$2,439

monkey spankermonkey spanker Posts: 283
edited February 2007 in A Moving Train
Thats Al Gore's monthly average gas and electric bill for one of his mansions. LOL. and you all believe all the crap he spews about global warming. even he doesn't believe it. can't you all tell when you're being duped?
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  • PJ_SalukiPJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    Man, he must be an Ameren customer in southern Illinois, LOL.
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  • taratara Posts: 293
    he may not live it, but everything he said in that movie is true, i'm an ecologist, and that shit that he spoke about is ecology 101, it's been accepted by the scientific community for decades.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Thats Al Gore's monthly average gas and electric bill for one of his mansions. LOL. and you all believe all the crap he spews about global warming. even he doesn't believe it. can't you all tell when you're being duped?

    Tell me this

    What are you reading?
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  • yeah... who's asshole did you pull that out of? Rush's?
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Ok I tracked down the source

    http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367

    They don't cite any sources. So, who knows where they got their information from. It's a "think tank" so basically they just make shit up. Honestly, can you call the hydro company and ask "How much does Al Gore pay per month?". I don't think you can. Did they go rummaging through his garbage? Or just make up some numbers? No pictures of his mansions? Wouldn't want to show us solar paneling I guess.

    TCPR are blatant liars too.

    TCPR is not affiliated with any political party, political organization or political action committee. Further, TCPR is not affiliated with any religion or religious organization.

    Scholars
    Dale Bails, PhD Christian Brothers University

    http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/page.php?page_id=33

    Christian Brothers University is a Catholic institution of higher education in the tradition of the Christian Brothers

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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    time.com wrote:
    Your critics on the right say that with all your jet-setting, you don't live as carbon neutral as you preach.

    That's just not true. Two years ago we became a carbon-neutral family. I purchase Green Power [electricity from renewable sources], have installed new lightbulbs and clock thermostats, and I'm installing solar panels. We switched to a hybrid car. I am not recommending actions that I haven't already taken myself.
    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1562957,00.html

    I'm just saying. Where is the hard evidence?
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  • i thought i heard or read al gore say in an interview that he was installing solar panels and other things at his residence so that his home would be totally "green" within some short amount of time. i'm sorry i don't have any sources, but does anyone else remember hearing/reading this? i don't buy that $2000+ number at all.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    i thought i heard or read al gore say in an interview that he was installing solar panels and other things at his residence so that his home would be totally "green" within some short amount of time. i'm sorry i don't have any sources, but does anyone else remember hearing/reading this? i don't buy that $2000+ number at all.

    I just posted it above. Time magazine. He also said "I purchase Green Power [electricity from renewable sources]". So regardless of what his energy bills are, they are at least renewable sources.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • so who's lying? the non partisan tennessee center for policy research, or the guy that created the internet? LOL. don't you hate it when your hero lets you down?
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    I just posted it above. Time magazine. He also said "I purchase Green Power [electricity from renewable sources]". So regardless of what his energy bills are, they are at least renewable sources.


    ah, sorry, i didn't read the whole thread. but i thought i read it somewhere. thanks.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    so who's lying? the non partisan tennessee center for policy research, or the guy that created the internet? LOL. don't you hate it when your hero lets you down?

    I think it's pretty obvious.

    The cost of a dude's energy bill is not important. The truth probably is that "Green Energy" costs more than regular energy, as that's usually the case. My adobe isn't working though :(

    What is important is how much CO2 he's pumping into the atmosphere. If they can know exactly what he spends on exactly what fuels, then I'm sure they can figure out approximately how much greenhouse gases he's spittin' out. But that's not their focus, their focus is on how much he spends on his energy.

    I'm also highly skeptic of how they know how much energy he purchases. Not to mention I'm skeptic of any organization like this. They are almost always politically motivated. Birds of a feather flock together, you know.

