Wow!
I think you fail to grasp just HOW serious the implications of government COMPLICITY in 911 are. You also fail to see the deep interconnected web that exists between government, the media, and big business. They ALL COMPRISE THE 'ESTABLISHMENT' ... NO ... read NO establishment insider (ANY ONE IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA) ... NONE OF THEM will go up against the establishment ...
Bill Maher, Chris Mattheis ... they would ALL HAVE THEIR SHOWS CANCELLED IMMEDIATELY ... they would be ridiculed by EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY FOX NEWS as "CRAZY AND TRAITORS" ... they'd probably be brought up on charges of insiting disorder or some bullshit, to boot. Needless to say, their lives would be over ...
911 is SO "LOONY" that you could not possibly suggest it as a member of the media yourself, without fear of immediate & severe reprisal by all.
If you still fail to understand why the mainstream media isn't ever going to report on it ... ask yourself this ... WHEN is the media going to start reporting peak oil ... should the media be doing something to get americans thinking about their NONEXISTENT OIL FUTURE?
No ... they are PRAYING TO GOD bush can "Get the Job Done" so that we can suck up the rest of the oil in the world in perfect ignorance of the fact that it's a deadend street ... go download "The End Of Suburbia" and "The Oil Factor: Behind The War On Terror" ... watch the later, and tell me you still do not think that the ENTIRE SCOPE OF OUR FOREIGN POLICY IS BASED ON OIL SECURITY!
So, if you believe that 9/11 was an inside job, then you must also believe that EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE MEDIA is in on it too. this is quite a conspiracy. could someone please make it perfectly clear to me how the government would benefit from a disaster such as this?
conspiracies are easy to get caught up in because everyone needs to blame someone but doesnt quite know who to blame. i'm willing to listen to CTists who do their research. i try to do mine:
This is a silly notion to say the least. I disagree greatly w/ the current administration and virtually everything they stand for but, it would be IMPOSSIBLE, read that word carefully because I mean it...IMPOSSIBLE to pull off an inside job of such a magnitude. Somebody other than conspiracy theorists would share your opinion. The Bill Mahers of the world would expose such a thing the minute they found out about it. Suggesting 9/11 was an inside job is pretty much suggesting every single member of the media (cable news, bloggers etc) that have inside information like Tim Russert, Chris Matthews etc are playing along. That is again...IMPOSSIBLE.
its simple. logical responses like this that make my job easy here on the moving train.
there is also one very simple law of human nature that has never been broken if these 9/11 conspiracies do exist.....
someone has TOO much to gain by coming forward, yet no one has done it.......im just sayin
Wow!
I think you fail to grasp just HOW serious the implications of government COMPLICITY in 911 are. You also fail to see the deep interconnected web that exists between government, the media, and big business. They ALL COMPRISE THE 'ESTABLISHMENT' ... NO ... read NO establishment insider (ANY ONE IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA) ... NONE OF THEM will go up against the establishment ...
Bill Maher, Chris Mattheis ... they would ALL HAVE THEIR SHOWS CANCELLED IMMEDIATELY ... they would be ridiculed by EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY FOX NEWS as "CRAZY AND TRAITORS" ... they'd probably be brought up on charges of insiting disorder or some bullshit, to boot. Needless to say, their lives would be over ...
911 is SO "LOONY" that you could not possibly suggest it as a member of the media yourself, without fear of immediate & severe reprisal by all.
If you still fail to understand why the mainstream media isn't ever going to report on it ... ask yourself this ... WHEN is the media going to start reporting peak oil ... should the media be doing something to get americans thinking about their NONEXISTENT OIL FUTURE?
No ... they are PRAYING TO GOD bush can "Get the Job Done" so that we can suck up the rest of the oil in the world in perfect ignorance of the fact that it's a deadend street ... go download "The End Of Suburbia" and "The Oil Factor: Behind The War On Terror" ... watch the later, and tell me you still do not think that the ENTIRE SCOPE OF OUR FOREIGN POLICY IS BASED ON OIL SECURITY!
Everything is just as it seems. Nothing has a price tag. There is no such thing as coercion or fear. Maybe 180 deg out of phase I suppose.
The fact remains the middle east has what America needs. Liquid life. The very essence of life itself. Ironically enough, it was all once alive billions of years ago.
It will all have to be imported one day soon, as America has plum run out of it.
Watch what people do in life and death situations to survive, and learn from it, because that is as real as everything gets.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
WHAT, exactly, does THE MEDIA stand TOGAIN by covering this story?
