Putin and Iran send us a message

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    810wmb wrote:
    would you be willing to give up your life and yr friends life by having yr city hit first, before striking, so that we aren't the aggressor?

    no of course not but Iran isnt posing a threat to our cities. we have no valid reason to "hit them first". it worth the effort to make peace with people who hate us first, before dropping bombs.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no of course not but Iran isnt posing a threat to our cities. we have no valid reason to "hit them first". it worth the effort to make peace with people who hate us first, before dropping bombs.

    if you think that iran wouldn't sell a dirty bomb, or any other for that matter, to terrorists, you need to rethink things.
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no of course not but Iran isnt posing a threat to our cities. we have no valid reason to "hit them first". it worth the effort to make peace with people who hate us first, before dropping bombs.

    Exactly (hell is freezing over right now :D).

    Besides, not everyone in Iran hates the Americans, you know. They don't want war, they don't want their families dead, nor your families.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    810wmb wrote:
    if you think that iran wouldn't sell a dirty bomb, or any other for that matter, to terrorists, you need to rethink things.

    Iran is probably 5-10 years away from producing weapons grade nuclear material. but so far, the IAEA seems to have decent control of the situation.

    but I hear what your sayin 810. I wouldnt put it past them to do that. but if we extend the olive branch first, relations can be fixed. there is a whole generation of young Iranians who do not hate America. peace, through means of diplomacy is always the better option.

    Iran is talking tough but have only made defensive threats.

    you'll have to look at Iraq as a perfect example about the nuke issue. we have no proof of the claims you make.

    besides, Iran's biggest beef is with Israel. if that situation can be solved the world would be a much better place.
  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    810wmb wrote:
    the world is one big playground, just that the stakes are higher


    and they just keep getting higher. Are we prepared to have Turkey and Pakistan enter that playground in turmoil?
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    810wmb wrote:
    would you be willing to give up your life and yr friends life by having yr city hit first, before striking, so that we aren't the aggressor?

    There is a flaw to your question and that is that Iran would never launch a nuclear assault on any country. Your fear of Iran is irrational, fueled by media propaganda of this fictious boogie-man who is hell bent on destroying the old red, white, and blue. To this day there is absolutely no proof that Iran is using their nuclear program for anything other than civilian purposes. All this talk from this administration is nothing more than fear-mongering so that the uninformed masses can nod in agreement to our continued military presence and build up in the region. It's all about oil baby, us, Russia, China know that it's running out and we are flexing our muscle and wiping it out to see who has the bigger dick so we can have control of what's left. It has nothing to do with Iran's nuclear program. It has everything to do with Iran's close relationship with China and Russia. We want a pro-US government in there so we can have first dips.
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    810wmb wrote:
    if you think that iran wouldn't sell a dirty bomb, or any other for that matter, to terrorists, you need to rethink things.


    you need to stop watching war movies and tv news


    WOW!?
  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    810wmb wrote:
    i disagree....

    as long as we're top dog, someone will want to knock us down


    Then you should go after China.
  • Its Evolution Baby
    Its Evolution Baby Posts: 849
    810wmb wrote:
    would you be willing to give up your life and yr friends life by having yr city hit first, before striking, so that we aren't the aggressor?

    The only time the US did a Preemptive Strike was in this current Iraq war, and we all see how that is working out for us.

    If we didn't use Preemptive measures during the friggin Cold War,then why would we do it now.

    The USSR had way more weapons to destroy us then Iran ever has or will.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Open wrote:
    Then you should go after China.

    thats funny. you think china is the "top dog" in the world? I admit, they have potential, but they are decades behind
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    No world leader, not even Kim Jong Il, is suicidal. Crazy maybe, but not suicidal. Everyone knows if they nuke us even once their country will become an uninhabitable wasteland overnight.

    this is much ado about nothing.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    810wmb wrote:
    if you think that iran wouldn't sell a dirty bomb, or any other for that matter, to terrorists, you need to rethink things.

    The evil middle east...lol...always up to nothing but evil when we sleep...

    Boo!
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I thought Putin was supposed to get assassinated in Iran. I guess he didn't buy into the hype..
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    mammasan wrote:
    There is a flaw to your question and that is that Iran would never launch a nuclear assault on any country. Your fear of Iran is irrational, fueled by media propaganda of this fictious boogie-man who is hell bent on destroying the old red, white, and blue. To this day there is absolutely no proof that Iran is using their nuclear program for anything other than civilian purposes. All this talk from this administration is nothing more than fear-mongering so that the uninformed masses can nod in agreement to our continued military presence and build up in the region. It's all about oil baby, us, Russia, China know that it's running out and we are flexing our muscle and wiping it out to see who has the bigger dick so we can have control of what's left. It has nothing to do with Iran's nuclear program. It has everything to do with Iran's close relationship with China and Russia. We want a pro-US government in there so we can have first dips.

    i disagree
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    jlew24asu wrote:
    besides, Iran's biggest beef is with Israel. if that situation can be solved the world would be a much better place.

    i agree, but it ain't gonna be solved, so that puts us in the middle of it.

    the dude wants israel gone, we are allies sooo...
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    810wmb wrote:
    if you think that iran wouldn't sell a dirty bomb, or any other for that matter, to terrorists, you need to rethink things.


    Just like we sell weapons to Israel so they can bomb beirute and threaten to bomb Iran?

    Your arguments just show how much like "them" you are. It's b/c of people with the mindset like you on both sides, that we are in the situation we're in.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    Open wrote:
    Just like we sell weapons to Israel so they can bomb beirute and threaten to bomb Iran?

    Your arguments just show how much like "them" you are. It's b/c of people with the mindset like you on both sides, that we are in the situation we're in.

    people like me?

    hahahhahhahaha
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I just have to ask...was it a message in a bottle?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,753
    810wmb wrote:
    the world is one big playground, just that the stakes are higher

    so are you saying we should be the schoolyard bully that beats up the rest and takes their lunch money? what a good idea. that strategy has worked so brilliantly so far.

    seriously, being a hawk does nothing but inflame the situation.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."

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