prayer

Collin
Collin Posts: 4,931
edited May 2007 in A Moving Train
A question for the religious folks here; do you pray? And if so, is it like a personal outlet? Is it asking god for assistence and do you think he'll give it to you? Or do you by praying somehow renew or strengthen your faith automatically? I was wondering how the people here viewed prayer.

The question came to me when I was reading in the atheist thread, where several christians said they pray for atheists. So what exactly is it you pray for? I'm just interested and I can understand if you think this is too personal and don't want to share...

Also, I've always appreciated prayer before a meal, obviously I don't pray to god but I like a moment of silence before I eat... I'm very grateful too.

I guess it's inevitable, this thread will turn into a "god sucks - no you suck" thread but I'm hoping I can get a few nice reasonable and respectful answer before it happens:)
THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    Collin, it's interesting for me that you mention prayer, as I've done more praying in the past few days than in my whole life probably, as I'm dealing with a tragedy. Before I was ever spiritual, I believed in the 'power of prayer' simply because I believed that 'positive energy' can heal. I think that prayer is cathartic for most people, kind of like your moment of silence.

    I hope your thread doesn't get belittled or hijacked by insults as I, too, would like to hear other's take on prayer.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    I don't 'pray'... so to speak. More like I 'talk' to God on the soliitude of the beach or whenever i feel I need to say something... which, isn't that often.
    I don't say a prayer before a meal because... to me, it seems a bit silly to thank God for these two chili dogs and a Coke. But, I have no quarrels with anyone who does.
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  • Collin wrote:
    A question for the religious folks here; do you pray? And if so, is it like a personal outlet? Is it asking god for assistence and do you think he'll give it to you? Or do you by praying somehow renew or strengthen your faith automatically? I was wondering how the people here viewed prayer.

    The question came to me when I was reading in the atheist thread, where several christians said they pray for atheists. So what exactly is it you pray for? I'm just interested and I can understand if you think this is too personal and don't want to share...

    Also, I've always appreciated prayer before a meal, obviously I don't pray to god but I like a moment of silence before I eat... I'm very grateful too.

    I guess it's inevitable, this thread will turn into a "god sucks - no you suck" thread but I'm hoping I can get a few nice reasonable and respectful answer before it happens:)

    at the time I read this, your post count was 6,666...
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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    I say a prayer of thanks before every meal, and try to say a prayer everyday at least at bedtime. I try to stick to giving thanks for what I and others have, ask forgiveness for my shortcomings and find the strength to be the person I should be. Depending on what's going on in my life I may ask for strength for me or others to deal with what life has presented them with and the strength to make the right choices.

    I'm not big on asking God for things like good health or money or stuff like that. I try to stick to the wisdom and strength to deal with life as I should.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    im not religious, but i pray daily. it's weird. it's not quite meditation (though it's similar to that), but at the same time im not quite sure who im praying to. i believe in a higher power, but im not quite sure how i would define it. it's certainly not god in the zeus/christian sense. more of a... i dont know. it's more like the force in star wars. when i pray, i pray to that... for guidance.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    I was at a catholic's place a few weeks ago for dinner and they all thanked God for the food. I thanked them for the feast. God has never invited me over for dinner.
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    at the time I read this, your post count was 6,666...


    :D

    And thank you everyone who has answered so far!
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • Ahnimus wrote:
    I was at a catholic's place a few weeks ago for dinner and they all thanked God for the food. I thanked them for the feast. God has never invited me over for dinner.

    The wine is probably excellent...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Collin wrote:
    A question for the religious folks here; do you pray? And if so, is it like a personal outlet? Is it asking god for assistence and do you think he'll give it to you? Or do you by praying somehow renew or strengthen your faith automatically? I was wondering how the people here viewed prayer.

    The question came to me when I was reading in the atheist thread, where several christians said they pray for atheists. So what exactly is it you pray for? I'm just interested and I can understand if you think this is too personal and don't want to share...

