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  • Jeanie wrote:
    Well they seem to have no problem with me marching onto the plane with filled hyperdermics in my hand luggage!!! :rolleyes: But they have stopped me taking aeroguard!! :D Which would you prefer???? ;):D

    Yes! Do take pics of the fire lucy. :) And post them. :) That would be excellent. :) "Impressive"? The fire is "impressive"? hehe! :D Is it tapping into some base hunter/gatherer instinct? ;)

    Anyhoo, :rolleyes: I probably shouldn't be hijacking the thread when I should be pm'ing you. I know I owe you a couple. Sorry. :o

    You have a great weekend luce! And give my love to the fambily. :)

    xxoo

    Btw!!! I'm ALWAYS good!! ;):p:D

    ...Jeanie..this may be a record for smiley posts. Holy!
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    you hijack a thread? never jeanie. :D:D:p

    Well no one's about!! ;) Just got caught up as usual. :o

    And besides, this thread could do with a bit of pleasantness. :D
    NOPE!!!

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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    ...Jeanie..this may be a record for smiley posts. Holy!

    Nope!!! I don't think so!! :D

    I mean it certainly isn't a personal best of mine for starters!!! ;)

    And I do recall seeing a post once on a birthday thread that was just line after line of smileys. Musta been over a hundred just in the one post!! :eek:

    That's my personal goal!!! ;)
    NOPE!!!

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  • Jeanie wrote:
    Nope!!! I don't think so!! :D

    I mean it certainly isn't a personal best of mine for starters!!! ;)

    And I do recall seeing a post once on a birthday thread that was just line after line of smileys. Musta been over a hundred just in the one post!! :eek:

    That's my personal goal!!! ;)

    Actually you know what? that was me!...lol. Ahnimus said it gave him stabbing pains in his head then his computer crashed :D rofl...

    It's really easy...type all of them, or a nice looking pattern...select them....hit crtl-c...then just hold down ctrl-v until the max post length is reached
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Actually you know what? that was me!...lol. Ahnimus said it gave him stabbing pains in his head then his computer crashed :D rofl...

    It's really easy...type all of them, or a nice looking pattern...select them....hit crtl-c...then just hold down ctrl-v until the max post length is reached

    CONGRATULATIONS!!!! :D Excellent work!!! :)
    So like this? ;):p:D

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    hmmmm......:rolleyes:.....think you mighta created a monster!!! ;):p:D
    NOPE!!!

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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Jeanie wrote:
    CONGRATULATIONS!!!! :D Excellent work!!! :)
    So like this? ;):p:D

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    hmmmm......:rolleyes:.....think you mighta created a monster!!! ;):p:D

    :D Hey future girl! Nice work!
    Actually you know what? that was me!...lol.
    Was that the one he blamed on Rats of Multa?? ;)
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  • lol yeah...

    If you get creative you could probably paint a picture with them using them as pixels.. I might come up with something.... :D
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    angelica wrote:
    :D Hey future girl! Nice work!

    Thanks love!! :)

    How are you angel? :)
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • angelica wrote:
    :D Hey future girl! Nice work!

    Was that the one he blamed on Rats of Multa?? ;)

    Yeah I just kept my mouth shut and looked down (smiling)... :D

    You have to put a space after the last one before ctrl-c'ing them so they flow better... :D
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    why do athiests have so much anger toward those of religion? religious threads here turn into athiest trying to prove those of religion are wrong. why? where does this anger come from. if you tell someone of religion that you are athiest; they feel sorry for you and maybe pray for you; which is an act of compassion to them. yet athiests can't wait to jump on someone trying to prove they're wrong. they disrespect that person and thier beliefs. are these the attributes of a "good" person?

    It is narcissistic to be certain of a premise for which there is no evidence at all.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Musta missed that, I was more thinking back to a coupla days ago when soulsinging was casting doubt on some of OLS's claims to fame. I was thinig he would be beside himself today.


    why would i be beside myself? i grew up in a time when people set goals and made accomplishments in thier lives. at age 8 i had my own lawn cutting service in the neighborhood. by age 12 i was on a weekly payroll and was never out of work until i retired at age 40. at age 14 i got a science scholorship to u of i. some people excell. evidently ss doesn't. i don't see my accomplishments as being out of the ordinary. in fact; many in my class did much better so i think of myself as a little behind the others. if ss thinks i did more than a person can do; i feel sorry for him.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Jesus, don't tell me that OLS has beed dead as well as eveything else !!

    Was another one called ?? Are there now two OLS's in the world ? Does the second one have a JAmaican accent ?? Is there a Watcher with a big ebough pair ??

    yea luce; and i'll fax you the surgical report to prove it. i guess a lot more things happen to people who go after life with a passion.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    that's a good point... if all that it takes is water from the lorudes shrine from onelongsong to cure cancer... what the fuck is he doing here? he should be out there healing people like jesus did!


    sorry ss; i forgot i have to explain things to you at a grade school level.

    i've never been to lourdes. i bought a few glass crosses filled with water from lourdes and sent them to sick relatives because i knew it would comfort them. i never claimed the water cured but i won't deny it. i just don't know. the point of the story was that THEY believed it would help and it backed up my claims that mindset has a lot to do with recovering from an illness. i know these threads are hard for you to follow; but if you re-read that page; you'll see that we were discussing how the mind; and a persons beliefs can help pull them through an illness.
  • well if belief has anything to do with overcoming physical situations look at Lance Armstrong...

    or read his book "it's not about the bike"...

    pretty incredible stuff...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    sorry ss; i forgot i have to explain things to you at a grade school level.

    i've never been to lourdes. i bought a few glass crosses filled with water from lourdes and sent them to sick relatives because i knew it would comfort them. i never claimed the water cured but i won't deny it. i just don't know. the point of the story was that THEY believed it would help and it backed up my claims that mindset has a lot to do with recovering from an illness. i know these threads are hard for you to follow; but if you re-read that page; you'll see that we were discussing how the mind; and a persons beliefs can help pull them through an illness.

