Why is Hillary still here?

ucsbledbetter
ucsbledbetter Posts: 173
edited April 2008 in A Moving Train
Seriously, she has to take either the popular vote or the delegates to look good at the convention and she will not have either one!
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Because she will not give up until she cheats her way to the number 1 spot.
  • South of Seattle
    South of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    Because Cockroaches don't die :)
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    She reminds me of Nurse Ratched from 'One flew over the cuckoos nest'. Every ounce of her personality stinks.
  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    because she paid for those Super Delegates, fair and square
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  • rasty10
    rasty10 Posts: 68
    Still better than Obama...it's amazing to see how many people are falling prey to his apparently amazing campaign strategy that's making everyone believe he is something different, a "fresh face." What exactly does that mean anyway?? That's really all that I hear about him. My favorite is how he's quick to point out that political attacks are a distraction to the real issues, and of course everyone is amazed that he's so much more enlightened than all the other politicians, whose major fault is that they're running on an ancient, and redundant, political straegy. I'm pretty sure he will still collect taxes, spend alot of money on defense, and conduct thousands of political meetings..maybe what he means is that he'll wear jeans and a Hawaiian shirt for 4 years. I have to admit it's a great strategy that will most likely win him the nomination, but not the election...and then we'll be stuck with 4 more years of Republicans. I'm not against Obama for this reason, but a campaign strategy will certainly not get my vote!!
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  • butterfly1
    butterfly1 Posts: 372
    Because Bill and the Dems promised her the presidency in the 90s so she wouldn't bail and bring down the Clinton white house. Now she wants payback dammit!! if it takes till 2012 or 2016 so be it.
  • IAmMyself
    IAmMyself Posts: 671
    All I know is the Republicans are eating this up, as long as they keep battling it out the more likely we will have another 4 years of the same old crap!
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  • DixieN
    DixieN Posts: 351
    Well, jeez. Old Hill's winning in PA right now. She should definitely pack it in. On the night before she took TX, y'all were saying she should just damn well quit. After all, if she didn't quit, she might win. How inconsiderate of her, the witch! That makes things tough for our hero, Obama. It would make his life ever so much easier to run unopposed. Good Lord! Obama spent a ton of money in PA reassuring people that in fact he never meant to say they were bitter and clinging to guns and religion, which sounds just a bit classist and bigoted. Hillary should have said that! He deserves to have PA in his back pocket, so that for the second time in her life Michelle can be proud of this country. For Hillary to just get PA for a 1/3 the price just doesn't seem right. I mean, a deal's one thing, but a bargain like that amounts to stealing. Should PA be a blue light special for Hillary's Clinton's thick-ankled taking?? Not only is the old bag shrill and ambitious and scheming, she's a bargain shopper to boot--which makes her trendy in today's economy. Trendy! Now there's a good epithet for you. 60-year-old women shouldn't be trendy. Now she's trying to steal not only PA, but trendiness away from Obama! People stand up!!!

    You guys are funny. Do you guys tell the team that's winning the basketball game to give it up? I think you might.
  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    i love to see people here who are big on Freedom of Speech and other freedoms telling someone what to do. I guess Freedom is only allowed if your winning.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    DixieN wrote:
    You guys are funny. Do you guys tell the team that's winning the basketball game to give it up? I think you might.

    No, but if they're getting beat bad enough I leave, which is what the supers should do.

    I don't care if Hillary stays in until the end. My problem is her going super negative on the candidate that has greater that 85% chance of being the nominee. Stay in, run a fair campaign, and when it's clear you cannot win---drop out.
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    On the night before she took TX, y'all were saying she should just damn well quit.

    You realize Obama actually won more delegates in Texas than Hillary did, don't you?
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
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  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    ledvedderman wrote:
    No, but if they're getting beat bad enough I leave, which is what the supers should do.

    I don't care if Hillary stays in until the end. My problem is her going super negative on the candidate that has greater that 85% chance of being the nominee. Stay in, run a fair campaign, and when it's clear you cannot win---drop out.

    Obama has just been as dirty but the news never says anything abotu this as soon as he makes a speech. i am not blaming Obama on this by the way. i have never understood why people always say something is negative when it fcat it is just showing the "so-called" differences between the two people.
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  • LaterDays
    LaterDays Posts: 142
    DixieN wrote:
    You guys are funny. Do you guys tell the team that's winning the basketball game to give it up? I think you might.

    A more apt sports analogy: It's a Best-of-7 series, and she lost the first four games... Now she's demanding the last 3 still be played, even though the winner has already been decided.

