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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    810wmb wrote:
    hell, i'd clap for him if he wanted to try
    to invade his wife or Iran? hahah
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    mammasan wrote:
    Unfortunetly he is.


    I swear somethings going down with the weed in Fl. They're spraying it with something, or a huge crop got harvested too close to an industrial area.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I swear somethings going down with the weed in Fl. They're spraying it with something, or a huge crop got harvested too close to an industrial area.

    haha....nah it's just florida....i'd go batshit crazy to if i had to live in that hell hole....;) :D
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    I think the funny thing is this...

    ... i could be wrong here,

    ... but can someone point out to me where, if anywhere, Iran has "acted like it has a nuclear weapon" or is pursuing them?

    I think what this thread speaks to is that the US Media is SO good at manipulation and outright propaganda, that people think Iran is actling like it wants a bomb.

    Everything i've EVER read, from IAEA reports to iranian official statements basicaly says this:

    Iran has firmly denied (and aparently rightly) that it wants to pursue nuclear weapons. Even Amadinejad has repeatedly stated that he wants only the right to nuclear ENERGY, and that his country has this right, and was sanctioned for it, approved by America for it, and helped in its quest for such since the last half of the 20th century.

    They have never, best i can read, done any posturing like they want or have nuclear weapons. The only thing they do, is not cooperate with efforts to "disarm" their nuclear research. If not complying with inspections and refusing to stop enriching <5% uranium for peaceful purposes is acting like you want nukes, ok. But i don't see it.

    Anyone else confused here?
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    cutback wrote:
    haha....nah it's just florida....i'd go batshit crazy to if i had to live in that hell hole....;) :D


    hehe yeah...apparently it seems a lot of people would ;)
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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    ( o.O)
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    I think the funny thing is this...

    ... i could be wrong here,

    ... but can someone point out to me where, if anywhere, Iran has "acted like it has a nuclear weapon" or is pursuing them?

    I think what this thread speaks to is that the US Media is SO good at manipulation and outright propaganda, that people think Iran is actling like it wants a bomb.

    Everything i've EVER read, from IAEA reports to iranian official statements basicaly says this:

    Iran has firmly denied (and aparently rightly) that it wants to pursue nuclear weapons. Even Amadinejad has repeatedly stated that he wants only the right to nuclear ENERGY, and that his country has this right, and was sanctioned for it, approved by America for it, and helped in its quest for such since the last half of the 20th century.

    They have never, best i can read, done any posturing like they want or have nuclear weapons. The only thing they do, is not cooperate with efforts to "disarm" their nuclear research. If not complying with inspections and refusing to stop enriching <5% uranium for peaceful purposes is acting like you want nukes, ok. But i don't see it.

    Anyone else confused here?

    Iran is now stomping it's feet in contempt confident that it has US in it's pocket.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20071204/wl_mcclatchy/2773393

    Israel must be run by some scary, evil racist people of unknown origin...they certainly aren't Jewish or close to human in nature.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    I think the funny thing is this...

    ... i could be wrong here,

    ... but can someone point out to me where, if anywhere, Iran has "acted like it has a nuclear weapon" or is pursuing them?

    I think what this thread speaks to is that the US Media is SO good at manipulation and outright propaganda, that people think Iran is actling like it wants a bomb.

    Everything i've EVER read, from IAEA reports to iranian official statements basicaly says this:

    Iran has firmly denied (and aparently rightly) that it wants to pursue nuclear weapons. Even Amadinejad has repeatedly stated that he wants only the right to nuclear ENERGY, and that his country has this right, and was sanctioned for it, approved by America for it, and helped in its quest for such since the last half of the 20th century.

    They have never, best i can read, done any posturing like they want or have nuclear weapons. The only thing they do, is not cooperate with efforts to "disarm" their nuclear research. If not complying with inspections and refusing to stop enriching <5% uranium for peaceful purposes is acting like you want nukes, ok. But i don't see it.

    Anyone else confused here?

    Totally agree with you drifting, i can't see it either, but it might be because i don't get the same news.
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I swear somethings going down with the weed in Fl. They're spraying it with something, or a huge crop got harvested too close to an industrial area.

    imagine...turning off the tv...receiving information...relating it to the human spirit and human behaviors...size the information up...twist it and turn and eat...and come up with your own opinion on why or what is happening..all this set in your brain...because you are being lied to.


    or continue to let them tell you what is happening and watch the media speculate what you just saw 5 seconds ago and you will lose all ability to think for yourself

    its evolution baby..use it or lose it...


    weed is fine in florida, nice comments... make yourself feel better huh?

    it feels good when you know you are way more developed mentally than another doesnt it...
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    macgyver06 wrote:
    imagine...turning off the tv...receiving information...relating it to the human spirit and human behaviors...size the information up...twist it and turn and eat...and come up with your own opinion on why or what is happening..all this set in your brain...because you are being lied to.


    or continue to let them tell you what is happening and watch the media speculate what you just saw 5 seconds ago and you will lose all ability to think for yourself

    its evolution baby..use it or lose it...


    weed is fine in florida, nice comments... make yourself feel better huh?

    it feels good when you know you are way more developed mentally than another doesnt it...


    Self aggrandizement is pretty pathetic if you ask me.
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    mammasan wrote:
    Self aggrandizement is pretty pathetic if you ask me.

    was that message addressed to you?? lol

    grow the fuck up. good god...

    this board is to talk about issues and politics and events in the world...


    GO TO A CHAT ROOM LOSER.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    macgyver06 wrote:
    was that message addressed to you?? lol

    grow the fuck up. good god...

    this board is to talk about issues and politics and events in the world...


    GO TO A CHAT ROOM LOSER.