    It is a common practice in Japanese medical circles to tell a critical patient that they are getting better in order to affect a positive outlook for the patient.

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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    hippiemom wrote:
    Surely you don't think this is a bad thing? You can't claim a cure until you can PROVE that it's a CURE ... that sounds quite reasonable to me. Without that requirement, anyone could gather a bit of anecdotal evidence about anything at all and start marketing it as a cure, and desperate dying people would waste their money on it. There is enough of that going on already, for everything from weight loss aids to miracle cancer cures ... anything that can be done to prevent more of it is a good thing.

    I don't deny that pharmaceutical companies benefit from these rules, but there are other good reasons to have the rules in place.

    if it were 1 person; i never would have connected his cure with anything. if it was only my research i'd think i was doing something wrong. but my research agrees with several other research facilities; including information printed by the usda. i don't expect anyone to believe me; but i think an intelligent person would ask thier doctor about it. doctors refer more customers to me than any other source. including national advertising.
    i can see where the laws will help in some cases; but i also see where the law allows people to die needlessly. let's be honest; do you think buffalo meat would harm anyone by eating it? so the law is not protecting anyone from harm in this case. but what if it doesn't cure thier cancer? it's a proven fact that buffalo meat will reduce cholesterol and strenghten the heart and imune system. maybe this is what helps cure cancer. making someone healthier and better able to fight the disease. i don't know why it works; only that it works in several patients. i don't know if it works for everyone either. thus another reason it can't be called a cure.

    when i was a child i found a buffalo nickel and after a long talk with my dad about buffalo; my dream was to raise buffalo. that was my dream for retirement. to work my ass off until i was 40; then retire and watch the buffalo eat. after the article in the amj; the buffalo associations started pushing this information and farms around the country started raising buffalo to "cash in" on the upcoming cure. the problem is; they raised the buffalo like cattle which destroys a lot of the medicinal value. my research was to prove that only buffalo raised as wild contains the proper chemical structure to cure these diseases (cancer; heart disease; obesity; and others). my research has helped in convincing ted turner; the largest producer of buffalo meat; http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1599697-1,00.html to start raising buffalo properly. i'm proud of what i do and i hope i can help people everywhere.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Jesus, don't tell me that OLS has beed dead as well as eveything else !!

    Was another one called ?? Are there now two OLS's in the world ? Does the second one have a JAmaican accent ?? Is there a Watcher with a big ebough pair ??

    his resume will blow your mind... there are few things he hasnt done.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Musta missed that, I was more thinking back to a coupla days ago when soulsinging was casting doubt on some of OLS's claims to fame. I was thinig he would be beside himself today.

    oh, ive kinda given up on any straight talk from him. but for those who weren't keeping count, here's the resume:

    - dead, and resurrected
    - medical miracle
    - rock star
    - killed 2 people
    - raises buffalo
    - militia commando
    - healed several people with his water (or his buffalo, he seems a bit confused)
    - attorney that has never lost case (though apparently hasn't gone to law school)
    - retired a multi-millionaire at 40
    - refused to pay taxes for years
    - was thus forced underground until he reemerged on this board after stealing another citizen's identity (i believe a dead one as he tells it)

    i think i've covered it... am i missing anything?
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    did i say i was not worthy of love? yes sure do whatever floats your boat or gives you comfort. but DO NOT be coming to me and telling me you felt the need to pray for me so you could find comfort. it gives me no comfort, therefore i don't want to know. i don't need to know.
    and just curiously, why would you tell someone you prayed for them anyway?

    because people of religion find comfort in knowing. since 87% of americans are religious; i've got a good chance of helping another human even if only mentally.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    i just finished watching a coverage on the westborough baptist church put out by the BBC right after i posted my last comment... i must say it's ridiculous. and i can clearly see why homosexuals feel hated. it's just weird that i ran into this news coverage after my conversation with you. i would defend a homosexual when it goes that far though, i'll admit to that.

    anyways... i know. i've been told that my beliefs are extremely rare. that's why everybody likes me :D

    they are over here unfortunatenly. are you from the uk? they seem a bit more balanced over here. the westborough baptist church is fred phelp's isn't it? they're the worst of the bunch. also, if you get a chance, watch the documentary 'jesus camp.' it's more than a little disturbing what they do to those kids... they talk about wanting to make all the kids martyrs and claim they're not political (despite a huge part of their camp being about praying to dubya and laying hands on him and other political topics). it's nutty. and then you might understand why i feel the way i do.

    honestly, i don't hate christians... im scared. downright scared. like some of them are scared of islamic fundamentalists. the lady in that documentary says it... "i bet all the seculars are scared after seeing this, and they should be." she also was very proud of the documentary... said it was a very accurate representation of their beliefs. i have a friend who was pentecostal (the denomination featured in there) and she said that is EXACTLY how it is. it's a bit frightening.