    Also, I've always appreciated prayer before a meal, obviously I don't pray to god but I like a moment of silence before I eat... I'm very grateful too.

    I guess it's inevitable, this thread will turn into a "god sucks - no you suck" thread but I'm hoping I can get a few nice reasonable and respectful answer before it happens:)

    i haven't read the thread but i want to address your question. first; i think prayer takes many forms. seeing the sun come up over the mountains and being thankful for it's beauty is prayer. when i pray for an atheist; i simply say to myself "i hope they find enlightenment". when i see a calf being born and a tear comes to my eye as it struggles to get to it's feet; i say thank you for letting me be here to experience it. prayer is being thankful. maybe you don't know who you're thanking. who do you thank for the sunrise?
    so prayer is different for different people.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    My prayers generally consist of giving thanks for blessings, asking for help in using those blessings for good purposes, asking forgiveness and praying for friends, family and co-workers to have peace and faith in their lives.

    Sometimes impromptu prayers occur when I see someone who is suffering or having a rough time. I usually ask for them to be lifted up and helped.
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  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    saying a prayer over dinner was something my family did at a gathering like a Thanksgiving meal.

    Billy prays every night over dinner, so I've gotten into the habit of lowering my head and saying a few words to "the great big whatever who I will call God for lack of a shorter term". I thank this being for my meal and all the work that went into it, and the life it cost. I thank this being for letting me live another day in order to EAT the meal, and then I thank this being for all the blessings my family and this world have received.

    And then I eat.
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  • Eli
    Eli Posts: 13
    What a great thread! Thank you, Collin, for starting it.
    I think everyone prays in a way. According to Longman dictionary of contemporary English, to pray means 1) to speak to God in order to ask for help or give thanks. 2) to wish or hope very strongly that something will happen. I definitely have to go with the second definition because to me, a prayer is like a wish. Regardless of religion, everyone has wishes, right? As for myself, I have been practicing Nichiren Buddhism for quite a few years now and I chant Nam-myoho-renge-kyo (the Law of the Universe) every day so that I can strengthen my wisdom and vital life force. “In Nichiren Buddhism, the faithful are self-reliant, not dependent on an external force. Their prayer -- unlike the begging of the powerless -- issues from their resolve to awaken their innate Buddhahood. Their prayer, in turn, fuels their actions to conquer the causes of unhappiness for both themselves and many others. Faith expresses itself in prayer, and prayer leads to action. This is an unchanging formula of Nichiren Buddhists for winning in life." Prayer without action will not accomplish much. It’s like having a dream but not taking action to make that dream come true.
    OK. Before I wrap this up, I would like to share something that happened to me while I was visiting someone in Victoria, Canada, who did not know I am a Buddhist. So, as we sat at the dinner table this lady I was visiting said, “Let’s say a prayer before we eat, and how about having Eliana do that?” Well, I was a little shy as I was not used to that sort of thing, but I gladly accepted her request, and all I did was just thank her for the meal, and then I wished everyone health and happiness. =)

    Peace,

    Eliana
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Here's a newsflash. i pray.
    For guidance, assistance, and in thanksgiving. i don't pray in an attempt to renew my faith, i pray because i have it.
    Do i pray for people who don't share my faith? Yes. Not for their salvation, or that they will come to share my faith, but for some of the same reasons i pray for myself. It is sincere and heartfelt.
    By the same token, i greatly appreciate it when people pray for me. i also appreciate it when people who don't share MY faith, do whatever is THEY do, even if i don't personally practice it, in my behalf.
    So whatever it is you do, i invite you to think of me once in awhile :)
    Light a candle, do a dance, smoke a doobie, burn some incense or do some type of well wishing incantation :) Whatever.
    i have an issue with self deprecation and loathing. Just throwing it out there :)
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  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    cornnifer wrote:
    Here's a newsflash. i pray.
    For guidance, assistance, and in thanksgiving. i don't pray in an attempt to renew my faith, i pray because i have it.
    Do i pray for people who don't share my faith? Yes. Not for their salvation, or that they will come to share my faith, but for some of the same reasons i pray for myself. It is sincere and heartfelt.
    By the same token, i greatly appreciate it when people pray for me. i also appreciate it when people who don't share MY faith, do whatever is THEY do, even if i don't personally practice it, in my behalf.
    So whatever it is you do, i invite you to think of me once in awhile :)
    Light a candle, do a dance, smoke a doobie, burn some incense or do some type of well wishing incantation :) Whatever.
    i have an issue with self deprecation and loathing. Just throwing it out there :)

