why should i vote for obama??

El_Kabong
El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
edited June 2008 in A Moving Train
has he even defined any of his stances (other than attack iran if they make a nuke)?

it seems like ppl are behind him b/c he's the popular cadidate...but why? they say he's anti-war but he's for an attack against iran and at one point said we needed to stay in iraq until the insurgency was defeated (and that we should keep some militatry there in iraq even after that and that leaving iraq would lead america away from our global responsabilities)....they say he's a progressive liberal but he wouldn't give any support to any of the real progressive liberals that ran for senate, instead he put his support behind hawks like joe leiberman, he was more than happy to campaign for those ppl and speak for them...they say he's for universal health care but he won't say how other than we need to make sure the for profit companies are taken care of....he's pro nafta and cafta, pro globalization, he voted to reauthorize the patriot act, voted against capping credit card interest rates at 30%....

so what is it about him that is so great? maybe i'm just not seeing it
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Barack sounds like a black Bush to me...with a little more gloss.

    I got bad vibes form him as soon as I heard him open his mouth and speak...

    The guy is so full of shit it aint funny...
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  • NOCODE#1
    NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    El_Kabong wrote:
    has he even defined any of his stances (other than attack iran if they make a nuke)?

    it seems like ppl are behind him b/c he's the popular cadidate...but why? they say he's anti-war but he's for an attack against iran and at one point said we needed to stay in iraq until the insurgency was defeated (and that we should keep some militatry there in iraq even after that and that leaving iraq would lead america away from our global responsabilities)....they say he's a progressive liberal but he wouldn't give any support to any of the real progressive liberals that ran for senate, instead he put his support behind hawks like joe leiberman, he was more than happy to campaign for those ppl and speak for them...they say he's for universal health care but he won't say how other than we need to make sure the for profit companies are taken care of....he's pro nafta and cafta, pro globalization, he voted to reauthorize the patriot act, voted against capping credit card interest rates at 30%....

    so what is it about him that is so great? maybe i'm just not seeing it

    looking back at your posts and your anti obama stance, i wouldnt be surprised if you were on the david duke payroll. racism brings out the worst in people.
    Let's not be negative now. Thumper has spoken
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    NOCODE#1 wrote:
    looking back at your posts and your anti obama stance, i wouldnt be surprised if you were on the david duke payroll. racism brings out the worst in people.

    Oh, my fucking god...so if you don't like Obama, you're a racist? Get a clue...
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    NOCODE#1 wrote:
    looking back at your posts and your anti obama stance, i wouldnt be surprised if you were on the david duke payroll. racism brings out the worst in people.

    Isn't it possible to not like someone and their views/positions and those feelings having nothing to do with race?
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    NOCODE#1 wrote:
    looking back at your posts and your anti obama stance, i wouldnt be surprised if you were on the david duke payroll. racism brings out the worst in people.
    This is easily the most ridiculous post I've seen here in ages. And given some of what's posted, that's quite a statement.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    El_Kabong wrote:
    has he even defined any of his stances (other than attack iran if they make a nuke)?

    it seems like ppl are behind him b/c he's the popular cadidate...but why? they say he's anti-war but he's for an attack against iran and at one point said we needed to stay in iraq until the insurgency was defeated (and that we should keep some militatry there in iraq even after that and that leaving iraq would lead america away from our global responsabilities)....they say he's a progressive liberal but he wouldn't give any support to any of the real progressive liberals that ran for senate, instead he put his support behind hawks like joe leiberman, he was more than happy to campaign for those ppl and speak for them...they say he's for universal health care but he won't say how other than we need to make sure the for profit companies are taken care of....he's pro nafta and cafta, pro globalization, he voted to reauthorize the patriot act, voted against capping credit card interest rates at 30%....

    so what is it about him that is so great? maybe i'm just not seeing it

    No, you're right. He's just more of the same.
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    NOCODE#1 wrote:
    looking back at your posts and your anti obama stance, i wouldnt be surprised if you were on the david duke payroll. racism brings out the worst in people.


    can you plz point me to some of these racist posts of mine???

    this explains why *i* don't feel comfortable voting for him...yet there are many who fully support him, maybe i'm missing something and thought someone could point something out

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laWWgYYW8dY
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    NOCODE#1 wrote:
    looking back at your posts and your anti obama stance, i wouldnt be surprised if you were on the david duke payroll. racism brings out the worst in people.

