry if that is not what you meant, but it is what you said.
  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    puremagic wrote:
    and why, we thought these insurgents were no match for a real military and, yet, here we are 4 years later still over there fighting those so-called backwards, rock throwing, third world, desert camel jockeys - and dying. While high price mercenaries draw the girlie duty of protecting buildings and visitors. Kind of reminds you of high price athletes, worthless after the first injury and always blaming others.

    The insurgents are no match for a real military. We just aren't allowed to use the weapons we have because the insurgents hide among the civillians and America is a civilized country that tries to limit civilian casualties.

    If this were 1945, half of Iraq would be leveled on on fire but nobody would be resisting us either.
  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    Cosmo wrote:
    The bottom line...
    The message the Bush Administration has sent out...
    "If you don't have Nuclear Weapons... we will attack you. So, the best way for us to negotiate with you is for you to acquire Nuclear Weapons."
    ...
    Ummmm... is it just me... or does that make no sense at all?

    How do you get that message??? Seems to me Bush has been saying "don't try to get nukes, becuase if you do we will attack you. Let's try to work out an alternate solution where you can have nuclear technology - even your own reactor but the spent fuel rods must be sent to Russia for disposal and inspectors are allowed to monitor your nuclear programs."

    And Iran's response has been "Fuck you, we'll do what we want becuase we know after Iraq the West has no stomach to stop us."
  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    spiral out wrote:
    Yea, if you say so mate.

    Of course bush and his dumb croonies want war or they wouldn't keep starting them.

    Sure, we just love war... that's why we have started all of 2 in the last 15 years.
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    NCfan wrote:
    Sure, we just love war... that's why we have started all of 2 in the last 15 years.

    America only goes to war to make money. You've started plenty over a longer period of time.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    NCfan wrote:
    The insurgents are no match for a real military. We just aren't allowed to use the weapons we have because the insurgents hide among the civillians and America is a civilized country that tries to limit civilian casualties.

    If this were 1945, half of Iraq would be leveled on on fire but nobody would be resisting us either.

    America is very civallised, keep telling yourself that.

    Can you even tell what the war is for?
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    NCfan wrote:
    How do you get that message??? Seems to me Bush has been saying "don't try to get nukes, becuase if you do we will attack you. Let's try to work out an alternate solution where you can have nuclear technology - even your own reactor but the spent fuel rods must be sent to Russia for disposal and inspectors are allowed to monitor your nuclear programs."

    And Iran's response has been "Fuck you, we'll do what we want becuase we know after Iraq the West has no stomach to stop us."
    ...
    No... It's been all bullshit Lip Service.
    Example:
    It is UNACCEPTABLE for Iran to continue its desire to enrich uranium..
    Iran enriches uranium... we do nothing. Isn't that called 'acceptable'?
    It is UNACCEPTABLE for North Korea to test fire their missiles...
    North Korea test fires their missiles... we do nothing. Isn't that called 'acceptable'?
    ...
    The message Bush has sent out is... America will attack you is you do not have Nuclear Weapons... get Nuclear Weapons so America will not attack you.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Cosmo wrote:
    The bottom line...
    The message the Bush Administration has sent out...
    "If you don't have Nuclear Weapons... we will attack you. So, the best way for us to negotiate with you is for you to acquire Nuclear Weapons."
    ...
    Ummmm... is it just me... or does that make no sense at all?

    It makes sense if you want to prevent a nuclear war instead of starting one.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    spiral out wrote:
    America is very civallised, keep telling yourself that.

    Can you even tell what the war is for?

    The Iraqis' hearts and minds silly.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Iraq has left our military severely weakened. Iraq has also shown that the American public is turning into a bunch pussies. That is a bad combination in convincing Iran to stop its nuclear weapon program.
  • The Iraq war...biggest American political catastrophe in 100 years.

    The first cluster fuck isn't even over yet...and now they want to go again?

    give me a fucking break...

    what a laugh...
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  • lucylespian
    lucylespian Posts: 2,403
    Cosmo wrote:
    The bottom line...
    The message the Bush Administration has sent out...
    "If you don't have Nuclear Weapons... we will attack you. So, the best way for us to negotiate with you is for you to acquire Nuclear Weapons."
    ...
    Ummmm... is it just me... or does that make no sense at all?

    Nah, it's just you cosmo.............



    unless you read some of the posts I made to this effect a few weeks ago, in which case, it's me too !!!!
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    The Iraq war...biggest American political catastrophe in 100 years.

    The first cluster fuck isn't even over yet...and now they want to go again?

    give me a fucking break...

    what a laugh...

    Hopefully it is just air strikes. But we are getting ahead of ourselves at this point. Just think though if we had the diplomatic support of Russia, France, and China. That alliance right there could remove a lot of the current turmoil. Just diplomatic support could help, not even military support (we don't need their military support).
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Iraq has left our military severely weakened. Iraq has also shown that the American public is turning into a bunch pussies. That is a bad combination in convincing Iran to stop its nuclear weapon program.
    ...
    How is the American Public a 'Bunch Of Pussies'? For not supporting a War of Choice? And you're NOT a pussy if you support a bad decision followed with one huge mistake after another that strands your military in a Religious Based Civil War? So what, you're an Idiot or a Pussy... right?
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  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    spiral out wrote:
    America only goes to war to make money. You've started plenty over a longer period of time.
    spiral out wrote:
    America is very civallised, keep telling yourself that.

    Can you even tell what the war is for?

    Hey londoners, make sure you include your country and you as its citzens in your list of money grubbing war-mongers, there's plenty of "blame" left over for you ;)

    England only goes to war along with us for what??

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    I support Donald Trump's view of the war.

    If America had taken 9/11 and not retaliated. America would have earned greater popularity on the world stage. The move to "get 'em" has back-fired, no one has been got and more hatred and terrorism is breeding in the middle-east. The move to Iraq severly undermined any efforts to increase America's popularity.
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  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    How is the American Public a 'Bunch Of Pussies'? For not supporting a War of Choice? And you're NOT a pussy if you support a bad decision followed with one huge mistake after another that strands your military in a Religious Based Civil War? So what, you're an Idiot or a Pussy... right?

    You're half right, because one half of the American public IS a bunch of pussies. Guess which one. :p
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