was 9/11 an inside job?
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jlew24asu wrote:but dude. you know nothing about history. dont you see how evil america has been in the past. this fact alone proves they are behind 9/11. wake up man, stop watching fox news.
You're right actually. In the past 5 mins i have changed my mind and i now am of the opinion that every major catastrophe in the history of man kind has been a set up, and has probably involved the US government. Im away to investigate further, and lose myself in a world of complete paranoia.
In case you cant tell im being sarcastic.
By the way, im not criticising people for asking questions, its good that people do so.People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.0 -
jlew24asu wrote:but dude. you know nothing about history. dont you see how evil america has been in the past. this fact alone proves they are behind 9/11. wake up man, stop watching fox news.
Do you have an idea?
Not just about 9/11. About anything, anything at all.
Just some shred of evidence you can share that you are your own.
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gue_barium wrote:Do you have an idea?
Not just about 9/11. About anything, anything at all.
Just some shred of evidence you can share that you are your own.
care to explain what the fuck you are talking about0 -
stu gee wrote:You're right actually. In the past 5 mins i have changed my mind and i now am of the opinion that every major catastrophe in the history of man kind has been a set up, and has probably involved the US government. Im away to investigate further, and lose myself in a world of complete paranoia.
In case you cant tell im being sarcastic.
By the way, im not criticising people for asking questions, its good that people do so.I know, this board has opened my eyes to the REAL truth of the world. glad you can now see the light.
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jlew24asu wrote:care to explain what the fuck you are talking about
that's a good start.
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jlew24asu wrote:
I know, this board has opened my eyes to the REAL truth of the world. glad you can now see the light.
And then the quick relapse.
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gue_barium wrote:And then the quick relapse.
good job joining this thread 10 pages deep. me and stu are just fucking around. you honestly bring nothing to the table when you debate. most of the time you reply to yourself cuz you are the only one that can figure out your babbling.
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jlew24asu wrote:good job joining this thread 10 pages deep. me and stu are just fucking around. you honestly bring nothing to the table when you debate. most of the time you reply to yourself cuz you are the only one that can figure out your babbling.
if and when you want to debate something, let me know
Ahem.
Thanks for the chuckles.
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gue_barium wrote:Ahem.
Thanks for the chuckles.......
thats a good start.....
And then the quick relapse.
yea like I said....0 -
jlew24asu wrote:yea like I said....
I'm not sure what you're after here.
hmmm.
Is this a sexual orientation issue?
Maybe it is for me, because, quite honestly, I hadn't stopped to consider your gender. I guess, in my mind, you were something of a peach-fuzzed late teens early 20's sort of guy, or a 13 year old girl.
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gue_barium wrote:I'm not sure what you're after here.
hmmm.
Is this a sexual orientation issue?
Maybe it is for me, because, quite honestly, I hadn't stopped to consider your gender. I guess, in my mind, you were something of a peach-fuzzed late teens early 20's sort of guy, or a 13 year old girl.
nope im 27 clearly seen from my myspace page in my signature. I think even a 13 year old could have figured that one out.
well done, chief. your intelligence shines bright as always.0 -
jlew24asu wrote:
stop mentioning me in all your posts. and stop following me around.
Don't follow my posts then i won't have to comment on the stupidity that come out of your mouth sometimes.Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.0 -
spiral out wrote:Don't follow my posts then i won't have to comment on the stupidity that come out of your mouth sometimes.
christ, now you are practically replying word for word with what I say....amazing0 -
stu gee wrote:Even if this post isnt exclusively for me...
Im not swallowing anything, that is actually my point.
You dont know anything about my knowledge of history, or how much time i have spent studying it. Could it not just be that i think differently from you? Im not trying to be rude but this seems impossible for you to comprehend.
Some people, like spiral out here, seem to have real problems accepting that some people dont always see things the same way as they do. I am not criticising you or your theories, im just saying that the evidence put forward to support them does not convince me personally. Im not sure what part of that is complicated.
Jesus christ i think ive posted basically the same reply about 5 times!!
Your quite right this post wasn't for you at all.
I don't know anything of your knowledge of history, as you didn't give anything away so can't comment.
My post was aimed squarely at jlew who i know for a fact doesn't have much knowledge as he's always dismissing intresting facts and books as rubbish and conspiricy threories.Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
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spiral out wrote:Your quite right this post wasn't for you at all.