    If you check out their site, this is the only issue they are pushing. Yet in their "about" section they claim that politics isn't their focus, but rather their primary goal. Sounds like an oxymoron to me. The only other issue says something like voting in a democrat will put a halt to government spending and programs like Medicare wouldn't get passed by a republican congress. Sounds a lot like they are saying vote republican.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I think it's pretty obvious.

    The cost of a dude's energy bill is not important. The truth probably is that "Green Energy" costs more than regular energy, as that's usually the case. My adobe isn't working though :(

    What is important is how much CO2 he's pumping into the atmosphere. If they can know exactly what he spends on exactly what fuels, then I'm sure they can figure out approximately how much greenhouse gases he's spittin' out. But that's not their focus, their focus is on how much he spends on his energy.

    I'm also highly skeptic of how they know how much energy he purchases. Not to mention I'm skeptic of any organization like this. They are almost always politically motivated. Birds of a feather flock together, you know.

    If you check out their site, this is the only issue they are pushing. Yet in their "about" section they claim that politics isn't their focus, but rather their primary goal. Sounds like an oxymoron to me. The only other issue says something like voting in a democrat will put a halt to government spending and programs like Medicare wouldn't get passed by a republican congress. Sounds a lot like they are saying vote republican.

    I haven't been to the zoo lately, but I do remember what monkey spankers do when logic stares them right in the face.

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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    gue_barium wrote:
    I haven't been to the zoo lately, but I do remember what monkey spankers do when logic stares them right in the face.

    Honestly, I was a huge skeptic of Global Warming until last week when I watched An Inconvenient Truth. My brother lent it to me and swore it was really good, I wouldn't have rented it or gone to see it otherwise. I ended up watching it thinking it was just going to be a bunch of politics and shit. It turned out to represent actual data, real facts. There was some crap about Gore mixed in, which I wasn't a big fan of. Never-the-less the facts were there, the graphs he showed were almost identical to the one's I've already seen. He provided a lot more information on it than I'd ever come across though. Clearly he's spent a lot of time on it.

    Everything about this guy tells me he is serious about the environment. He could be a jackass otherwise, but I have to be skeptical of claims that he doesn't believe what he says. At this point, I'm taking his word over some "think tank" that "does and doesn't" get involved politically. If someone can produce some evidence I'd be more willing to lean that direction.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Dude lives here
    http://www.stregisresidences.com/index_sanfran.htm

    San Francisco, California (PRWEB) December 27, 2005 -- Following news that Al Gore and wife Tipper have purchased a multimillion dollar condo at the new St. Regis highrise in San Francisco, well-heeled home buyers throughout the city are clamoring to join the neighborhood.

    "Ever since people learned that Al and Tipper Gore were moving into the St. Regis, I've had three times as many inquiries about the place," says Damion Matthews, a realtor specializing in San Francisco's luxury condo market.
    http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/12/prweb326327.htm
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Dude lives here
    http://www.stregisresidences.com/index_sanfran.htm

    San Francisco, California (PRWEB) December 27, 2005 -- Following news that Al Gore and wife Tipper have purchased a multimillion dollar condo at the new St. Regis highrise in San Francisco, well-heeled home buyers throughout the city are clamoring to join the neighborhood.

    "Ever since people learned that Al and Tipper Gore were moving into the St. Regis, I've had three times as many inquiries about the place," says Damion Matthews, a realtor specializing in San Francisco's luxury condo market.
    http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/12/prweb326327.htm


    city living is actually quite green as compared to average suburbia living.
  • PJ_Saluki wrote:
    Man, he must be an Ameren customer in southern Illinois, LOL.

    lol, no shit...
  • tara wrote:
    he may not live it, but everything he said in that movie is true

    Okaaaay... So the moral of the story is......?
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Okaaaay... So the moral of the story is......?

