R.I.P Saddam Hussein

SPEEDY MCCREADY · December 2006

god bless america........

Collin · December 2006

CorporateWhore wrote:

I don't believe in capital punishment at all and I think it's unrighteous even to take the life of an evil man like Saddam.

I don't think it's ever right to take someone's life as punishment.

I agree with this 100%.

pjalive21 · December 2006

aNiMaL wrote:

No way do I wish that Saddam rests in peace......I hope he rests in the pits of hell for all eternity.

R.I.P. to saddam....what a joke!

Saddam was a bad, bad, bad man. 1,000,000 times worse than our own President Bush. There are no mass graves or torture chambers in or around the White House.

AMEN to this!!!!

it sickens me to see all this sympathy for Saddam and the whole "anti kill Sadaam" and then to lump Bush in the same sentence as this man is repulsive...

R.I.P Saddam??? how about rott in HELL

sponger · December 2006

Jeanie wrote:

This is interesting sponger, got anymore info on it?

Well, the article that I read was in the LA times, and they charge people to view their articles online.

But, the phenomenon is known as the maternal immune hypothesis.

Here's a powerpoint presentation I found on this subject:

http://www.msu.edu/~breedsm/ppt/asposter3.ppt

Here's the presentation in html:

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:arHAU-EetwwJ:www.msu.edu/~breedsm/ppt/asposter3.ppt+

sponger · December 2006

pjalive21 wrote:

AMEN to this!!!!

it sickens me to see all this sympathy for Saddam and the whole "anti kill Sadaam" and then to lump Bush in the same sentence as this man is repulsive...

R.I.P Saddam??? how about rott in HELL

If Bush had any common decency about him, he'd be shaking Saddam's hand and thanking him for the opportunity to invade a foreign country for its oil. Without Saddam's "bad guy" image, Bush could never have pulled it off.

The more you hate Saddam, the more you play into Bush's morbid imperialistic agenda.

Rhinocerous Surprise · December 2006

pjalive21 wrote:

AMEN to this!!!!

it sickens me to see all this sympathy for Saddam and the whole "anti kill Sadaam" and then to lump Bush in the same sentence as this man is repulsive...

R.I.P Saddam??? how about rott in HELL

I don't think it's an "anti kill Saddam" sentiment, so much as it's an "anti-kill" sentiment, to be honest. A sentiment I whole-heartedly believe in.

Skitch Patterson · December 2006

pjalive21 wrote:

AMEN to this!!!!

it sickens me to see all this sympathy for Saddam and the whole "anti kill Sadaam" and then to lump Bush in the same sentence as this man is repulsive...

R.I.P Saddam??? how about rott in HELL

I dont see any saddam sympathy, just a general life sympathy.
Even though i dont agree with the view, and think its been presented by some in a very judgemental view, I can understand the view of against murder/killing in any situation, and i see no problem with it.

Skitch Patterson · December 2006

Songburst wrote:

Bush is worse. He isn't a twisted fuck and he's responsible for the death of thousands. It is worse because Bush is just an idiot whose complete lack of responsibility and poor decision making has cost 3000 American (and significantly more Iraqi) lives in this made-up war. His ineptitude also cost many more lives after Hurricane Katrina. Handling a 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina somewhat respectably in one presidency could have made an average president one of the best ever. However, those events also showed that when a retard is president, it could start a downward spiral where Americans rejoice over the hanging of a dictator who was created by the same people that took him out.

Thats overstating it a bit.
I havent heard of instances of President Bush ordering the murder of thousands of americans.

He may dumb, he may be a retard, he may be greedy and self absorbed, but a comparison to a genocidal dictator is off base.

sponger · December 2006

Skitch Patterson wrote:

Thats overstating it a bit.
I havent heard of instances of President Bush ordering the murder of thousands of americans.

He couldn't if he wanted to. And if I had to guess whether or not that want was there, I'd have to say that it is, given his track record thus far.

What makes Saddam and Bush different is that Saddam took leadership over a society that was already devoid of the checks and balances that american leaders are faced with.

In spite of these checks and balances, Bush has already proven that he has every intention of side-stepping them wherever loopholes in our system permit.

And rather than domesticating mass murder like Saddam did, Bush exported it in the form of war for oil -the only difference being the borders behind which those murders were committed.

And why did Saddam commit genocide and mass murder? Was it because he is a sick, twisted, psychopath. Could it be possible that it was the only way to maintain power and order within the violent and sectarian country that is Iraq?

He gassed the kurds because they were forming alliances with the Iranians. The Iranians were creeping right up on Saddam's borders and threatening the security of his entire nation.

Therefore, he committed mass murder on the basis of national security. Sound familiar?

Jeanie · December 2006

sponger wrote:

Well, the article that I read was in the LA times, and they charge people to view their articles online.

But, the phenomenon is known as the maternal immune hypothesis.

Here's a powerpoint presentation I found on this subject:

http://www.msu.edu/~breedsm/ppt/asposter3.ppt

Here's the presentation in html:

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:arHAU-EetwwJ:www.msu.edu/~breedsm/ppt/asposter3.ppt+

Thanks Sponger. Checking it out now.

Skitch Patterson · December 2006

sponger wrote:

He couldn't if he wanted to. And if I had to guess whether or not that want was there, I'd have to say that it is, given his track record thus far.

What makes Saddam and Bush different is that Saddam took leadership over a society that was already devoid of the checks and balances that american leaders are faced with.