The government supports their interests by continualy loosening ownership laws, ingnoring huge mergers which should be envoking anti-trust action ... these "MEDIA" corporations are actually giant multinational conglomerates that FEED ON OIL like no ones business ... in a very real sense, the current administration is actually WAGING WAR FOR THEM ... securing the oil they so badly need.
Now ... why ON EARTH would ANYONE who is aware of any of this ... why would they even consider "blowing the whistle" ...
and AGAIN...
WHAT IF THEY DID?!?!
The consequences are SO SO SO SO SO SERIOUS that you simply CAN NOT bring it up.
Who is going to sign off on the story that gets AN ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION CONVICTED OF TREASON, INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIMES and sentenced to life in prison or death?
Seriously.
(well, actually, WHOMEVER became the next president would have their arm twisted to grant PARDONS FOR ALL) ...
but can you simply not see that given the confines of "reality" , bringing 911 to the center of public attention is a political IMPOSSIBILITY ... the security of america would be in IMMEDIATE JEOPARDY, we'd face reprisal from other nations, and we would LOSE EVERY SINGLE OUNCE OF CREDIBILITY that we ever even thought we had.
Why is it so impossible to understand that their IS A "WORLD ORDER" and that most people who even have a modicum of power are intensely aware of that power structure, and would never do anything to endanger it... regardless of how important "truth" is ...
and BESIDES ... like you said, there is no "proof" ...
...although there are countless discrepancies of SERIOUS nature and a HUGE MOTIVE, formulated over a DECADE ...
between the 1992 Defense Planning Guide, and then the PNAC: Rebuilding America's Defenses -- remember "without a NEW PEARL HARBOR" ... ? ... and then again with the 2002 National Security Strategy ... ALL of which STATE THIS AGENDA, PLAIN AS DAY ...
Here are two relevant quotes ...
The first is from the 1992 Defense Planning Guide (which was coauthored by DICK Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz, who were then the Secretary of Defense & Senior Pentagon Policy Analyst - respectively) ...
"The world order is ultimately backed by the U.S" ... "[The U.S] would show the leadership necessary to establish and protect a new order that holds the promise of convincing potential competitors that they need not aspire to a greater role or pursue a more aggressive posture to protect their legitimate interests. Second, in the non-defense areas, we must discourage them [advanced industrial nations] from challenging our leadership or seeking to overturn the established political and economic order. Finally, we must maintain the mechanisms for deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role."
Hmm?
Sounds like what we got to do because of "Iraq".
Now,
From PNAC: REBUILDING AMERICAS DEFENSES:
(look at the authors. EVERYONE in the first bush administration. ALL OF THEM)
"Adversaries like Iran, Iraq and North Korea are rushing to develop ballistic missles and nuclear weapons as a deterrent to American intervention in regions they seek to dominate."
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT WE ARE "INTERVENING" in the affairs of other nations when their best interests INTERFERE WITH OURS!
"OVer the long-term, Iran may well prove as large a threat to U.S. interests in the Gulf as Iraq has. And even should U.S.-Iranian relations improve, retaining forward-based forces in the region would still be an essential element in U.S. security strategy given the longstanding American interests in the region.
So, what interest do we have in the gulf? Look. THEY SAID IT. "A LARGE THREAT TO US INTERESTS IN THE GULF" ...
THEY WANT THEIR FUCKING OIL ... HELL OR HIGHWATER ... they chose hell ...
Is it so hard to believe that AT THE VERY LEAST elements of our government coming from THE TOP ordered the FBI to back off of the terrorists ... provided them funding through the back door, and made it WAY TOO EASY for them to "terrorize" us !?!
IS THAT NOT AN INSIDE JOB !?!?!
Come on Jlew ... give me an inch here, buddy.
btw, HIGHLY recommend picking up THE BUSH AGENDA: INVADING THE WORLD ONE ECONOMY AT A TIME by Antonia Juhasz ... the cohesion of his writing in explaining the underpinings of the "big plan" of this administration, and it's history is just jaw dropping.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
gravity
NEVER BEFORE OR AFTER HAS A STEEL BUILDING COLLAPSED CAUSE OF FIRE!!!!!!!! NEVER EVER!!!!!!!!!
were you there? did you hear an explosion? maybe something falling from 90 stories up, hitting the ground, could sound like an explosion.
EXPLOSIONS TOOK PLACE BEFORE THE PLAINS HIT....NYC FIREMAN CAN TELL YOU THAT
utter failure by the us government
BEFORE 9/11 NORAD HAD 100% ACURRACUE...ON 9/11 THEY MADE 4 MISTAKES??? AFTER 9/11 AGAIN 100%...OH YEAH DICK CHENEY WAS IN CHARGE OF NORAD THAT DAY
holy shit they are alive? were at?
