How does W keep a straight face when spewing this shit????
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Because he knows the Dems are too chicken-shit to do anything about it. The Democratic "Everything is off the table" Party.0
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Since when has George Bush ever been able to keep a straight face? Everytime I see that guy on TV he has that annoying, Jerky, Ivy-league smirk.0
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unsung wrote:I didn't answer it because I've said it before. I don't support going into Iraq. I'm not a Bush fan, get over yourselves. It would also take a gun to my head with the choice live or die to get me to vote for Obama. Obama is not going to blowout McCain as much as you dreamers think.
Did that clear it up?
1. I never said you supported going to iraq.
2. I never said you were a bush fan.
3. I don't need to get over myself.
4. The gun comment was perhaps a little over the top no? You don't wanna vote for him? Don't. No guns required. Just freedom of choice. I don't care either way.
5. I never said obama is going to blow out mccain. So your 'you dreamers' comment is kinda wasted on me.0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487jwillmo wrote:So you think the proper response to your country doing things you don't agree with is to just leave? That's pretty cowardly. Cut and run, indeed.
No I think the proper response it to get out and do something about it, not complain about it on a Pearl Jam message board.0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Pj_Gurl wrote:Whoa..Settle petal.
1. I never said you supported going to iraq.
2. I never said you were a bush fan.
3. I don't need to get over myself.
4. The gun comment was perhaps a little over the top no? You don't wanna vote for him? Don't. No guns required. Just freedom of choice. I don't care either way.
5. I never said obama is going to blow out mccain. So your 'you dreamers' comment is kinda wasted on me.
Ok, fair enough, I'll take back the dreamers comment pertaining to you. It stands for the majority here though. The gun comment was to stress how much I disagree with his proposed policies, as a resident of Illinois I've had it with his politics and numerous others in this state. I actually think this state rivals California on how screwed up it is.
The Bush thing is because I'm against Obama people think I'm for McCain and therefore Bush. Plus even though I didn't want to go into Iraq I don't think we can just up and leave now, no matter what the reasons were for going in. I'm not blind to see that Iraq is improving, the surge did work, and in the end it may have been the best thing to happen to them. It is a shame that so many people had to die for it to happen.0 -
unsung wrote:Do you really think Iraq is not improving? Or do you simply just not think?
Actually China and Sudan have quite a bit of oil, almost as much as us combined. There are those pesky fact things again though.
China would whip us though huh? Thanks for your patriotism and opinion, no matter how useless it is.
Calling out peoples patriotisim has become a common theme in your posts. Turning a blind eye to the attrocities that your country commits is the least patriotic thing you can do. Does that sink in at all? The Nazi's were uber patriotic; something you can strive for.
On topic: I was listening to Rice trying to call out Russia and it just blew me away that she has the audacity to even talk on the subject after our actions in Iraq. The world is laughing at us.0 -
unsung wrote:No I think the proper response it to get out and do something about it, not complain about it on a Pearl Jam message board.
Someone needs to switch your irony detector to "on".0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487jwillmo wrote:He he he. It appears you have the same lack of self-awareness as our dear leader W. Way to call out people wasting time on a PJ message board, on a PJ message board.
Someone needs to switch your irony detector to "on".
You would be right if I didn't do something in real life. Your reply gets a grade of FAIL.0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Open wrote:Calling out peoples patriotisim has become a common theme in your posts. Turning a blind eye to the attrocities that your country commits is the least patriotic thing you can do. Does that sink in at all? The Nazi's were uber patriotic; something you can strive for.
On topic: I was listening to Rice trying to call out Russia and it just blew me away that she has the audacity to even talk on the subject after our actions in Iraq. The world is laughing at us.
My patriotic comment was in regards to his post saying that we could never beat China in any type of war. Or perhaps it means whatever you want it to be, like a song everyone has a different interpretation.
Tell me what atrocities this country has committed.0 -
unsung wrote:Plus even though I didn't want to go into Iraq I don't think we can just up and leave now, no matter what the reasons were for going in. I'm not blind to see that Iraq is improving, the surge did work, and in the end it may have been the best thing to happen to them. It is a shame that so many people had to die for it to happen.0
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unsung wrote:My patriotic comment was in regards to his post saying that we could never beat China in any type of war. Or perhaps it means whatever you want it to be, like a song everyone has a different interpretation.
Tell me what atrocities this country has committed.
That's the problem right there...you dont see the civilians killed in Iraq as atrocitites. No different than those people in the middle east that didnt have a problem with 9/11. Sad.0 -
unsung wrote:You would be right if I didn't do something in real life. Your reply gets a grade of FAIL.
So, by that reasoning (and to use your 10th grade level of parents' basement internet geek slang) your entire level of rationale gets a fail.0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Where did I say that the death of a person is a good thing? Where did I say that Iraqi civilians' lives were not worth saving? I didn't. Why do you make things up to try to make your point? About eight replies ago I said it was a shame so many people had to die in Iraq. Did you not read that? Or is it easier for your case to put words in my mouth?0
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unsung wrote:Where did I say that the death of a person is a good thing? Where did I say that Iraqi civilians' lives were not worth saving? I didn't. Why do you make things up to try to make your point? About eight replies ago I said it was a shame so many people had to die in Iraq. Did you not read that? Or is it easier for your case to put words in my mouth?
Then you asked for atrocities that this country has commited; selective memory?0 -
Open wrote:Then you asked for atrocities that this country has commited; selective memory?0
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487I don't think that qualifies as an atrocity. Were we targeting civilians? I don't think so. Are you are saying our troops should be tried for war crimes? The loss of civilian lives is unfortunate, but we weren't there digging mass graves and committing mass executions.
9/11 was an atrocity, the Holocaust was an atrocity, Darfur is an atrocity. Civilians were purposely targeted in those cases, I don't think many of the deaths of Iraqi civilians were intentionally committed by Coalition troops. Granted there are some instances that have happened and those that committed those crimes did commit an atrocity and they should pay for their crimes.
I just think atrocity should be reserve for the intentional targeting of civilians, and I don't believe our troops do this as a general course of action.0 -
unsung wrote:I don't think that qualifies as an atrocity. Were we targeting civilians? I don't think so. Are you are saying our troops should be tried for war crimes? The loss of civilian lives is unfortunate, but we weren't there digging mass graves and committing mass executions.
9/11 was an atrocity, the Holocaust was an atrocity, Darfur is an atrocity. Civilians were purposely targeted in those cases, I don't think many of the deaths of Iraqi civilians were intentionally committed by Coalition troops. Granted there are some instances that have happened and those that committed those crimes did commit an atrocity and they should pay for their crimes.
I just think atrocity should be reserve for the intentional targeting of civilians, and I don't believe our troops do this as a general course of action.
When lives are lost in a war based on lies and propaganda, yes it is an atrocity.
EDIT: 100000's Iraqi's dead; imagine the number if we were targeting them....give me a break.0 -
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