    I pray for you.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    cornnifer wrote:
    So whatever it is you do, i invite you to think of me once in awhile :)...
    i have an issue with self deprecation and loathing. Just throwing it out there :)

    Consider it done. :) Peace.
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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    i haven't read the thread but i want to address your question. first; i think prayer takes many forms. seeing the sun come up over the mountains and being thankful for it's beauty is prayer. when i pray for an atheist; i simply say to myself "i hope they find enlightenment". when i see a calf being born and a tear comes to my eye as it struggles to get to it's feet; i say thank you for letting me be here to experience it. prayer is being thankful. maybe you don't know who you're thanking. who do you thank for the sunrise?
    so prayer is different for different people.
    I'm not sure it really IS different for different people... I'm not religious but more spiritual but I pray... I pray in the same way everyone else on this thread said they pray... and we're all of pretty much different beliefs. Maybe it's just talking to myself and reminding myself how lucky I am and hoping that others could be as lucky as me - a kinda pep talk I suppose. OR maybe a higher body CAN hear me and I'm thanking him/her/it. I do ask/encourage myself to be brave and wise in certain situations. I also ask/wish that others have the same sense of contentment that I have - yes, even so called religious people. It's odd how they pray for my soul and I too pray for theirs :confused: . I ask/wish/pray that they could see past the book telling them how to live and actually start living and really seeing everything that's around them.

    So yep, I'll pray for you all next time :) including you cornnifer :)
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  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    angelica wrote:
    Consider it done. :) Peace.

    Ya, see. Maybe someone here took me to heart and its paying off. :)
    a few minutes ago i surprisingly scored just what every self-loather needs... tickets to see Morrissey :D:D
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  • PJ_Saluki
    PJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    One of my roomies prays before she goes to her computer class. She asks God to give her the strength not to wish bad things on her wheelchair-bound professor. Whatever it takes, I guess.
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  • Even Ninja's pray.....for death! :D (c. 1985)

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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    I'm not sure it really IS different for different people... I'm not religious but more spiritual but I pray... I pray in the same way everyone else on this thread said they pray... and we're all of pretty much different beliefs. Maybe it's just talking to myself and reminding myself how lucky I am and hoping that others could be as lucky as me - a kinda pep talk I suppose. OR maybe a higher body CAN hear me and I'm thanking him/her/it. I do ask/encourage myself to be brave and wise in certain situations. I also ask/wish that others have the same sense of contentment that I have - yes, even so called religious people. It's odd how they pray for my soul and I too pray for theirs :confused: . I ask/wish/pray that they could see past the book telling them how to live and actually start living and really seeing everything that's around them.

    So yep, I'll pray for you all next time :) including you cornnifer :)

    i think you just said what i said. either way; i agree. except one thing; i pray differently every time. when i need to do some deep soul searching; i'll pray in meditation. if i see something terrible on the tele; i may say a catholic prayer. when i see a desert sunset with the sky all lit up with reds to purples with the sun cradled in the saddle of a mountain; that's a different prayer. atheists pray. they just don't recognize it as prayer. prayer is giving thanks. you cannot petition the Lord with prayer. praying for something for yourself is selfish and there's no place for selfishness in religion. picture a child begging his mum for different things all day long. isn't that what you're doing when you pray FOR something? now if you're praying for someone else; that's giving; which is a part of most religions. that's why prayer is being thankful.
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