    Hey lookie it's Johnnie fucking Cochran...lol...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,924
    because his name is not Bush or Clinton
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    NOCODE#1 wrote:
    looking back at your posts and your anti obama stance, i wouldnt be surprised if you were on the david duke payroll. racism brings out the worst in people.

    Wow. I may disagree with Kabong on an issue or two ;), but I have never seen anything resembling racism posted by him. Where did this come from?
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    dont vote for him. Plain and simple.

    If you are antiwar-you have one choice, and only one.

    Vote for a candidate that will pull the troops out immediately and end the war, and not get us into another war in north korea or iran.

    Obama fails to live up to that ideal and so do most of the other candidates save Kucinich and Gravel.

    Voting for Hilary or Obama aint gonna bring the troops home.

    As I said before, Bush is a killer, liar, and a horrible person. But he wasnt dumb enough to invade Iran and North Korea. Obama admitted twice, that this is a just response to these two countries.

    Who in their right mind, running for prez, would admit they would bomb two countries after this war, this war that is arguably the most disasterous war in u.s. history.

    You really think the american people will not only vote for a female or a black male, but also will overlook the fact both are for this war, and both want to entangle us in more wars?

    Dont vote for a canddiate unless they are antiwar
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    hippiemom wrote:
    This is easily the most ridiculous post I've seen here in ages. And given some of what's posted, that's quite a statement.

    Damnit, I need to try harder.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    jeffbr wrote:
    Wow. I may disagree with Kabong on an issue or two ;), but I have never seen anything resembling racism posted by him. Where did this come from?

    I heard he has illegal immigrants clean his yard and then he "stores" them in a basement bunker like a can of sardines.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Cheguevara6 wrote:

    Dont vote for a canddiate unless they are antiwar

    You can only do that when your enemies are anti-war as well.
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    because hes got a beard
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    War is Good.

    Dropping bombs is chickenshit.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    I heard he has illegal immigrants clean his yard and then he "stores" them in a basement bunker like a can of sardines.

    No, no, no.

    Shhh.

    Kabong is an illegal immigrant. And a mulatto.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    hippiemom wrote:
    This is easily the most ridiculous post I've seen here in ages. And given some of what's posted, that's quite a statement.


    There are plenty of ridiculous post just like this one all the time. It's why having a real discussion about racism and race relations in America is next to impossible. It's our own doing to...the product of an overly sensitive, PC nation.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    El_Kabong wrote:
    has he even defined any of his stances (other than attack iran if they make a nuke)?

    it seems like ppl are behind him b/c he's the popular cadidate...but why? they say he's anti-war but he's for an attack against iran and at one point said we needed to stay in iraq until the insurgency was defeated (and that we should keep some militatry there in iraq even after that and that leaving iraq would lead america away from our global responsabilities)....they say he's a progressive liberal but he wouldn't give any support to any of the real progressive liberals that ran for senate, instead he put his support behind hawks like joe leiberman, he was more than happy to campaign for those ppl and speak for them...they say he's for universal health care but he won't say how other than we need to make sure the for profit companies are taken care of....he's pro nafta and cafta, pro globalization, he voted to reauthorize the patriot act, voted against capping credit card interest rates at 30%....

    so what is it about him that is so great? maybe i'm just not seeing it


    fucking racist :rolleyes:


    i always new that El Kabong progressive liberal bullshit was a front ;)
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    my2hands wrote:
    fucking racist :rolleyes:


    i always new that El Kabong progressive liberal bullshit was a front ;)
    You gotta admit, he kept us all going for a LONG time before the "real" racist Kabong revealed himself ;)
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