*Zeitgeist -- the movie* For the love of GOD, WATCH THIS PLEASE!

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Excellent Documentary. It's all there in plain English for all to see.

    I especially like the Aaron Russo bit at approx 1hr 45mins.

    Everyone should watch it twice.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    just about 10 minutes in...

    i love the george carlin bit, one of his best IMO :D
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,252
    Pearl Jammers,

    My first post here.

    I found out about this movie on the website to the band Michael Franti and Spearhead. http://www.Spearheadvibrations or http://www.StayHuman.org. I watched this movie several times and it confrimed books I've read on WWII and Vietnam. I researhed info given in this movie and i must say they checked out as far as I could explore.

    It also confirmed conversation I had with a Special Forces Vietnam Veteran officer who woke me up to the fact that Pearl Harbour's attack was Known to our government.

    It's odd but he told me "Our History Repeats Itself" and he's right we continue with what has worked in the past with 9/II. Friends take a look at this movie and please give your opinion on what you see @ 9/II MYSTERIES.

    Peace and Love to ALL, most of all STAY HUMAN
    Earle
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    The false flag events seem to keep happening (again and again)

    It's not just imagination.

    Do the math!


    for those who don't know what false flag is:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    i am not a major conspiracy theorist... but i also acknowledge that they exist...

    entertaining watch, i think people should watch it.

    but i do have a few questions about it... most notably the gentleman with the rockefeller family member... he made some really strong statements, i would love to see how they can be backed up or verified... how do i even know the guy is legit?
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Also,
    for more information on verified (declassified) false flag, government sponsored terror events, check out the first 20 or so minutes of Alex Jones' Terrorstorm Delux ...

    about 30 minutes in, it goes flat for a while, but then picks up again around the 1:10 mark (hour & ten) ...

    The bits on teh 7-7-05 London Bombings past the hour mark are EXTREMELY enlightening.
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  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    Woaw

    40 Mins In!!!
    Bump This !!!

    Everyone Watch
  • EyesForTheSkies
    EyesForTheSkies Posts: 26
    so does this mean you're against someone saying "Hitler was evil?", because that's something "bad" being said about someone...


    Sometimes the truth isn't all nice and sweet... Sometimes the truth is bad... But noone wants bad or scary, and thus noone wants the truth.. .

    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    you know man...

    I've done some thinking and I'm not buying the whole US is evil thing. I think it's misguided to think that way.

    Not only that. I feel like a shit for participating in it.

    I don't think it's accurate or responsible to promote information that says America or anyone for that matter is evil or bad. It's wrong. It needs to stop, and right now.

    I no longer promote, condone or respect anyone saying anything bad about anyone else. That in itself is anti humanity and defies logic as a positive means towards accomplishing anything.
    he's not a leader, he's a texas leaguer...


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  • EyesForTheSkies
    EyesForTheSkies Posts: 26
    if you feel "manipulated" by it, then how about this?... (and this is a pretty crazy notion) RESEARCH IT'S CLAIMS!.. RESEARCH it using unbiased, scholarly sources, not corporate run media outlets like Fox news or the Washington Post... take some time and LOOK UP the things you find questionable...

    or just accept what sounds nice to you and take as lies everything that doesn't mesh with that rosey view of things...



    ArmsinaV wrote:
    If we are to be so questioning of authority and those who want to "control", why should I believe in any of what's in this movie? Perhaps its makers are trying to manipulate me. By what authority are they trying to tell me to question all authority, particularly that of religion?

    This movie, from what I've seen so far, is blatantly biased and schewed. The bit on Horus neglects vast amounts of information about Egyptian history/mythology. From what I can tell, Horus is a term used to describe several deities, not just one.
    he's not a leader, he's a texas leaguer...


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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    EyesForTheSkies wrote:
    if you feel "manipulated" by it, then how about this?... (and this is a pretty crazy notion) RESEARCH IT'S CLAIMS!.. RESEARCH it using unbiased, scholarly sources, not corporate run media outlets like Fox news or the Washington Post... take some time and LOOK UP the things you find questionable...

    or just accept what sounds nice to you and take as lies everything that doesn't mesh with that rosey view of things...

    show me an unbiased source about religion. If you think that this movie is unbiased and is exactly right, I'd say you're just as guilty for not looking things up as the person who feels manipulated by it... or you can just accept what sounds nice to you and take as lies everything that doesn't mesh with your not so rosey view of things ;)

    The responses to this movie are kind of interesting. The people who are religious, disagree with the movie (myself included) and the people who aren't religious or have turned away from religion herald it as if it were gospel truth. So don't we all just look for what re-inforces our view, esp on a subject such as religion?
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  • Smellyman2
    Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    Yes it is biased, but it uses actual histoical facts and reason for its conclusions.

    Religion will always be devoid of fact and reason to prove its existence.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Smellyman wrote:

    Religion will always be devoid of fact and reason to prove its existence.


    and thats the fact, jack :)
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    so everyone is really just worshipping the sun
  • EyesForTheSkies
    EyesForTheSkies Posts: 26
    chopitdown wrote:
    show me an unbiased source about religion. If you think that this movie is unbiased and is exactly right, I'd say you're just as guilty for not looking things up as the person who feels manipulated by it... or you can just accept what sounds nice to you and take as lies everything that doesn't mesh with your not so rosey view of things ;)

    The responses to this movie are kind of interesting. The people who are religious, disagree with the movie (myself included) and the people who aren't religious or have turned away from religion herald it as if it were gospel truth. So don't we all just look for what re-inforces our view, esp on a subject such as religion?



