$2,439

monkey spanker

Thats Al Gore's monthly average gas and electric bill for one of his mansions. LOL. and you all believe all the crap he spews about global warming. even he doesn't believe it. can't you all tell when you're being duped?

PJ_Saluki

Man, he must be an Ameren customer in southern Illinois, LOL.

tara

he may not live it, but everything he said in that movie is true, i'm an ecologist, and that shit that he spoke about is ecology 101, it's been accepted by the scientific community for decades.

Ahnimus

monkey spanker wrote:

Thats Al Gore's monthly average gas and electric bill for one of his mansions. LOL. and you all believe all the crap he spews about global warming. even he doesn't believe it. can't you all tell when you're being duped?

Tell me this

What are you reading?

MasterFramer

yeah... who's asshole did you pull that out of? Rush's?

Ahnimus

Ok I tracked down the source

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367

They don't cite any sources. So, who knows where they got their information from. It's a "think tank" so basically they just make shit up. Honestly, can you call the hydro company and ask "How much does Al Gore pay per month?". I don't think you can. Did they go rummaging through his garbage? Or just make up some numbers? No pictures of his mansions? Wouldn't want to show us solar paneling I guess.

TCPR are blatant liars too.

TCPR is not affiliated with any political party, political organization or political action committee. Further, TCPR is not affiliated with any religion or religious organization.

Scholars
Dale Bails, PhD Christian Brothers University

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/page.php?page_id=33

Christian Brothers University is a Catholic institution of higher education in the tradition of the Christian Brothers

http://www.cbu.edu/

Ahnimus

time.com wrote:

Your critics on the right say that with all your jet-setting, you don't live as carbon neutral as you preach.

That's just not true. Two years ago we became a carbon-neutral family. I purchase Green Power [electricity from renewable sources], have installed new lightbulbs and clock thermostats, and I'm installing solar panels. We switched to a hybrid car. I am not recommending actions that I haven't already taken myself.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1562957,00.html

I'm just saying. Where is the hard evidence?

deadmosquito

i thought i heard or read al gore say in an interview that he was installing solar panels and other things at his residence so that his home would be totally "green" within some short amount of time. i'm sorry i don't have any sources, but does anyone else remember hearing/reading this? i don't buy that $2000+ number at all.

Ahnimus

deadmosquito wrote:

i thought i heard or read al gore say in an interview that he was installing solar panels and other things at his residence so that his home would be totally "green" within some short amount of time. i'm sorry i don't have any sources, but does anyone else remember hearing/reading this? i don't buy that $2000+ number at all.

I just posted it above. Time magazine. He also said "I purchase Green Power [electricity from renewable sources]". So regardless of what his energy bills are, they are at least renewable sources.

monkey spanker

so who's lying? the non partisan tennessee center for policy research, or the guy that created the internet? LOL. don't you hate it when your hero lets you down?

deadmosquito

Ahnimus wrote:

I just posted it above. Time magazine. He also said "I purchase Green Power [electricity from renewable sources]". So regardless of what his energy bills are, they are at least renewable sources.

ah, sorry, i didn't read the whole thread. but i thought i read it somewhere. thanks.

Ahnimus

monkey spanker wrote:

so who's lying? the non partisan tennessee center for policy research, or the guy that created the internet? LOL. don't you hate it when your hero lets you down?

I think it's pretty obvious.

The cost of a dude's energy bill is not important. The truth probably is that "Green Energy" costs more than regular energy, as that's usually the case. My adobe isn't working though :(

What is important is how much CO2 he's pumping into the atmosphere. If they can know exactly what he spends on exactly what fuels, then I'm sure they can figure out approximately how much greenhouse gases he's spittin' out. But that's not their focus, their focus is on how much he spends on his energy.

I'm also highly skeptic of how they know how much energy he purchases. Not to mention I'm skeptic of any organization like this. They are almost always politically motivated. Birds of a feather flock together, you know.

If you check out their site, this is the only issue they are pushing. Yet in their "about" section they claim that politics isn't their focus, but rather their primary goal. Sounds like an oxymoron to me. The only other issue says something like voting in a democrat will put a halt to government spending and programs like Medicare wouldn't get passed by a republican congress. Sounds a lot like they are saying vote republican.

gue_barium

Ahnimus wrote:

I think it's pretty obvious.

