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Why is Hillary still here?
ucsbledbetter
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Seriously, she has to take either the popular vote or the delegates to look good at the convention and she will not have either one!
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INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
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INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
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07-Katowice
08-NYC I/II, Hartford, Mansfield I/II
You guys are funny. Do you guys tell the team that's winning the basketball game to give it up? I think you might.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
No, but if they're getting beat bad enough I leave, which is what the supers should do.
I don't care if Hillary stays in until the end. My problem is her going super negative on the candidate that has greater that 85% chance of being the nominee. Stay in, run a fair campaign, and when it's clear you cannot win---drop out.
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You realize Obama actually won more delegates in Texas than Hillary did, don't you?
for the least they could possibly do
Obama has just been as dirty but the news never says anything abotu this as soon as he makes a speech. i am not blaming Obama on this by the way. i have never understood why people always say something is negative when it fcat it is just showing the "so-called" differences between the two people.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
A more apt sports analogy: It's a Best-of-7 series, and she lost the first four games... Now she's demanding the last 3 still be played, even though the winner has already been decided.
Look at the math. Seriously, just look at it. She cannot overtake him in pledged delegates, since February he's added dozens and dozens of superdelegates to her handful ( ), and she's gotta absolutely destroy him in the most of the remaining contests just to catch him in the popular vote. And even if that happened, which it won't, the party will still give it to him b/c she's the most polarizing, hated democratic politician alive. (My parents, for instance, are both affluent, religious conservatives. My dad doesn't like McCain and won't ever vote for a liberal... so he's not going to vote. "Unless," he says, "Hillary wins. Then I'll *have* to vote for McCain." Mom likes Obama to McCain, but she too won't vote unless Hillary runs... in which case she'll be pulling hard for McCain. Even suggested, amusingly, that she would consider campaigning for him).
No one anywhere is challenging her legal right to say what she wants. What it boils down to is this: Democrats want to win in November, and we see her continuous campaigning despite an mathematical and practical inability to win as hurting our chances.
I'm a St. Louis Cardinals fan, and I love Albert Pujols. But if Pujols hitting and fielding started to suck, and a young rookie comes off the bench and bats .400 with 45 homeruns in Pujols' place, I'd expect Albert to step aside. It's about the team, not about the player. And that's all anyone here is saying: Hillary, step aside for the good of the team. You had your chance, you were the given the assumed starting position, and you lost it due to poor performance. The longer she stays in, the harder it is for the other player to focus on winning the game.
It has nothing to do w/ the First Amendment, which I seriously doubt you know shit about anyway.
Problem with that analogy is that game 4 isn't finished yet.... neither candidate has enough delegates to win the nomination so the super delegates hold all the power and can vote any which way they choose. Blame the party for setting up their rules that way, but don't blame the candidates for wanting to see it out to the finish.
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i'm afraid i have to disagree. Obama has been nowhere near as dirty, and in the instances where he is accused of similar tactics, he has usually been defending himself. He has, at times, been drug, kicking and screaming into the trenches. He hasn't willingly jumped there. Its really hard to stay on the high ground when your opponet refuses to play there. He has to fight back or suffer the same fate as John Kerry who allowed himself to be swiftboated. In order to win he has to speak the same language. Running a clean campaign against the clinton's is kind of like trying to speak spanish to someone who clearly only speaks french. i'd say, considering the circumstances, and considering the gutter tactics consistently employed by the clinton's, he has maintained the high ground more often than not.
How has he been "dirty"? He only responds to Clinton's attacks on him, and when given the opportunity to attack her for some inconsequential non-issue, he always gives her a pass. He'll call her out on it if she's being full of shit or if she's trying to spin his words into something he clearly didn't mean, but he never plays offense w/ it... just defense. He has been overwhelmingly, impressively restrained. And I was a Hillary supporter until I saw his race speech (in its entirety; the little snippets you see on the news don't do it any sort of justice).
remember BOB DOLE?
lol the american public will vote for whoever the media tells them to vote for...
pathetic
you are ridiculous.. lol
read your post...
Honestly though, do you see *any* chance that the superdelegates will hand it to Clinton despite her losing the pledged votes, the number of states, and most likely the popular vote? The only one she *can* win is the last, and no one is going to give her the nomination for that alone. It's just flat-out not going to happen. If the fourth game hasn't been played, then there are 20 seconds left and she's down by 30 points. It's insurmountable. Her campaign is in the red, his is pulling in tens of millions every month. He leads her by ten points in the national polls.
She has become that stubborn prima dona sports star who doesn't care if the team loses, she just wants personal glory. It makes me wonder if she ever did honestly care about the party or the country... or if she's always had such a selfish agenda.
Read it, stand by it. What am I missing?
wow your anger in that last part was overwheming. do you believe that what Hillary is doing maybe good for Obama and the Democrats. he has to be prepared for what he is going to get from McCain and teh Rep and this is helping preparing him for that. secondly, does ayone here believe that if Hillary never said those things Obama than McCain would have never thought about it. Come On. I think that the people should decide who they want to be the leader. so many people here get saying that they hate how we are forced to vote for teh same shit over and over again but now they are saying you knwo what let's just give it to this person and who cares abotu the votes.
I don't think Hillary will Win but i say let her do what she wants and if people are going to not vote for Obama than maybe he was not the person they really wanted.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
youre missing facts.
Right, at this point, she's just ruining the Democrats chance to beat the Republican party. I think she's let her own ambition take over and she's thrown everyone else under the bus! It's bad.
Edit: I hate her idea that since she's won some of these more traditional democratic races (read: white) that she's more electable. I believe anyone that voted for her in a primary would vote for Obama in the general. I saw an article referenced here saying something like 28% of Hillary supporters would go to McCain, I just cannot fathom that.
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Cold War Part Deux. What I really dislike about Mrs. Clinton is that she isn't that much different than any current senior official leading this country. She has the exact same agenda, although she denies it, as the current administration. And by that I mean that lack of change that will come about in this country if she is elected President.
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Cmon Gauchos. You gotta win to get in. No one likes a quitter in this country.
Most of those people who turned on the Clintons probably would not even have jobs in government but for the Clintons. They need to burn the house down and build it over again.