YES THEY ARE ALIVE AND INNOCENT- FBI TO THIS DAY DIDNT REPAIR THERE LIST WHICH IS WRONG
from the pakistani government you mean right? is this proven? and if so what does it change?
WHAT DOES IT CHANGE??? BUSH WAS HAVING BREAKFEST ON 9/11 WITH A PAKISTANI GENERAL THAT GAVE ATTA THE MONEY??? ARE YOU BLIND???
NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research. But NIST's analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of "progressive collapse," a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down
WTC7 HADE FIRES ON ONLY 2 FLOORS AND AGAIN A STEEL BUILDING NEVER AGAIN OR BEFORE COLLAPSED OF FIRE...AND THIS WAS A 42 FLOOR BUILDING
the plane hit the ground at 545mph. what did you expect to remain intact?
HAVE YOU SEEN A COMMERCIAL CRASH????? LOOK AT PICTURES FROM
OTHER CRASHES AND THAT ONE
80 tapes? that sounds like a fun made up number. several tapes do exist. and will be released to the public in time with the freedom of information act.
NO, 80 TAPES ...
i'm on the edge of my seat. try harder to spell things correctly and stop destroying the english language.
SO SMARTASS YOU DIDNT PROVIDE ANY AWNSERS
TRY AGAIN
UNEXPLAINABLE QUESTIONS THAT POINT TO A CONSPIRACY OF SOME SORT:
1. Moussad agents seen all over New York jumping and shouting & filming themselves after the towers came down ... THIS IS FACT ... they even went on TV in Europe to talk about it ... 60 Minutes did a piece on the moving agency that they worked for ... which was a sham ... and was closed down real quick after 911 ... (watch proof of their existence and some theory here: Open Complicity)
2. SOMEONE SHORTED A WHOLE BUNCH OF AIRLINE STOCK ... hundreds of times the average (measured several ways) just days before 911 ... but then, mysteriously NEVER CASHED IN THEIR OPTIONS ... again Open Complicity
3. Why did the Secrete Service NOT PULL BUSH OUT OF THE CLASS ROOM !?! How did they KNOW he was not in danger, and why did they not at least pretend ... remember ... even after the SECOND plane hit, he STILL SAT THERE ... once more Open Complicity
4. Why did Bush and Cheney REFUSE TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH before the 911 Comission? Anyone? "National Security" takes priority over a personal guarantee of simply telling the truth? THEY WOULD NOT GO UNDER OATH, ON THE RECORD, OR WITH ANY DOCUMENTATION OF THEIR "QUESTIONING" OR WITNESSES OF ANY KIND!!!
6. Money transfered to Mohammed Atta by Pakistani ISI ... EXPLAIN THIS PLEASE !?! ISI and The Wire Transfers of 9/11 READ THIS WHOLE THING IF YOU CAN! If there is nothing to cover up, WHY ARE THEY COVERING IT UP !?!
8. Why do we have video of EVERY ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL saying things like "No ONE, that I KNOW, IN THE GOVERNMENT had ANY knowledege that they would use PLANES as MISSLES in this country" ... and yet then months later we find out THE GOVERNMENT WAS CONDUCTING THEIR VERY OWN REAL TIME LIVE "WAR GAME" USING AIRPLANES CRASHING IN TO THE PENTAGON AND THE TWIN TOWERS AT THE EXACT SAME FUCKING TIME ON THE EXACT SAME GODDAMN DAY!!?!?!open up your fucking brain, people ... Now go watch some of the footage on the London Bombings of 2005 ... THE EXACT SAME THING ... GOVERNMENT DRILL INVOLVING SAME EVENT (BOMB) AT THE SAME PLACE (EXACT SAME TUBE STATIONS) AT THE EXACT SAME FUCKING TIME ... this is a standard trick at this point to divert, confuse, and cover up! Zeitgeist The Move: WATCH AT EXACTLY 40 MINUTE MARK EVERY ONE IN THE ADMINISTRATION TELLING LIES LIES LIES ... and yet you BELIEVE BELIEVE BELIEVE.
12. UBL himself DENIES INVOLVEMENT and IMPLICATES THE US GOVERNMENT. IF HE DID IT, and HE ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT, WHY WOULD HE THEN DENY IT !?!
"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle."
"The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the U.S. system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive. "
"Then there are intelligence agencies in the U.S., which require billions of dollars worth of funds from the Congress and the government every year. This [funding issue] was not a big problem till the existence of the former Soviet Union but after that the budget of these agencies has been in danger. They needed an enemy. "
I am going to stop there, because my friend needs to borrow my computer, but i have a few more to add.