I don't know anything of your knowledge of history, as you didn't give anything away so can't comment.
My post was aimed squarely at jlew who i know for a fact doesn't have much knowledge as he's always dismissing intresting facts and books as rubbish and conspiricy threories.
guess what dude. you dont know shit about me. and guess what..
whatreallyhappened.com is rubbish. but nice try.
so like stu was saying....since I dismiss the bullshit you post means I dont know anything about history? wow. stu nailed your ass.0 -
spiral out wrote:Your quite right this post wasn't for you at all.
I don't know anything of your knowledge of history, as you didn't give anything away so can't comment.
My post was aimed squarely at jlew who i know for a fact doesn't have much knowledge as he's always dismissing intresting facts and books as rubbish and conspiricy threories.
I know you quoted jlew but because you advised me earlier to go and read american history, i just took it that you regarded me as one of the people who had to go and learn more before i made an informed choice.People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.0 -
DriftingByTheStorm wrote:UNEXPLAINABLE QUESTIONS THAT POINT TO A CONSPIRACY OF SOME SORT:
1. Moussad agents seen all over New York jumping and shouting & filming themselves after the towers came down ... THIS IS FACT ... they even went on TV in Europe to talk about it ... 60 Minutes did a piece on the moving agency that they worked for ... which was a sham ... and was closed down real quick after 911 ... (watch proof of their existence and some theory here: Open Complicity)
2. SOMEONE SHORTED A WHOLE BUNCH OF AIRLINE STOCK ... hundreds of times the average (measured several ways) just days before 911 ... but then, mysteriously NEVER CASHED IN THEIR OPTIONS ... again Open Complicity
3. Why did the Secrete Service NOT PULL BUSH OUT OF THE CLASS ROOM !?! How did they KNOW he was not in danger, and why did they not at least pretend ... remember ... even after the SECOND plane hit, he STILL SAT THERE ... once more Open Complicity
4. Why did Bush and Cheney REFUSE TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH before the 911 Comission? Anyone? "National Security" takes priority over a personal guarantee of simply telling the truth? THEY WOULD NOT GO UNDER OATH, ON THE RECORD, OR WITH ANY DOCUMENTATION OF THEIR "QUESTIONING" OR WITNESSES OF ANY KIND!!!
5. How did we learn about ANY of this stuff so easily and yet fail to arrest these known terrorists? New York Times Article on Zacarias Moussaoui Trial listing countless pieces of "evidence" which suggest the US had PLENTY OF KNOWLEDGE what was going on ???
6. Money transfered to Mohammed Atta by Pakistani ISI ... EXPLAIN THIS PLEASE !?! ISI and The Wire Transfers of 9/11 READ THIS WHOLE THING IF YOU CAN! If there is nothing to cover up, WHY ARE THEY COVERING IT UP !?!
7. Who killed John O'Neill?
PBS Video About It
8. Why do we have video of EVERY ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL saying things like "No ONE, that I KNOW, IN THE GOVERNMENT had ANY knowledege that they would use PLANES as MISSLES in this country" ... and yet then months later we find out THE GOVERNMENT WAS CONDUCTING THEIR VERY OWN REAL TIME LIVE "WAR GAME" USING AIRPLANES CRASHING IN TO THE PENTAGON AND THE TWIN TOWERS AT THE EXACT SAME FUCKING TIME ON THE EXACT SAME GODDAMN DAY!!?!?! open up your fucking brain, people ... Now go watch some of the footage on the London Bombings of 2005 ... THE EXACT SAME THING ... GOVERNMENT DRILL INVOLVING SAME EVENT (BOMB) AT THE SAME PLACE (EXACT SAME TUBE STATIONS) AT THE EXACT SAME FUCKING TIME ... this is a standard trick at this point to divert, confuse, and cover up! Zeitgeist The Move: WATCH AT EXACTLY 40 MINUTE MARK EVERY ONE IN THE ADMINISTRATION TELLING LIES LIES LIES ... and yet you BELIEVE BELIEVE BELIEVE.
! ! !
9. The UBL Tape FAKE: Why does he look so different and why is it the ONLY piece of evidence we have of OSAMA !?!
Is it Fake? You want pretty pictures, huh? THat's a FAT NOSE, skinny arab boy! ... NEW HERE: Some VERY INTERESTING discrepancies!