    First, the part of the film discussing religeon isn't even on the same plane of importance as the rest of it, concerning the world bank and all of it's ramifications---that is a pressing matter RIGHT NOW, today, that is affecting everyones lives on the face of the planet... so please don't simply dismiss the other 80 or so minutes based on the fact that you were turned off by the first portion of it...

    Second... You see, the thing about research is, you need to do it for yourself... everyone on the internet is always saying 'show me this show me that' to prove what someone else is saying, and they will sit back and wait for that peron to produce a source---but i'm not going to do your homework for you... i could site you any number of sources, and you would just write them off as biased or inadequate or whatever else... i've done my research, i don't need to convince myself of anything... if you have doubts in your mind, if you feel compelled to seek out the truth, than you will take the time to do the research and come to your own conclusions...

    and that, ultimately is what the film is about... it even says on the statement or sources or one of those pages that is linked at the bottom of the page NOT TO TAKE WHAT THEY SAY AS TRUTH EITHER---- to look it up (and that means beyond what google will tell you) and find out for yourself...

    honestly, i don't care if you arrive at a different conclusion that i do... what i care about is that you at least think about it and read about it and actively pursue information so that you can come to your own conclusions...
    he's not a leader, he's a texas leaguer...


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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I BrisK I wrote:
    so everyone is really just worshipping the sun


    Only the most tanned...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • mxaaron
    mxaaron Posts: 92
    Smellyman wrote:
    Yes it is biased, but it uses actual histoical facts and reason for its conclusions.

    Religion will always be devoid of fact and reason to prove its existence.

    Smellydude,
    I'm confused as to what you mean here:

    Religion's existence can be proven; there are at least 100 churches in my rural Kentucky county alone. They are pretty religious, most of them. So I say the existence of religion is easy to prove.

    Perhaps you mean something else; do you mean to say the specific beliefs of religion are "devoid of fact and reason to prove its existence", such as the ressurection? If so, are you saying evidence points to the contrary, say, of the claims of the gospel? What about reason; how would reason come into play in proving the existence of religion? Is it unreasonable to be religous? Irrational? Unjustified? I don't know if reason can prove, say, Hannibal crossing the Alps. Please explain...

    Aaron
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,252
    EyesForTheSkies wrote:
    First, the part of the film discussing religeon isn't even on the same plane of importance as the rest of it, concerning the world bank and all of it's ramifications---that is a pressing matter RIGHT NOW, today, that is affecting everyones lives on the face of the planet... so please don't simply dismiss the other 80 or so minutes based on the fact that you were turned off by the first portion of it...

    Second... You see, the thing about research is, you need to do it for yourself... everyone on the internet is always saying 'show me this show me that' to prove what someone else is saying, and they will sit back and wait for that peron to produce a source---but i'm not going to do your homework for you... i could site you any number of sources, and you would just write them off as biased or inadequate or whatever else... i've done my research, i don't need to convince myself of anything... if you have doubts in your mind, if you feel compelled to seek out the truth, than you will take the time to do the research and come to your own conclusions...

    and that, ultimately is what the film is about... it even says on the statement or sources or one of those pages that is linked at the bottom of the page NOT TO TAKE WHAT THEY SAY AS TRUTH EITHER---- to look it up (and that means beyond what google will tell you) and find out for yourself...

    honestly, i don't care if you arrive at a different conclusion that i do... what i care about is that you at least think about it and read about it and actively pursue information so that you can come to your own conclusions...

    Yes, I do that is the essence behind the movie. If you care or are concerned enough you'll get out there and find out what is what or you can sit back and do nothing. I read books, researched items before the movie and I've done more and will continue to do more since then.

    It comes to knowing for yourself and if it finds you inner peace in doing so then so be it.

    Peace
    Earle
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Smellyman2
    Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    mxaaron wrote:
    Smellydude,
    I'm confused as to what you mean here:

    Religion's existence can be proven; there are at least 100 churches in my rural Kentucky county alone. They are pretty religious, most of them. So I say the existence of religion is easy to prove.

    Perhaps you mean something else; do you mean to say the specific beliefs of religion are "devoid of fact and reason to prove its existence", such as the ressurection? If so, are you saying evidence points to the contrary, say, of the claims of the gospel? What about reason; how would reason come into play in proving the existence of religion? Is it unreasonable to be religous? Irrational? Unjustified? I don't know if reason can prove, say, Hannibal crossing the Alps. Please explain...

    Aaron

    obviously...

    sorry about the semantics
  • EyesForTheSkies
    EyesForTheSkies Posts: 26
    wait... what?..


    yes you do what?.. i don't understand what you're trying to say...

    in my post that you quoted all i was trying to say what that whoever wants an "unbiased source" or whatever, needs to seek that out for his/herself... everyone needs to try to change their own minds...

    i am concerned enough and i do know what's what...

    i don't even know which side of this arguement you're on...


    g under p wrote:
    Yes, I do that is the essence behind the movie. If you care or are concerned enough you'll get out there and find out what is what or you can sit back and do nothing. I read books, researched items before the movie and I've done more and will continue to do more since then.

    It comes to knowing for yourself and if it finds you inner peace in doing so then so be it.

    Peace
    Earle
    he's not a leader, he's a texas leaguer...


    www.zeitgeistmovie.com


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  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    The first part is full of convenient approximations so it doesn't help boost the credibility of the other parts.
    The questions really are interesting though, and it made me think (a lot) which is a good thing and which is more than most movies can say.
    I'd like to know this however :
    I'll agree that lies and self attacks were perpetrated to enter ww1, ww2 and vietnam. All of these happened off the mainland and targeted military while 9/11 targeted civilians and happened on the mainland. Why choose a radically different strategy?

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