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  • Drew263
    Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    macgyver06 wrote:
    he never actually said that..about the internet...stop believeing everything you hear or read.

    You're right..he just said "I took the initiative in creating the Internet". Huge difference there...

    Also..I wonder if John Edward's new house is a good example of the two America's he's preaching about.

    oh and Tara, my bestfriend is an environmental engineer. Say's it's bunk. Nothing more than nature at work.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    He doesn't live in a "mansion" he lives in a Condo in St. Regis in San Francisco. I already proved that and posted a pic.

    By contrast, here is a mansion, this is Michael Jordan's
    http://www.aerialimages-photo.com/Mjhouse.htm
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    tara wrote:
    he may not live it, but everything he said in that movie is true, i'm an ecologist, and that shit that he spoke about is ecology 101, it's been accepted by the scientific community for decades.

    if he doesn't practise what he preaches tara, it makes him a hypocrite.


    my entire yearly energy bill doesn't even add up to $2439.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    I can't believe this is still an issue.

    Man, I put in a few hours last night investigating this claim and came to the definite conclusion that Gore does not live in a mansion. Yes he lives in a multimillion dollar Condo at St. Regis in SF Cal. He said in an interview with Time Magazine that his power sources are Green Energy [renewable].

    This is like total speculation of course. There is no cited source for this information at the TCPR web site. I couldn't find any information online about the St. Regis energy bills or the kind of power they use. So it's ultimately the TCPR's word against Gore's. The way I see it, the TCPR could just as well be a Republican think tank, as likely that Gore is a hypocrite. This supported by the fact that they blatantly lie about their affiliation with a Catholic organization.

    I'd say the Jury is definitely hung on this issue and I won't be drawing any conclusions about Gore.

    Forget it.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Drew263
    Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I can't believe this is still an issue.

    Man, I put in a few hours last night investigating this claim and came to the definite conclusion that Gore does not live in a mansion. Yes he lives in a multimillion dollar Condo at St. Regis in SF Cal. He said in an interview with Time Magazine that his power sources are Green Energy [renewable].

    This is like total speculation of course. There is no cited source for this information at the TCPR web site. I couldn't find any information online about the St. Regis energy bills or the kind of power they use. So it's ultimately the TCPR's word against Gore's. The way I see it, the TCPR could just as well be a Republican think tank, as likely that Gore is a hypocrite. This supported by the fact that they blatantly lie about their affiliation with a Catholic organization.

    I'd say the Jury is definitely hung on this issue and I won't be drawing any conclusions about Gore.

    Forget it.

    LMAO..are you serious? My God some of you will not believe anything.

    He lives in a 20-room, eight-bathroom located Belle Meade area of Nashville. Who doesn't know this?
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Drew263 wrote:
    LMAO..are you serious? My God some of you will not believe anything.

    He lives in a 20-room, eight-bathroom located Belle Meade area of Nashville. Who doesn't know this?

    Prove it.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Ahnimus wrote:
    He doesn't live in a "mansion" he lives in a Condo in St. Regis in San Francisco. I already proved that and posted a pic.

    you think al gore has only one home? think dude. think.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Hmm.....don't see too many other people traveling the world trying to help the planet by reducing pollution

    oh yeah but he has an electricity bill that's higher than mine so f-ck him

    idiots.....
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you think al gore has only one home? think dude. think.

    Have you tried looking into it? Any idea how difficult it is to get to the bottom of this?

    I got a news paper article from the tennessean from 2000 stating that he purchased a home in Belle Meade, but I have a Time article from 2005 stating he 'moved' to St. Regis in San Francisco.

    But you know that's all irrelevant, because like I said, it's about carbon emissions not about $$$$
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Prove it.

    http://maps.google.com/maps?near=Belle+Meade,+TN&q=al+gore&f=l&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=19&ll=36.147039,-86.802388&spn=0.001055,0.002411&t=k&om=1&iwloc=A
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,342
    Drew263 wrote:

    oh and Tara, my bestfriend is an environmental engineer. Say's it's bunk. Nothing more than nature at work.