10. The Planes, GUNS ON THE PLANES, And More Fishy Bullshit: Why were the planes widely reported as being between 50 & 70 percent EMPTY !?! ... why is it so hard to get an accurate count of those on board? Was there a gun on the plane? How did a gun get on the plane? Why would the FAA write a report about it. Then change (read: CENSOR) the draft report and claim it was an accident? YOU DON'T REPORT SOMEONE WAS SHOT IF THEY WERE STABBED!
11. Odigo - israeli firm in NYC - 2 employees warned of attack 2 hours prior to event !?!
Originaly Reported by NEWSBYTES, A WASHINGTON POST COMPANY! ODIGO's CEO SAYS THIS IS TRUE!
12. UBL himself DENIES INVOLVEMENT and IMPLICATES THE US GOVERNMENT. IF HE DID IT, and HE ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT, WHY WOULD HE THEN DENY IT !?!
"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle."
"The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the U.S. system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive. "
"Then there are intelligence agencies in the U.S., which require billions of dollars worth of funds from the Congress and the government every year. This [funding issue] was not a big problem till the existence of the former Soviet Union but after that the budget of these agencies has been in danger. They needed an enemy. "
"What is this? Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks."
"The Western media is unleashing such a baseless propaganda, which makes us surprise but it reflects on what is in their hearts and gradually they themselves become captive of this propaganda. They become afraid of it and begin to cause harm to themselves. Terror is the most dreaded weapon in modern age and the Western media is mercilessly using it against its own people. It can add fear and helplessness in the psyche of the people of Europe and the United States. It means that what the enemies of the United States cannot do, its media is doing that. You can understand as to what will be the performance of the nation in a war, which suffers from fear and helplessness."
WOW OSAMA ... YOU SOUND LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ! !! !
FULL INTERVIEW, YOU SHOULD READ THIS. UBL MAKES SENSE: Usama bin Laden Says the Al-Qa'idah Group
had Nothing to Do with the 11 September Attacks
- Interview published in newspaper Ummat
Karachi, 9-28-2001
Well well, my little sheep.
How hard it is for you to come up with any answers.
Surely these are all EASILY diffused, no?
I call specific attention to POINTS #9 and #12 ...
#9 - the ONLY evidence linking Usama Bin Laden, and it SURE looks like it IS NOT HIM ...
#12 - REFUTATION OF RESPONSIBILITY by Usama Bin Laden HIMSELF, along with blaming the US government.
Why WHY WHY would he DENY he did it THEN admit to it on a VHS tape left to be "found" in a random house in a random town in the middle of the dessert?
HMM.
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DriftingByTheStorm wrote:Well well, my little sheep.
How hard it is for you to come up with any answers.
Surely these are all EASILY diffused, no?
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o boy. we have been over this. try a little less extreme approach to your full page of fonto-sized-can it be more colorful-pile of shit.
I tried to respond to that in your thread and it took my 45 mins to get through half of it!
calm the fuck down and pick one and lets start from there....k?0 -
jlew24asu wrote:o boy. we have been over this. try a little less extreme approach to your full page of fonto-sized-can it be more colorful-pile of shit.
I tried to respond to that in your thread and it took my 45 mins to get through half of it!
calm the fuck down and pick one and lets start from there....k?
how about #'s 9 & 12 to start.
Just a note, i never made it through college and i compiled that "colorful-pile of shit" ... with a brain your size, you should be able to READ IT just fine.
Get the fuck over it and learn to read. Bold letters and the color red aren't the hardest things in the world to understand. It's TWO COLORS, and some bold. You are either illiterate or just lazy as hell.
If you people are too lazy to even read what is potentialy truth, then how the fuck will you ever be free!?!If I was to smile and I held out my hand
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DriftingByTheStorm wrote:how about #'s 9 & 12 to start.
Just a note, i never made it through college and i compiled that "colorful-pile of shit" ... with a brain your size, you should be able to READ IT just fine.
Get the fuck over it and learn to read. Bold letters and the color red aren't the hardest things in the world to understand. It's TWO COLORS, and some bold. You are either illiterate or just lazy as hell.
If you people are too lazy to even read what is potentialy truth, then how the fuck will you ever be free!?!
I am smart enough to read the entire thing. and guess what, I went to college too YAY for us. I just happen to have better things to do with my time then comb through all your bullshit.
9 & 12 is a good start. I'll get to it tomorrow0
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