Is George W. Bush The "GrandSon of the Beast", Aleister Crowley?

lol....

I read about this a few months ago

small world apparently...

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

This is weird shit.
If anyone cares to put down their perceived "sanity" for a minute and embrace the notion that the elite of this world actually DO practice weird occultic rituals, and DO worship the maintenance of close blood relations (blood lines) and so forth ... then the following is certainly an odd possibility.

George W. Bush May Be The Grandson of Aleister Crowley

Photos of Barbara Bush & Aleister Crowley

Weird?
I dunno.
I heard about this from Freeman, who was on the AJ Show last friday.
Freeman knows a SHIT TON about freemasonry, occultism, numerology, kabalism, and all sorts of fucked up shit. I mean the guy is WELL READ.

Anyhow.
Certainly sounds plausible, if not totaly unsubstantiated.

I think a huge problem is that people don't understand the occult.

I can certainly understand empowered people banding together in secret societies....all this is independent of the 666-bloodline-assertion, mind you.

The power these guys hold is not the power they appear to hold.

And anyone can tap this power, too.

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

I know a bit about occult magik.
Not intimately, but via second hand accounts.

My best friend in highschool was a fucking genius.
He literally got a 1600 on the SAT.
He was pompous, arrogant, condescending, offputting, socialy ackward, and extremely literate. The guy just devoured everything from Roman history and Greek literature, on to philosophy, psychology, and more.

In short, he was a perfect candidate for ritualistic magik.
He started to get obsessed with it actually.
he read Aleisters books, he read the Illuminatus trillogy, and he practiced.

Being a mere "mortal" myself ... someone with only a slightly above average SAT score and apparent intelligence, i just ignored it.

But when i did ask questions, it became pretty clear what occult "magik" is really all about.

ITS ABOUT MANIPULATION.
That what i got out of it anyhow.
You use "powers" to cast "spells" on people.
And by "spells" i mean, you weave illusions over them by various means to render them within your control.

It is no WONDER the elite are obsessed with this shit.
Its all about fucking your mind in any way possible to get you to submit.

I remember he used to try his "magik" on the street. If we went to starbucks (where i worked) he would try it on the employees. He would try to weasle his way to a free cup of coffee, or in to a girls pants, or win an argument that he knew was false, just to see if he could get someone to admit defeat (even though they were right).

That is what i came to understand as "magik", from my misguided-genius amigo.

dude, I regularly interact with the occult. Do I seem manipulative? Dark? Like the type to cast spells?


Again, with 14 years experience in this stuff, I say people looking at it from the outside don't understand it. At the same time, yes, also people who learn to use natural potentials all around us, who are not in a good place, can abuse this potential.

All is accepted within natural law...people merely must accept the consequences of their actions........they cannot escape universal law.



And again, I completely understand how those who have learned to wield power learn to stay among other like-minded ones.

You yourself know the abuse and degradation mediocre minds heap on great Spirits.

Keep in mind, that as I refer to the empowered, I know perfectly well that one irresponsible step, like with George Bush, for example, is absolutely dealt with universally. When one TRULY understands the occult, one understands the principles and dynamics beyond mere and fallible humans. And one greatly reveres them knowing they are always in 'control'. Humans never ever control nature...they can only work WITH universal law.

Just like someone who on this board acts irresponsible, they will reap what they sow, the same goes for 'the elite'. The problems comes in with the scripts we assign to these happenstances, when we don't understand the big picture.

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

No.
But you also don't seem like the type who greatly reveres Aleister Crowley and "his school" of occultism.

I have no doubt that just like any universal force, there is an equal and "opposite" counterpart.

I'm just telling you what i was told by someone who studied from Crowley's writings directly. He told me it was 10% about ritual and 90% about manipulating people through coercive, subtle, and often times subliminal or subconscious means.

I do all of the above all the time, only without the slant of it being negative....to manipulate, for example, is to mold. And I fully understand that if I infringe on the best interests or on the will of others, I undermine my own self and hold myself back.

Still....if people give up their consciousness and free-will, which they do all the time as you know, if I am empowered and focused on the greater good, I have no qualms about molding (manipulating) a 'better' world. People unconsciously contract with me all the time by their choices/actions, to willingly go along....

When we all attune to our potential, and the world around us, we'll all do this to the point of self-actualization, and in harmony.

The negative consequences teach us all the time....again, like those who are derogatory, manipulative and abusive on this board...

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Excuse me,
but this is bullshit.

Just because certain members of this forum don't stick to the same shit that is printed in a college history book, they are somehow degrading the forum?

How about continuing to be stuck in a fake paradigm decades after The Who wrote the tune "Won't Get Fooled Again".

Hahah.
Boy were they fucking off the mark.
The American public will be fooled again, and again, and again, and again, apparently.

Meet the new boss.

:rolleyes:

There really is no difference between being spoonfed by the mass media and spoonfed by crackpot conspiracy theorists with way to much time on their hands. Being fed from a different bowl is all. Maybe some folks "won't be fooled again" by guys who balance glass bottles on their doorknobs and wire their apartments to burn in case the proverbial "they" should happen to find them.

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

See.
I don't think these people understand, accept, or follow that assertion.

Unless possibly they rationalize that what they are doing is in the interest of the greater good of humanity in the longview. I fully believe this is the case, but I disagree with them. And i think they are being dishonest with themselves.

Certainly you don't deny that there are those who abuse "the occult".
What is it you think they are doing in there at Bohemian Grove, worshiping that weird homaphroditic owl god\goddess statue, all dressed in pagan robes, with staffs of light in hand?

I think I basically agree with you that some key power people are acting for their own selfish reasons. I believe they DO tell themselves it's for the good of the people who "don't know better"...which is an extension of our patriarchal imbalanced ways. The fact is, the masses continue on with mediocrity and small-minded pursuits...which I can respect and understand.

For example, all the global stuff....from the occult standpoint, we just ARE evolving to an open world. And many...such as the North American leaders know this, and are merely aligning...feeling that warm fuzzy feeling, "helping" us blind folk along...while opportunistically grabbing all the win-win they can get.

The consequences they reap are ones I personally could not handle. My guess is you could not either.... They live my nightmare life.

So yes, humanitarian focused people like myself, yourself, or Roland, for example, seek to do the same thing in terms of awakening peole to their own power....it remains the same thing, imo.


The occult itself is not negative at all. It's merely hidden, due to the ignorance of the average person, and the witchhunt-lynch-mob-Christ-killing approach the average blind person holds......as you must well know from experience.....

As for rituals...if they are empowering to individuals, I'm for it. Symbolism has a huge power on our subconscious. I use the power of it all the time, in marshalling my own forces, and work to do so in influencing others....and the mental health field, and I see myself doing this on some pretty fundamental levels over time. Words themselves are symbols...I see you using them quite consciously and effectively for your own purposes, too.....