In spite of these checks and balances, Bush has already proven that he has every intention of side-stepping them wherever loopholes in our system permit.

And rather than domesticating mass murder like Saddam did, Bush exported it in the form of war for oil -the only difference being the borders behind which those murders were committed.

And why did Saddam commit genocide and mass murder? Was it because he is a sick, twisted, psychopath. Could it be possible that it was the only way to maintain power and order within the violent and sectarian country that is Iraq?

He gassed the kurds because they were forming alliances with the Iranians. The Iranians were creeping right up on Saddam's borders and threatening the security of his entire nation.

Therefore, he committed mass murder on the basis of national security. Sound familiar?

Im not in any stretch calling a bush a saint, however i dont think its fair to say "worse"

MakingWaves · December 2006

NMyTree wrote:

Okay, good points.

But if you re-read my post you'll notice that I wasn't speaking of just George Bush Jr. specifically, I was speaking of the history of our leaders and it's operative divisions.

Just because Americans aren't getting shot immediately on the spot for speaking out (although quite a few have been beaten during protests and rallies) that doesn't mean that our leaders have not commited very similar attrocities.

Truth is, in the history of our country many have been silenced for many reasons. Just not always " in the direct, shoot them dead on the spot " manner.

The CIA and many American Presidents, politicans and businessmen have been at the root of causing thousands upon thousand of deaths, for the purpose of furthering their agenda and protecting their investments.

In case you haven't noticed, speaking out against this administration, over the last several years, is a risky thing to do.

Good points and I see what you are saying. In the past few years it has been risky, at least for careers of public figures, to speak out against this administration.

I just don't think we are on the same level of some of these people who are truly evil.

MakingWaves · December 2006

Byrnzie wrote:

Firstly, people discussing issues on this board doesn't constitute anyone 'speaking out', to the point that it will have any bearing on those in power.
Secondly, ticking a box once every 4 years and making a choice between two different shades of corporate shit doesn't constitute democracy.

I agree that speaking out on this board doesn't constitute anyone 'speaking out' to the point that it will have any bearing on those in power. But my point was that if you were to speak out in a public forum in Iraq or North Korea, the odds are you would be put in jail if not killed. I am just trying to prove the point that America is nowhere near the same level that some people are saying.

And ticking a box once every 4 years whether you think the choices are shit or not does in fact constitute democracy. Having that choice is the root of democracy.

SPEEDY MCCREADY · December 2006

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

You people are so creepy! You'll hate anyone the idiot box tells you you should. Burn in hell and all that crap is disgusting. There is no hell, morons. You're telling me you hate Saddam for doing the same shit you're on here cheering about?? Take a long, hard look in the mirror.

i agree....

there are definitely some creepy morons on this board.........

MakingWaves · December 2006

NMyTree wrote:

Look at the people being thrown out of rallies because they wore a t-shirt that was not in support of Bush and his administration. You know what this kind of crap leads to? When tolerated and accepted by the masses, it leads to Saddam-like rule.

Do you honestly think this could lead to America falling under Saddam-like rule? I understand the feelings of hatred towards this administration by some people, but that is a little over the top for me.

NMyTree · December 2006

pjalive21 wrote:

AMEN to this!!!!

it sickens me to see all this sympathy for Saddam and the whole "anti kill Sadaam" and then to lump Bush in the same sentence as this man is repulsive...

R.I.P Saddam??? how about rott in HELL

If see "sympathy for Saddam" , then you need glasses. Or visit your eye doctor ( or local reading comprehension center) to correct your lens or reading skills.

Nothingman54 · December 2006

Here is the whole thing if you want to watch it.

http://ebaumsworld.com/2006/12/saddam-full-execution.html

DCGARDEN · December 2006

There was a man who lived in a country a few years ago. This man was not respectful to the current government and had no problems speaking his mind. The president of this government caught wind of this man's opinions and ordered he and his 5 year old son, to be brought to the presidential palace. The man was tied up, and forced to watch, as the president ordered his henchmen to tie the boy's arms and have a machine on either side of him pull completely untill the arms were yanked out of the socket.
The man and his mutilated child were sent home, and the man never spoke out again publicly.

The president who ordered the torture of the 5 year old was Sadamm Hussein.

For whatever your issues are with Bush, do not lower your intelligence to comparing him to someone like this.

MakingWaves · December 2006

DCGARDEN wrote:

There was a man who lived in a country a few years ago. This man was not respectful to the current government and had no problems speaking his mind. The president of this government caught wind of this man's opinions and ordered he and his 5 year old son, to be brought to the presidential palace. The man was tied up, and forced to watch, as the president ordered his henchmen to tie the boy's arms and have a machine on either side of him pull completely untill the arms were yanked out of the socket.
The man and his mutilated child were sent home, and the man never spoke out again publicly.

The president who ordered the torture of the 5 year old was Sadamm Hussein.

For whatever your issues are with Bush, do not lower your intelligence to comparing him to someone like this.

Very well said. This should end this talk of comparing Bush to Sadamm Hussein. Please.

MrBrian · December 2006

and bush ordered the destruction of a country,dropping of bombs, many of which landing on kids and other innocents. how is that any different? are these american crimes less because it was done from a distance? Bombs and WMDs landing on homes and people.

Yes, america and bush, nothing like saddam. You see saddam has now paid for his crimes, Bush will never. That's the only difference.

R.I.P Saddam Hussein

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