    Do as I say, not as I do?
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  • THCTHC Posts: 525
    Thats Al Gore's monthly average gas and electric bill for one of his mansions. LOL. and you all believe all the crap he spews about global warming. even he doesn't believe it. can't you all tell when you're being duped?


    this must mean global warming isn't happening huh? maybe he's not practicing what he preaches....(although i'm sure a mansion is probably gonna use multiple times as much electricity and gas as an apartment)....but it has nothing to do w/ Global warming.... Duh!
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    so who's lying? the non partisan tennessee center for policy research, or the guy that created the internet? LOL. don't you hate it when your hero lets you down?

    he never actually said that..about the internet...stop believeing everything you hear or read.
  • Drew263Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    macgyver06 wrote:
    he never actually said that..about the internet...stop believeing everything you hear or read.

    You're right..he just said "I took the initiative in creating the Internet". Huge difference there...

    Also..I wonder if John Edward's new house is a good example of the two America's he's preaching about.

    oh and Tara, my bestfriend is an environmental engineer. Say's it's bunk. Nothing more than nature at work.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    He doesn't live in a "mansion" he lives in a Condo in St. Regis in San Francisco. I already proved that and posted a pic.

    By contrast, here is a mansion, this is Michael Jordan's
    http://www.aerialimages-photo.com/Mjhouse.htm
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    tara wrote:
    he may not live it, but everything he said in that movie is true, i'm an ecologist, and that shit that he spoke about is ecology 101, it's been accepted by the scientific community for decades.

    if he doesn't practise what he preaches tara, it makes him a hypocrite.


    my entire yearly energy bill doesn't even add up to $2439.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    I can't believe this is still an issue.

    Man, I put in a few hours last night investigating this claim and came to the definite conclusion that Gore does not live in a mansion. Yes he lives in a multimillion dollar Condo at St. Regis in SF Cal. He said in an interview with Time Magazine that his power sources are Green Energy [renewable].

    This is like total speculation of course. There is no cited source for this information at the TCPR web site. I couldn't find any information online about the St. Regis energy bills or the kind of power they use. So it's ultimately the TCPR's word against Gore's. The way I see it, the TCPR could just as well be a Republican think tank, as likely that Gore is a hypocrite. This supported by the fact that they blatantly lie about their affiliation with a Catholic organization.

    I'd say the Jury is definitely hung on this issue and I won't be drawing any conclusions about Gore.

    Forget it.
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  • Drew263Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I can't believe this is still an issue.

    Man, I put in a few hours last night investigating this claim and came to the definite conclusion that Gore does not live in a mansion. Yes he lives in a multimillion dollar Condo at St. Regis in SF Cal. He said in an interview with Time Magazine that his power sources are Green Energy [renewable].

    This is like total speculation of course. There is no cited source for this information at the TCPR web site. I couldn't find any information online about the St. Regis energy bills or the kind of power they use. So it's ultimately the TCPR's word against Gore's. The way I see it, the TCPR could just as well be a Republican think tank, as likely that Gore is a hypocrite. This supported by the fact that they blatantly lie about their affiliation with a Catholic organization.

    I'd say the Jury is definitely hung on this issue and I won't be drawing any conclusions about Gore.

    Forget it.

    LMAO..are you serious? My God some of you will not believe anything.

    He lives in a 20-room, eight-bathroom located Belle Meade area of Nashville. Who doesn't know this?
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Drew263 wrote:
    LMAO..are you serious? My God some of you will not believe anything.

    He lives in a 20-room, eight-bathroom located Belle Meade area of Nashville. Who doesn't know this?

    Prove it.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Ahnimus wrote:
    He doesn't live in a "mansion" he lives in a Condo in St. Regis in San Francisco. I already proved that and posted a pic.

    you think al gore has only one home? think dude. think.
  • Hmm.....don't see too many other people traveling the world trying to help the planet by reducing pollution

    oh yeah but he has an electricity bill that's higher than mine so f-ck him

    idiots.....
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you think al gore has only one home? think dude. think.

    Have you tried looking into it? Any idea how difficult it is to get to the bottom of this?

    I got a news paper article from the tennessean from 2000 stating that he purchased a home in Belle Meade, but I have a Time article from 2005 stating he 'moved' to St. Regis in San Francisco.

    But you know that's all irrelevant, because like I said, it's about carbon emissions not about $$$$
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