    Look at the math. Seriously, just look at it. She cannot overtake him in pledged delegates, since February he's added dozens and dozens of superdelegates to her handful ( ), and she's gotta absolutely destroy him in the most of the remaining contests just to catch him in the popular vote. And even if that happened, which it won't, the party will still give it to him b/c she's the most polarizing, hated democratic politician alive. (My parents, for instance, are both affluent, religious conservatives. My dad doesn't like McCain and won't ever vote for a liberal... so he's not going to vote. "Unless," he says, "Hillary wins. Then I'll *have* to vote for McCain." Mom likes Obama to McCain, but she too won't vote unless Hillary runs... in which case she'll be pulling hard for McCain. Even suggested, amusingly, that she would consider campaigning for him).
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  • LaterDays
    LaterDays Posts: 142
    Thecure wrote:
    i love to see people here who are big on Freedom of Speech and other freedoms telling someone what to do. I guess Freedom is only allowed if your winning.

    No one anywhere is challenging her legal right to say what she wants. What it boils down to is this: Democrats want to win in November, and we see her continuous campaigning despite an mathematical and practical inability to win as hurting our chances.

    I'm a St. Louis Cardinals fan, and I love Albert Pujols. But if Pujols hitting and fielding started to suck, and a young rookie comes off the bench and bats .400 with 45 homeruns in Pujols' place, I'd expect Albert to step aside. It's about the team, not about the player. And that's all anyone here is saying: Hillary, step aside for the good of the team. You had your chance, you were the given the assumed starting position, and you lost it due to poor performance. The longer she stays in, the harder it is for the other player to focus on winning the game.

    It has nothing to do w/ the First Amendment, which I seriously doubt you know shit about anyway.
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  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    LaterDays wrote:
    A more apt sports analogy: It's a Best-of-7 series, and she lost the first four games... Now she's demanding the last 3 still be played, even though the winner has already been decided.

    Problem with that analogy is that game 4 isn't finished yet.... neither candidate has enough delegates to win the nomination so the super delegates hold all the power and can vote any which way they choose. Blame the party for setting up their rules that way, but don't blame the candidates for wanting to see it out to the finish.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    LaterDays wrote:
    I'm a St. Louis Cardinals fan, and I love Albert Pujols.

    Fuck yeah you do. Go Redbirds!
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  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Thecure wrote:
    Obama has just been as dirty but the news never says anything abotu this as soon as he makes a speech. i am not blaming Obama on this by the way. i have never understood why people always say something is negative when it fcat it is just showing the "so-called" differences between the two people.

    i'm afraid i have to disagree. Obama has been nowhere near as dirty, and in the instances where he is accused of similar tactics, he has usually been defending himself. He has, at times, been drug, kicking and screaming into the trenches. He hasn't willingly jumped there. Its really hard to stay on the high ground when your opponet refuses to play there. He has to fight back or suffer the same fate as John Kerry who allowed himself to be swiftboated. In order to win he has to speak the same language. Running a clean campaign against the clinton's is kind of like trying to speak spanish to someone who clearly only speaks french. i'd say, considering the circumstances, and considering the gutter tactics consistently employed by the clinton's, he has maintained the high ground more often than not.
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  • LaterDays
    LaterDays Posts: 142
    Thecure wrote:
    Obama has just been as dirty but the news never says anything abotu this as soon as he makes a speech. i am not blaming Obama on this by the way. i have never understood why people always say something is negative when it fcat it is just showing the "so-called" differences between the two people.

    How has he been "dirty"? He only responds to Clinton's attacks on him, and when given the opportunity to attack her for some inconsequential non-issue, he always gives her a pass. He'll call her out on it if she's being full of shit or if she's trying to spin his words into something he clearly didn't mean, but he never plays offense w/ it... just defense. He has been overwhelmingly, impressively restrained. And I was a Hillary supporter until I saw his race speech (in its entirety; the little snippets you see on the news don't do it any sort of justice).
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    because the media builds people up and than crushes them... SAME WITH OBAMA AND MCCAIN


    remember BOB DOLE?


    lol the american public will vote for whoever the media tells them to vote for...


    pathetic
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    LaterDays wrote:
    How has he been "dirty"? He only responds to Clinton's attacks on him, and when given the opportunity to attack her for some inconsequential non-issue, he always gives her a pass. He'll call her out on it if she's being full of shit or if she's trying to spin his words into something he clearly didn't mean, but he never plays offense w/ it... just defense. He has been overwhelmingly, impressively restrained. And I was a Hillary supporter until I saw his race speech (in its entirety; the little snippets you see on the news don't do it any sort of justice).


    you are ridiculous.. lol

    read your post...

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