What do you say, Jlew?
You have nothing to say.
Or do you?
And please ... GIVE ME A LEGITIMATE RESPONSE ... NO ONE talks about most of this shit ... they'd rather focus on the towers themselves, but as most of you who don't belive it ... you think they fell on their own accord ... that actually HELPS THE CASE FOR GOVERNMENT COMPLICITY, because that means you think it's highly possible that all they had to do was LET TERROISTS ON PLANES ... or in other words .. FUND TERRORISTS, LEAVE THEM ALONE, and NOT BOTHER THEM AS THEY GOT ON PLANES ... bombs in the basement would just be good fun on top of all that ... icing on a bloody cake.
???
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
WTC7 HADE FIRES ON ONLY 2 FLOORS AND AGAIN A STEEL BUILDING NEVER AGAIN OR BEFORE COLLAPSED OF FIRE...AND THIS WAS A 42 FLOOR BUILDING
did you forget to mention the millions of tons of concrete and steel that fell into and around it? that might have played a role too. well that of the hundreds of bombs planted by the government.
HAVE YOU SEEN A COMMERCIAL CRASH????? LOOK AT PICTURES FROM
OTHER CRASHES AND THAT ONE
whats your point? all crashes have to look the same? let me ask you this, what did go down in that field that day? where is flight 93 and the people on board?
SO SMARTASS YOU DIDNT PROVIDE ANY AWNSERS
TRY AGAIN
I've got all the answers and I'm going to have fun ripping you apart. and use spell check, I'm tired of getting my ebonics dictionary out while reading your garbage
guess what buddy, those buildings were also hit by 767 boeing airliners. you forget to mention that.
ao what??? a plane cant make the biggest building in america collaps
in 8 seconds...
you are wrong
really? find me one.
if you wouldnt be so fucking smart you would know that
there are pictures, films and wittneses to the basment explosion
they were 100% accurate ? at what?
NORAD HAD 100% ACCURACY AT RESPONDING TO AIR THREATS...
IF YOU THINK 9/11 WAS THE FIRST TIME NORAD WAS NEEDED YOU ARE BLIND
so who flew the planes?
PEOPLE payed by the usa goverment
I thought bush was at a school reading to kids that morning. regardless, you probably dont know shit about the ISI in pakistan.
NO, YOU DONT KNOW SHIT...I SAID BUSH HAD BREAKFEST WITH A PAKISTANY GENERAL...WHICH IS COMMONLY KNOWN...
did you forget to mention the millions of tons of concrete and steel that fell into and around it? that might have played a role too. well that of the hundreds of bombs planted by the government.
MILLIONS TON OF CONCRETE DIDNT HIT BUILDING 7 ))
IF YOUR FATASS WOULD READ THE 9/11 REPORT YOU WOULD SEE THAT
THEY COLDNT EXPLAINE THAT COLLAPS...AND HEAD MINNOR FIRES ON 2 FLOORS...
whats your point? all crashes have to look the same? let me ask you this, what did go down in that field that day? where is flight 93 and the people on board?
MAN...I CANT BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE SUCKERD INTO THIS...
LET ME ASK YOU...WHERE IS THE GULF OF TONKIN INCCIDENT THAT
LEAD AMERICA INTO 58.000 DEAD IN VIETNAM???
THAT NEVER HAPPEND...
I've got all the answers and I'm going to have fun ripping you apart. and use spell check, I'm tired of getting my ebonics dictionary out while reading your garbage
YOU ARE RIPPING ME APPART? WITH WHAT? GRAVITY??? THAT IS YOUR ANSWER??? YOU DIDNT EXPLAINE A FUCKING THING...GO AND KISS YOUR BUSH POSTER...AND STOP EMBERRASING YOURSELF
MAN...I CANT BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE SUCKERD INTO THIS...
LET ME ASK YOU...WHERE IS THE GULF OF TONKIN INCCIDENT THAT
LEAD AMERICA INTO 58.000 DEAD IN VIETNAM???
THAT NEVER HAPPEND...
ok I'll ask again... what did go down in that field that day? where is flight 93 and the people on board?
YOU ARE RIPPING ME APPART? WITH WHAT? GRAVITY??? THAT IS YOUR ANSWER??? YOU DIDNT EXPLAINE A FUCKING THING...GO AND KISS YOUR BUSH POSTER...AND STOP EMBERRASING YOURSELF
EMBERRASING ? maybe i'm hoping english isnt your first language. but if it is, I promise you, I'm not the one who should feel embarrassed.
in this movie you will see pictures and interviews about the basement
explosion...
and i dont believe you could slap me...you can try boy,
but i garante that it would be the last thing you would do...
fucking bussloving asshole
Don't waste your time trying to get jlew here to watch a film or even read a book that might have some information contrary to the spoonfeed rubbish he eats up.