    I guess I struck a nerve.
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    mammasan wrote:
    I guess I struck a nerve.


    no youre a fucking asshole...you didnt strike a nerve this is a fucking message board... your little cute smartass remarks offer nothing to a discussion...do you do this when your 1 on 1 with someone...lol its completely ridiculous... be careful your behavior here doesnt carry over into the real world...
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    I love this quote from Barak.


    "It seems Iran in 2003 halted for a certain period of time its military nuclear program, but as far as we know, it has probably since revived it," Barak said.

    "Probably"?

    Oh man, nothing like starting a bunch of shit based on conjecture.

    asshole.
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    NMyTree wrote:
    I love this quote from Barak.


    "It seems Iran in 2003 halted for a certain period of time its military nuclear program, but as far as we know, it has probably since revived it," Barak said.

    "Probably"?

    Oh man, nothing like starting a bunch of shit based on conjecture.

    asshole.

    ya thats insane. these candidates wont go near the truth when asked yes and no questions, but are quick to speculate what someone else may or may not be doing.. as if its fucking important to begin with :)


    IRAN ISNT AND NEVER WILL BE A THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES.

    EVER.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    macgyver06 wrote:
    no youre a fucking asshole...you didnt strike a nerve this is a fucking message board... your little cute smartass remarks offer nothing to a discussion...do you do this when your 1 on 1 with someone...lol its completely ridiculous... be careful your behavior here doesnt carry over into the real world...

    Well it's pretty damn obvious I struck a nerve, by you resorting to vulgarity and name calling. During my time on this message board I have offered more intellectual debate in one post than you have in the past two days. You constantly mock others who do not share your opinion, your posts are usually littered with non-sense and hyperbolic statements devoid of any fact to back them. Your constant use of the word sheeple is annoying. You carry this air that anyone who doesn't see the world or events within your prespective is either a fool or brainwashed. Your basically a borderline troll who hardly offeres any real substance to any debate on this board.

    As for my behavior ehere, it is no different than the way I act in the real world. I have no restarint in telling people how I feel about them. I don't do thisw in a malevelant or malicious way but I will not put on a face simply to hide my true feelings.

    So I'm glad you don't like my smartass remarks. They where posted to mirror your usually bag of useless posts. Now maybe you can see what a bag of putrid vile your dumbass posts amount to.
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    mammasan wrote:
    Well it's pretty damn obvious I struck a nerve, by you resorting to vulgarity and name calling. During my time on this message board I have offered more intellectual debate in one post than you have in the past two days. You constantly mock others who do not share your opinion, your posts are usually littered with non-sense and hyperbolic statements devoid of any fact to back them. Your constant use of the word sheeple is annoying. You carry this air that anyone who doesn't see the world or events within your prespective is either a fool or brainwashed. Your basically a borderline troll who hardly offeres any real substance to any debate on this board.

    As for my behavior ehere, it is no different than the way I act in the real world. I have no restarint in telling people how I feel about them. I don't do thisw in a malevelant or malicious way but I will not put on a face simply to hide my true feelings.

    So I'm glad you don't like my smartass remarks. They where posted to mirror your usually bag of useless posts. Now maybe you can see what a bag of putrid vile your dumbass posts amount to.


    i read none of this...congratulations wasting your time.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    macgyver06 wrote:
    i read none of this...congratulations wasting your time.

    It's a slow day at the office so I have plenty of time to kill.
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  • malabogia
    malabogia Posts: 59
    Mestophar wrote:
    They have said repeatedly they stopped trying to develope nukes a long time ago.
    This is true. Ahmedinejad never confirmed they were going for the bomb. he just said Iran needs the nuclear power for its people. But also he denied the access of the UN investigators to the places where he was developing nuclear power.
    Could it be that he was hoping for a similar agreement that N.Korea did. Think about it. You are not doing, let's say, project A but the big boys don't believe that and put pressure on you to stop doing project A and there is a fine example of what you can get from bigboys (N.Korea) if you made them believe that you are stopping project A. Jackpot, a lot of fund for Ahmedinejad from the bigboys when he most needs it (Iranian economy is not going very well these days). you can strike a deal getting permission to develop a peaceful nuclear program under the strict observation of IAEA so you get two birds with one stone.
    And also Ahmedinejad was aware that american people won't support Bush even if he wanted to invade his wife's vagina so I think he took the risk.
    but this report just came out on the wrong time.
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    malabogia wrote:
    This is true. Ahmedinejad never confirmed they were going for the bomb. he just said Iran needs the nuclear power for its people. But also he denied the access of the UN investigators to the places where he was developing nuclear power.
    Could it be that he was hoping for a similar agreement that N.Korea did. Think about it. You are not doing, let's say, project A but the big boys don't believe that and put pressure on you to stop doing project A and there is a fine example of what you can get from bigboys (N.Korea) if you made them believe that you are stopping project A. Jackpot, a lot of fund for Ahmedinejad from the bigboys when he most needs it (Iranian economy is not going very well these days). you can strike a deal getting permission to develop a peaceful nuclear program under the strict observation of IAEA so you get two birds with one stone.
    And also Ahmedinejad was aware that american people won't support Bush even if he wanted to invade his wife's vagina so I think he took the risk.
    but this report just came out on the wrong time.

    wow...i never thought of it like that. but i definitely believe this report is interfering with bushs evil scheme to obtain more money
  • malabogia
    malabogia Posts: 59
    macgyver06 wrote:
    wow...i never thought of it like that. but i definitely believe this report is interfering with bushs evil scheme to obtain more money
    Yeah the Iranians have been a sovereign nation (with some periods under invasion) for many thousands years, they really know how to make diplomacy and how to benefit from a position that seems against them. I am sure of that.
    Not like Bush administration; bomb them first, ask the questions later...
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