The cost of a dude's energy bill is not important. The truth probably is that "Green Energy" costs more than regular energy, as that's usually the case. My adobe isn't working though :(

What is important is how much CO2 he's pumping into the atmosphere. If they can know exactly what he spends on exactly what fuels, then I'm sure they can figure out approximately how much greenhouse gases he's spittin' out. But that's not their focus, their focus is on how much he spends on his energy.

I'm also highly skeptic of how they know how much energy he purchases. Not to mention I'm skeptic of any organization like this. They are almost always politically motivated. Birds of a feather flock together, you know.

If you check out their site, this is the only issue they are pushing. Yet in their "about" section they claim that politics isn't their focus, but rather their primary goal. Sounds like an oxymoron to me. The only other issue says something like voting in a democrat will put a halt to government spending and programs like Medicare wouldn't get passed by a republican congress. Sounds a lot like they are saying vote republican.

I haven't been to the zoo lately, but I do remember what monkey spankers do when logic stares them right in the face.

Ahnimus

gue_barium wrote:

I haven't been to the zoo lately, but I do remember what monkey spankers do when logic stares them right in the face.

Honestly, I was a huge skeptic of Global Warming until last week when I watched An Inconvenient Truth. My brother lent it to me and swore it was really good, I wouldn't have rented it or gone to see it otherwise. I ended up watching it thinking it was just going to be a bunch of politics and shit. It turned out to represent actual data, real facts. There was some crap about Gore mixed in, which I wasn't a big fan of. Never-the-less the facts were there, the graphs he showed were almost identical to the one's I've already seen. He provided a lot more information on it than I'd ever come across though. Clearly he's spent a lot of time on it.

Everything about this guy tells me he is serious about the environment. He could be a jackass otherwise, but I have to be skeptical of claims that he doesn't believe what he says. At this point, I'm taking his word over some "think tank" that "does and doesn't" get involved politically. If someone can produce some evidence I'd be more willing to lean that direction.

Ahnimus

Dude lives here
http://www.stregisresidences.com/index_sanfran.htm

San Francisco, California (PRWEB) December 27, 2005 -- Following news that Al Gore and wife Tipper have purchased a multimillion dollar condo at the new St. Regis highrise in San Francisco, well-heeled home buyers throughout the city are clamoring to join the neighborhood.

"Ever since people learned that Al and Tipper Gore were moving into the St. Regis, I've had three times as many inquiries about the place," says Damion Matthews, a realtor specializing in San Francisco's luxury condo market.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/12/prweb326327.htm

my2hands

Ahnimus wrote:

Dude lives here
http://www.stregisresidences.com/index_sanfran.htm

San Francisco, California (PRWEB) December 27, 2005 -- Following news that Al Gore and wife Tipper have purchased a multimillion dollar condo at the new St. Regis highrise in San Francisco, well-heeled home buyers throughout the city are clamoring to join the neighborhood.

"Ever since people learned that Al and Tipper Gore were moving into the St. Regis, I've had three times as many inquiries about the place," says Damion Matthews, a realtor specializing in San Francisco's luxury condo market.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/12/prweb326327.htm

city living is actually quite green as compared to average suburbia living.

ledvedderman

PJ_Saluki wrote:

Man, he must be an Ameren customer in southern Illinois, LOL.

lol, no shit...

ThumbingMyWay32

tara wrote:

he may not live it, but everything he said in that movie is true

Okaaaay... So the moral of the story is......?

jeffbr

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Okaaaay... So the moral of the story is......?

Do as I say, not as I do?

THC

monkey spanker wrote:

Thats Al Gore's monthly average gas and electric bill for one of his mansions. LOL. and you all believe all the crap he spews about global warming. even he doesn't believe it. can't you all tell when you're being duped?

this must mean global warming isn't happening huh? maybe he's not practicing what he preaches....(although i'm sure a mansion is probably gonna use multiple times as much electricity and gas as an apartment)....but it has nothing to do w/ Global warming.... Duh!

macgyver06

monkey spanker wrote:

so who's lying? the non partisan tennessee center for policy research, or the guy that created the internet? LOL. don't you hate it when your hero lets you down?

he never actually said that..about the internet...stop believeing everything you hear or read.