Aparently it needs a sexy voice over before he will consider watching it.
You could try a page with just a single picture he may just be tempted to look at that as it doesn't require to much brain power.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
and by the way i speak russian, serbian, german, english, slovenian,
croatian, french and a bit arabic
i am presume you speak only english ...
so let me tell you
Don't waste your time trying to get jlew here to watch a film or even read a book that might have some information contrary to the spoonfeed rubbish he eats up.
Aparently it needs a sexy voice over before he will consider watching it.
You could try a page with just a single picture he may just be tempted to look at that as it doesn't require to much brain power.
ya got me spiral. my brain power is low and im a sucker for those voice overs.
ya got me spiral. my brain power is low and im a sucker for those voice overs.
Dude you ask about the sexy voice overs all the time, would you like me to look up some posts?
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
I'm making fun of of the several 9/11 videos that do have sexy voice overs. and people seem to be drawn into them.
Jeff, are you telling me that watching those videos w/ the call girl voiceovers doesn't get you stiff in the pants and sell you on 9/11 theories? That is what sold me on it.
I'm making fun of of the several 9/11 videos that do have sexy voice overs. and people seem to be drawn into them.
Ah ok i'm missing somthing, as i've never heard these sexy voice overs.
Would you link me to the particular videos you speak of please.
You can see on here who watches a little too much American news and thinks that the only way to win an argument is to continually mock.
In most other parts of the world people actually come up with rational argument.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
what do any of the last 10 or so comments have to do with rationally debating 9/11 theories?
is there anyone who might like to add to my post from awhile back,... id like to learn more info and possibly get some better sources for my questions,...
Moreover, the case of the man alleged to have been the ringleader of the hijackers, Mohamed Atta, presents several anomalies. As with each of my clients, he was alleged to be a devout Muslim. The Commission claimed he was so devout as to be fanatic. As such, the use of alcohol would be strictly forbidden. However, Mr. Atta was known to frequent bars, engage in sexual activities with dancers at strip clubs, and to make numerous visits to Las Vegas where he was partying. This information, which was reported in the Wall Street Journal, among other places, was ignored by the Commission. It even claimed that there was no explanation for the trips to Las Vegas. The obvious inconsistency between the alleged behavior and the behavior typical of devout Muslims is most significant. I implore you as jurors to ask why the Commission failed to report these facts.
Further, it was reported by the Commission that Mr. Atta packed his Will, his passport, his international driver�s license, a copy of the Koran, and other personal items to take with him on a plane that was going to be used as a weapon, and hence be completely destroyed. Oddly enough, those items were somehow not loaded on Flight 11, the plane he purportedly hijacked, but instead were left as evidence to be discovered. Not only is this a bizarre coincidence, but strange indeed as Mr. Atta's name was not on the plane's passenger manifest that was made public. The Commission does not mention these odd but important facts. Are you, the jury, interested in knowing why such evidence was not considered?
I've provided a little research here and I am sure you can find other stuff related to this. Jlew, what is your opinion on the reason the highjackers were not on the flight manifest? Why did the FBI not update their list after some of the highjackers were found to be alive?
Why did the FBI admit there was no hard evidence connectin Bin Laden to 9/11? Who is Rex Tomb, because according to http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060610&articleId=2623 he said that there was no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11? Wouldn't that suspicious video tape of Usama claiming responsibility be pretty hard evidence?
Jeff, are you telling me that watching those videos w/ the call girl voiceovers doesn't get you stiff in the pants and sell you on 9/11 theories? That is what sold me on it.
I know. sometimes I get so lost in the voice I find myself sending my computer screen soft kisses.
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So, if you believe that 9/11 was an inside job, then you must also believe that EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE MEDIA is in on it too. this is quite a conspiracy. could someone please make it perfectly clear to me how the government would benefit from a disaster such as this?
conspiracies are easy to get caught up in because everyone needs to blame someone but doesnt quite know who to blame. i'm willing to listen to CTists who do their research. i try to do mine:
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=1
http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html
its simple. logical responses like this that make my job easy here on the moving train.
there is also one very simple law of human nature that has never been broken if these 9/11 conspiracies do exist.....
someone has TOO much to gain by coming forward, yet no one has done it.......im just sayin
you have one fucked up view of reality.
The fact remains the middle east has what America needs. Liquid life. The very essence of life itself. Ironically enough, it was all once alive billions of years ago.
It will all have to be imported one day soon, as America has plum run out of it.