    Well I hope the small majority of people in the world...and the even tremendously smaller number among the educated in this field (including your friend) keep on believing that. You guys are losing members every day!
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    farfromglorified wrote:
    http://maps.google.com/maps?near=Belle+Meade,+TN&q=al+gore&f=l&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=19&ll=36.147039,-86.802388&spn=0.001055,0.002411&t=k&om=1&iwloc=A

    Good one. I actually already proved it to myself. But it's good to see he's got the smallest house on the block, lol.

    I don't know, I mean, let's ignore the fact that we have no idea what his carbon emissions are and only know how much he pays for energy. If you had that kind of money, where would you live? I'd be living in a newspaper down by the docks, because I'm crazy like that.

    I don't think Gore every said luxury was damaging the environment. But hey I don't know. I still don't see any solid evidence that he is a huge polluter and a big hypocrite.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Good one. I actually already proved it to myself. But it's good to see he's got the smallest house on the block, lol.

    I don't know, I mean, let's ignore the fact that we have no idea what his carbon emissions are and only know how much he pays for energy.

    Huh? We know pretty much exactly what his carbon emissions are. Take 221,000 kwh (Gore's annual usage), multiply it by 60% (percentage of TVA's electricity that comes from fossil fuels) and then covert that to CO2 emissions, and you get 57,018 kilograms of CO2.

    You could also do that with his natural gas usage.
    If you had that kind of money, where would you live?

    Right where I'm living now.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Huh? We know pretty much exactly what his carbon emissions are. Take 221,000 kwh (Gore's annual usage), multiply it by 60% (percentage of TVA's electricity that comes from fossil fuels) and then covert that to CO2 emissions, and you get 57,018 kilograms of CO2.

    You could also do that with his natural gas usage.

    Right where I'm living now.

    TVA? Is that where he gets his Hydro?

    Where do you live now?

    You gotta believe, I'm not just taking your word for it. If you truly want to convince me you have the truth, show me some hard evidence.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Ahnimus wrote:
    TVA? Is that where he gets his Hydro?

    That's where he gets electricity from.
    Where do you live now?

    Chapel Hill, North Carolina
    You gotta believe, I'm not just taking your word for it. If you truly want to convince me you have the truth, show me some hard evidence.

    Hard evidence of what?

    Meh....I don't really care. You'll find it just like I did.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Sometimes in order to to get the job done you need to get your hands dirty.

    I suppose he could be doing nothing at all to make people aware internationally.

    Does anyone have any idea what kind of equipment and manpower would be necessary to carry out a campaign to the entire planet on a daily basis?

    I think $2,439 is little to nothing in this regard. Try running a home office for just a single country in one time zone and let me know....
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,342
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Sometimes in order to to get the job done you need to get your hands dirty.

    I suppose he could be doing nothing at all to make people aware internationally.

    Does anyone have any idea what kind of equipment and manpower would be necessary to carry out a campaign to the entire planet on a daily basis?

    I think $2,439 is little to nothing in this regard. Try running a home office for just a single country in one time zone and let me know....

    Yeah, I really don't give a rat's ass how much electricity, jet fuel, gasoline, paper he uses...
    The guy has opened the eyes of millions of people to the problem. Without that plane, without that ground transport, without that electicity, he would not be able to do what he did...which I think was a great thing.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Hard evidence of what?

    Meh....I don't really care. You'll find it just like I did.

    I need documents linking Gore's house to TVA and documents supporting the kind of energy the TVA distributes. I need a solid link.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I need documents linking Gore's house to TVA and documents supporting the kind of energy the TVA distributes. I need a solid link.

    Ok Woodward.

    It looks like you have some work to do.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Ok Woodward.

    It looks like you have some work to do.

    The information isn't publicly available. Apparently the information originated from NES. Whoever they are.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire

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