Watch what people do in life and death situations to survive, and learn from it, because that is as real as everything gets.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Ok.
Let's look at it the other way.
WHAT, exactly, does THE MEDIA stand TOGAIN by covering this story?
The government supports their interests by continualy loosening ownership laws, ingnoring huge mergers which should be envoking anti-trust action ... these "MEDIA" corporations are actually giant multinational conglomerates that FEED ON OIL like no ones business ... in a very real sense, the current administration is actually WAGING WAR FOR THEM ... securing the oil they so badly need.
Now ... why ON EARTH would ANYONE who is aware of any of this ... why would they even consider "blowing the whistle" ...
and AGAIN...
WHAT IF THEY DID?!?!
The consequences are SO SO SO SO SO SERIOUS that you simply CAN NOT bring it up.
Who is going to sign off on the story that gets AN ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION CONVICTED OF TREASON, INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIMES and sentenced to life in prison or death?
Seriously.
(well, actually, WHOMEVER became the next president would have their arm twisted to grant PARDONS FOR ALL) ...
but can you simply not see that given the confines of "reality" , bringing 911 to the center of public attention is a political IMPOSSIBILITY ... the security of america would be in IMMEDIATE JEOPARDY, we'd face reprisal from other nations, and we would LOSE EVERY SINGLE OUNCE OF CREDIBILITY that we ever even thought we had.
Why is it so impossible to understand that their IS A "WORLD ORDER" and that most people who even have a modicum of power are intensely aware of that power structure, and would never do anything to endanger it... regardless of how important "truth" is ...
and BESIDES ... like you said, there is no "proof" ...
...although there are countless discrepancies of SERIOUS nature and a HUGE MOTIVE, formulated over a DECADE ...
between the 1992 Defense Planning Guide, and then the PNAC: Rebuilding America's Defenses -- remember "without a NEW PEARL HARBOR" ... ? ... and then again with the 2002 National Security Strategy ... ALL of which STATE THIS AGENDA, PLAIN AS DAY ...
Here are two relevant quotes ...
The first is from the 1992 Defense Planning Guide (which was coauthored by DICK Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz, who were then the Secretary of Defense & Senior Pentagon Policy Analyst - respectively) ...
Hmm?
Sounds like what we got to do because of "Iraq".
Now,
From PNAC: REBUILDING AMERICAS DEFENSES:
(look at the authors. EVERYONE in the first bush administration. ALL OF THEM)
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT WE ARE "INTERVENING" in the affairs of other nations when their best interests INTERFERE WITH OURS!
and then THIS BEAUTY:
So, what interest do we have in the gulf? Look. THEY SAID IT. "A LARGE THREAT TO US INTERESTS IN THE GULF" ...
THEY WANT THEIR FUCKING OIL ... HELL OR HIGHWATER ... they chose hell ...
Is it so hard to believe that AT THE VERY LEAST elements of our government coming from THE TOP ordered the FBI to back off of the terrorists ... provided them funding through the back door, and made it WAY TOO EASY for them to "terrorize" us !?!
IS THAT NOT AN INSIDE JOB !?!?!
Come on Jlew ... give me an inch here, buddy.
btw, HIGHLY recommend picking up THE BUSH AGENDA: INVADING THE WORLD ONE ECONOMY AT A TIME by Antonia Juhasz ... the cohesion of his writing in explaining the underpinings of the "big plan" of this administration, and it's history is just jaw dropping.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
NEVER BEFORE OR AFTER HAS A STEEL BUILDING COLLAPSED CAUSE OF FIRE!!!!!!!! NEVER EVER!!!!!!!!!
were you there? did you hear an explosion? maybe something falling from 90 stories up, hitting the ground, could sound like an explosion.
EXPLOSIONS TOOK PLACE BEFORE THE PLAINS HIT....NYC FIREMAN CAN TELL YOU THAT
utter failure by the us government
BEFORE 9/11 NORAD HAD 100% ACURRACUE...ON 9/11 THEY MADE 4 MISTAKES??? AFTER 9/11 AGAIN 100%...OH YEAH DICK CHENEY WAS IN CHARGE OF NORAD THAT DAY
holy shit they are alive? were at?
YES THEY ARE ALIVE AND INNOCENT- FBI TO THIS DAY DIDNT REPAIR THERE LIST WHICH IS WRONG
from the pakistani government you mean right? is this proven? and if so what does it change?
WHAT DOES IT CHANGE??? BUSH WAS HAVING BREAKFEST ON 9/11 WITH A PAKISTANI GENERAL THAT GAVE ATTA THE MONEY??? ARE YOU BLIND???
NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research. But NIST's analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of "progressive collapse," a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down
WTC7 HADE FIRES ON ONLY 2 FLOORS AND AGAIN A STEEL BUILDING NEVER AGAIN OR BEFORE COLLAPSED OF FIRE...AND THIS WAS A 42 FLOOR BUILDING
the plane hit the ground at 545mph. what did you expect to remain intact?
HAVE YOU SEEN A COMMERCIAL CRASH????? LOOK AT PICTURES FROM
OTHER CRASHES AND THAT ONE
80 tapes? that sounds like a fun made up number. several tapes do exist. and will be released to the public in time with the freedom of information act.
NO, 80 TAPES ...
i'm on the edge of my seat. try harder to spell things correctly and stop destroying the english language.
SO SMARTASS YOU DIDNT PROVIDE ANY AWNSERS
TRY AGAIN
1. Moussad agents seen all over New York jumping and shouting & filming themselves after the towers came down ... THIS IS FACT ... they even went on TV in Europe to talk about it ... 60 Minutes did a piece on the moving agency that they worked for ... which was a sham ... and was closed down real quick after 911 ... (watch proof of their existence and some theory here: Open Complicity)
2. SOMEONE SHORTED A WHOLE BUNCH OF AIRLINE STOCK ... hundreds of times the average (measured several ways) just days before 911 ... but then, mysteriously NEVER CASHED IN THEIR OPTIONS ... again Open Complicity
3. Why did the Secrete Service NOT PULL BUSH OUT OF THE CLASS ROOM !?! How did they KNOW he was not in danger, and why did they not at least pretend ... remember ... even after the SECOND plane hit, he STILL SAT THERE ... once more Open Complicity
4. Why did Bush and Cheney REFUSE TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH before the 911 Comission? Anyone? "National Security" takes priority over a personal guarantee of simply telling the truth? THEY WOULD NOT GO UNDER OATH, ON THE RECORD, OR WITH ANY DOCUMENTATION OF THEIR "QUESTIONING" OR WITNESSES OF ANY KIND!!!
5. How did we learn about ANY of this stuff so easily and yet fail to arrest these known terrorists? New York Times Article on Zacarias Moussaoui Trial listing countless pieces of "evidence" which suggest the US had PLENTY OF KNOWLEDGE what was going on ???
6. Money transfered to Mohammed Atta by Pakistani ISI ... EXPLAIN THIS PLEASE !?! ISI and The Wire Transfers of 9/11 READ THIS WHOLE THING IF YOU CAN! If there is nothing to cover up, WHY ARE THEY COVERING IT UP !?!
7. Who killed John O'Neill?
PBS Video About It
8. Why do we have video of EVERY ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL saying things like "No ONE, that I KNOW, IN THE GOVERNMENT had ANY knowledege that they would use PLANES as MISSLES in this country" ... and yet then months later we find out THE GOVERNMENT WAS CONDUCTING THEIR VERY OWN REAL TIME LIVE "WAR GAME" USING AIRPLANES CRASHING IN TO THE PENTAGON AND THE TWIN TOWERS AT THE EXACT SAME FUCKING TIME ON THE EXACT SAME GODDAMN DAY!!?!?! open up your fucking brain, people ... Now go watch some of the footage on the London Bombings of 2005 ... THE EXACT SAME THING ... GOVERNMENT DRILL INVOLVING SAME EVENT (BOMB) AT THE SAME PLACE (EXACT SAME TUBE STATIONS) AT THE EXACT SAME FUCKING TIME ... this is a standard trick at this point to divert, confuse, and cover up! Zeitgeist The Move: WATCH AT EXACTLY 40 MINUTE MARK EVERY ONE IN THE ADMINISTRATION TELLING LIES LIES LIES ... and yet you BELIEVE BELIEVE BELIEVE.
! ! !
9. The UBL Tape FAKE: Why does he look so different and why is it the ONLY piece of evidence we have of OSAMA !?!
Is it Fake? You want pretty pictures, huh? THat's a FAT NOSE, skinny arab boy!
10. The Planes, GUNS ON THE PLANES, And More Fishy Bullshit: Why were the planes widely reported as being between 50 & 70 percent EMPTY !?! ... why is it so hard to get an accurate count of those on board? Was there a gun on the plane? How did a gun get on the plane? Why would the FAA write a report about it. Then change (read: CENSOR) the draft report and claim it was an accident? YOU DON'T REPORT SOMEONE WAS SHOT IF THEY WERE STABBED!
11. Odigo - israeli firm in NYC - 2 employees warned of attack 2 hours prior to event !?!
Originaly Reported by NEWSBYTES, A WASHINGTON POST COMPANY! ODIGO's CEO SAYS THIS IS TRUE!
12. UBL himself DENIES INVOLVEMENT and IMPLICATES THE US GOVERNMENT. IF HE DID IT, and HE ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT, WHY WOULD HE THEN DENY IT !?!
"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle."
"The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the U.S. system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive. "
"Then there are intelligence agencies in the U.S., which require billions of dollars worth of funds from the Congress and the government every year. This [funding issue] was not a big problem till the existence of the former Soviet Union but after that the budget of these agencies has been in danger. They needed an enemy. "
WOW OSAMA ... YOU SOUND LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ! !! !
FULL INTERVIEW, YOU SHOULD READ THIS. UBL MAKES SENSE: Usama bin Laden Says the Al-Qa'idah Group
had Nothing to Do with the 11 September Attacks
I am going to stop there, because my friend needs to borrow my computer, but i have a few more to add.
What do you say, Jlew?
You have nothing to say.
Or do you?
And please ... GIVE ME A LEGITIMATE RESPONSE ... NO ONE talks about most of this shit ... they'd rather focus on the towers themselves, but as most of you who don't belive it ... you think they fell on their own accord ... that actually HELPS THE CASE FOR GOVERNMENT COMPLICITY, because that means you think it's highly possible that all they had to do was LET TERROISTS ON PLANES ... or in other words .. FUND TERRORISTS, LEAVE THEM ALONE, and NOT BOTHER THEM AS THEY GOT ON PLANES ... bombs in the basement would just be good fun on top of all that ... icing on a bloody cake.
???
If I opened it now would you not understand?
really? find me one.
they were 100% accurate ? at what?
so who flew the planes?
I thought bush was at a school reading to kids that morning. regardless, you probably dont know shit about the ISI in pakistan.
did you forget to mention the millions of tons of concrete and steel that fell into and around it? that might have played a role too. well that of the hundreds of bombs planted by the government.
whats your point? all crashes have to look the same? let me ask you this, what did go down in that field that day? where is flight 93 and the people on board?
I've got all the answers and I'm going to have fun ripping you apart. and use spell check, I'm tired of getting my ebonics dictionary out while reading your garbage
show me a picture or film of explosions going off BEFORE the planes hit.
what air threats? planes have never been hijacked before in american air space. get that? first time.
yes it did.
be careful on the personal attacks skippy. i'd hate to see you get banned. I plan on having a good time slappin you around for a bit.
ok I'll ask again... what did go down in that field that day? where is flight 93 and the people on board?
EMBERRASING ? maybe i'm hoping english isnt your first language. but if it is, I promise you, I'm not the one who should feel embarrassed.
ok here you go:
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
in this movie you will see pictures and interviews about the basement
explosion...
and i dont believe you could slap me...you can try boy,
but i garante that it would be the last thing you would do...
fucking bussloving asshole
"watch it asshole
hey bitch
if you wanna fight i can come to chicago
and the we will se ...
it aint no thing but a chiken wing"
are you kidding me?
and the we will se
what does that mean?
its been fun having you around. enjoy you ban
Don't waste your time trying to get jlew here to watch a film or even read a book that might have some information contrary to the spoonfeed rubbish he eats up.
Aparently it needs a sexy voice over before he will consider watching it.
You could try a page with just a single picture he may just be tempted to look at that as it doesn't require to much brain power.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
croatian, french and a bit arabic
i am presume you speak only english ...
so let me tell you
vojh hanuma khe mesven himos ajadha
haha
???
it must be your imagination...
why didn't you ask in a PM rather than airing your dirty laundry here...?
ya got me spiral. my brain power is low and im a sucker for those voice overs.
Dude you ask about the sexy voice overs all the time, would you like me to look up some posts?
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
I'm making fun of of the several 9/11 videos that do have sexy voice overs. and people seem to be drawn into them.
Jeff, are you telling me that watching those videos w/ the call girl voiceovers doesn't get you stiff in the pants and sell you on 9/11 theories? That is what sold me on it.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
i bet you cant even find afganistan on the map
Ah ok i'm missing somthing, as i've never heard these sexy voice overs.
Would you link me to the particular videos you speak of please.
You can see on here who watches a little too much American news and thinks that the only way to win an argument is to continually mock.
In most other parts of the world people actually come up with rational argument.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
I bet you can't spell Afghanistan
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
is there anyone who might like to add to my post from awhile back,... id like to learn more info and possibly get some better sources for my questions,...
~Ron Burgundy
http://www.loosechange911.com/
I know. sometimes I get so lost in the voice I find myself sending my computer screen soft kisses.
isn't that near California ?
yeah...ok...believe bush...it is your life